Terrain Seeds Are Useless! And Here's Why (Poll Added)
Poll: Do you agree that Mojang should improve the current MC Terrain G
Do you agree that Mojang should improve the current MC Terrain G - Single Choice
- Not sure (I'm on the fence) 11.3%
- Disagree (No Support) 12.5%
- Agree (I Support) 76.2%
Ended May 15, 2014
1. More interesting terrain; More breathtaking and jaw dropping land masses to appear more often then they currently do
2. We want extreme mountains and overhangs to have the possibility to neatly generate randomly in all biomes. We want neat, uniform, and NICE land masses to appear RANDOMLY in all biomes equally. (obviously excluding plains and swamps as well, of course)
3. The majority of cave systems and Mineshafts actually come to an end eventually, and appear less often. Seemingly endless caves should be a nice find.
WHAT WE DO NOT WANT:
4. We do not want chewed up and spit out eyesore terrain spammed all over the place - we want it to appear randomly and spaced apart to please players who like the wild terrain generations and the ones who like the flat lands for building