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Now i know you've probably seen all of these posts encouraging all sorts of different weapons. this is not one of those
i just want to look at generic, non-overpowered, weapons that would have multiple uses other than being "a cool thing to add"
1. (removed)
2. a knife, a combat/hunting tool. a iron knife would do 1 heart damage and this could be two things a throwing knife and a easy to make weapon. a stick and a iron ingot simple does more damage than punching and can be thrown so its not completly underpowered.
3. a spear a combat/hunting tool, a iron spear would do 2 hearts damage and is able to be thrown this was a more common weapon than a sword at the time it was also a popular weapon to be crafted out of raw materials which is minecraft's style of gameplay (or at least one of them)
please tell me any weapons you think would fit in this list and i already know how these items would be made (but a pic of the recipe(s) would be nice as well.
again please remember i dont want a overpowered death cannon as a suggestion just a resonable evenly powered weapon or tool
I like the idea of the spear and the knife, but they are already included in Balkon's weaponmod. Sorry, but it's the truth.
Also, try the mine and blade: battlegear mod.
"There's a mod for that," is a warnable offense. The suggestion is for vanilla. To the OP:
The flintlock is too limited in use and underpowered, and making it more useful would make it overpowered. The reason is we already have bows, which are powerful enough, so the flintlock has no purpose, and is only weaker, less reliable, and more expensive bow. Buffing it to be used would make it overpowered, because it would have to be preferable to bows in many situations.
Spears would have the same use as flintlocks, being throwable, and more useful because they're cheaper and can be used in melee for more range than swords. This makes spears useful.
Knives would only be useful as thrown weapons, and they would have to be instantly thrown to be useful.
Personally, I think additional weapons are best left to mods; adding more weapon tiers to vanilla Minecraft could cause a lot of balance and obsolescence issues.
if there is any kind of firearm it could be a musket that shoots fire charges.
I think that knives should be darts instead. but without added close combat things.
one thing that could be done is a shield and dagger, which would hardly hit harder than punching, but the sheild would absorb all of the damage from a hit when you block, as opposed to halving it like a sword.
note the shield and dagger idea is one item, not two.
The moment I saw the first sentence, "Now i know you've probably seen all of these posts encouraging all sorts of different weapons. this is not one of those" I was like okay good... But then I saw "pistol" I was like :o, no ...but then I read a little bit more and I added this instead of trolling you.
You did a good job making not so over powered like th majority of these topics. I how ever in my opinion don't think th pistols go well in minecarft. Maybe things like the knife. It would do minimum damage and would be thrown a short distance. I think th knife has the best possibility out of all the other weapons.
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Thank you for your responses.
i had feared the pistol would fail, that weapon was my favorite but i think your right and as a FYI the pistol was intended to for close combat (being a ranged weapon and all). so you could deal a good amount of damage in a instant.
otherwise the knife would be intended for upgrading your damage a little, but mostly for throwing purposes.
the spear was intended to be a low cost weapon that would be used when in battle. you would be charging then throwing the spear then switching to a sword and slashing
Vanilla MineCraft shouldn't add more weapons in my opinion because the types of weapons allowed is directly related to the type of game played. Meaning, different weapon (and other items) can turn a generic MC world into something specific. An example would be if you added laser guns and force fields - that makes it sort of a sci-fi game. Maybe some people like that, but probably a lot of people would not.
Better to keep vanilla as plain as possible (hence the term vanilla) and let the mods handle the oddities.
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i realize this
a spear was key to survival and so was (and is) a knife
this is why i started my own topic on frequently discussed items, because a plain spear and knife doesnt enable a theme but survival and minecraft may be plain but it does have a survival mode and this is why these 2 items would not effect the game other than a enhanced experience.
they have had knives 5000 years ago and are still being made so its hard to determine a theme with this weapon
in the modern day the spear has grown old and is not used anymore but that is because of modern tech. before cars guns and combat knives we had regular knives spears swords bow and arrows and other weapons. this weapon fits minecraft best because it was a easy weapon to craft out of raw materials
these 2 weapons does not give vanilla minecraft any "sprinkles" there just as generic for examble a knife is a category you would see when buying a folder or a multi-tool, but it does not mean a specific knife. the same goes with a spear there are pikes javelins and others but a spear or knife only represents a type of weapon like a sword or a bow or even an axe.
sorry if i sound defensive i just want these items in the game and in order for me to get good attention from jeb ill need to argue my position and why it would fit. if they do ruin plain vanilla (which they dont) ill stick with the balkons weapons mod. i am going to remove the flintlock pistol eventuallly.
The moment I saw the first sentence, "Now i know you've probably seen all of these posts encouraging all sorts of different weapons. this is not one of those" I was like okay good... But then I saw "pistol" I was like , no ...but then I read a little bit more and I added this instead of trolling you.
You did a good job making not so over powered like th majority of these topics. I how ever in my opinion don't think th pistols go well in minecarft. Maybe things like the knife. It would do minimum damage and would be thrown a short distance. I think th knife has the best possibility out of all the other weapons.
thank you for withholding your inner troll
a greatsword? i have an extra space, ill think about it. if anyone who likes or dislikes this idea tell me but explain.
please remember that a greatsword is a more specific sword CATEGORY (category not weapon) but the difference is there bigger stronger but slower and they require two hands.
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I had a question, if a battle axe type were to be added, what kind would it be?
1. generic battle axe
2. tomahawk (a tomahawk is not just a throwing axe it was the type of battle axe that the Indian's used. basically a one-sided battle axe)
3. hand-axe
please tell me if you would want the tomahawk or hand-axe throwable
i just want to look at generic, non-overpowered, weapons that would have multiple uses other than being "a cool thing to add"
1. (removed)
2. a knife, a combat/hunting tool. a iron knife would do 1 heart damage and this could be two things a throwing knife and a easy to make weapon. a stick and a iron ingot simple does more damage than punching and can be thrown so its not completly underpowered.
3. a spear a combat/hunting tool, a iron spear would do 2 hearts damage and is able to be thrown this was a more common weapon than a sword at the time it was also a popular weapon to be crafted out of raw materials which is minecraft's style of gameplay (or at least one of them)
please tell me any weapons you think would fit in this list and i already know how these items would be made (but a pic of the recipe(s) would be nice as well.
again please remember i dont want a overpowered death cannon as a suggestion just a resonable evenly powered weapon or tool
Also, try the mine and blade: battlegear mod.
"There's a mod for that," is a warnable offense. The suggestion is for vanilla. To the OP:
The flintlock is too limited in use and underpowered, and making it more useful would make it overpowered. The reason is we already have bows, which are powerful enough, so the flintlock has no purpose, and is only weaker, less reliable, and more expensive bow. Buffing it to be used would make it overpowered, because it would have to be preferable to bows in many situations.
Spears would have the same use as flintlocks, being throwable, and more useful because they're cheaper and can be used in melee for more range than swords. This makes spears useful.
Knives would only be useful as thrown weapons, and they would have to be instantly thrown to be useful.
they still do 1 heart of damage, but they swing must faster than a sword.
the spear can do less damage, but it can have more range than a sword.
Heres a weapon Idea : D
The Great Sword
it does more damage than the of the sword same tier that it's made off
it's swing is much slower than a sword
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I think that knives should be darts instead. but without added close combat things.
one thing that could be done is a shield and dagger, which would hardly hit harder than punching, but the sheild would absorb all of the damage from a hit when you block, as opposed to halving it like a sword.
note the shield and dagger idea is one item, not two.
You did a good job making not so over powered like th majority of these topics. I how ever in my opinion don't think th pistols go well in minecarft. Maybe things like the knife. It would do minimum damage and would be thrown a short distance. I think th knife has the best possibility out of all the other weapons.
i had feared the pistol would fail, that weapon was my favorite but i think your right and as a FYI the pistol was intended to for close combat (being a ranged weapon and all). so you could deal a good amount of damage in a instant.
otherwise the knife would be intended for upgrading your damage a little, but mostly for throwing purposes.
the spear was intended to be a low cost weapon that would be used when in battle. you would be charging then throwing the spear then switching to a sword and slashing
i appreciate the feedback thanks
Better to keep vanilla as plain as possible (hence the term vanilla) and let the mods handle the oddities.
a spear was key to survival and so was (and is) a knife
this is why i started my own topic on frequently discussed items, because a plain spear and knife doesnt enable a theme but survival and minecraft may be plain but it does have a survival mode and this is why these 2 items would not effect the game other than a enhanced experience.
they have had knives 5000 years ago and are still being made so its hard to determine a theme with this weapon
in the modern day the spear has grown old and is not used anymore but that is because of modern tech. before cars guns and combat knives we had regular knives spears swords bow and arrows and other weapons. this weapon fits minecraft best because it was a easy weapon to craft out of raw materials
these 2 weapons does not give vanilla minecraft any "sprinkles" there just as generic for examble a knife is a category you would see when buying a folder or a multi-tool, but it does not mean a specific knife. the same goes with a spear there are pikes javelins and others but a spear or knife only represents a type of weapon like a sword or a bow or even an axe.
sorry if i sound defensive i just want these items in the game and in order for me to get good attention from jeb ill need to argue my position and why it would fit. if they do ruin plain vanilla (which they dont) ill stick with the balkons weapons mod. i am going to remove the flintlock pistol eventuallly.
thank you for withholding your inner troll
a greatsword? i have an extra space, ill think about it. if anyone who likes or dislikes this idea tell me but explain.
please remember that a greatsword is a more specific sword CATEGORY (category not weapon) but the difference is there bigger stronger but slower and they require two hands.
1. generic battle axe
2. tomahawk (a tomahawk is not just a throwing axe it was the type of battle axe that the Indian's used. basically a one-sided battle axe)
3. hand-axe
please tell me if you would want the tomahawk or hand-axe throwable
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SUPPORT THEM!!!!! (also if your a new please click on the picture)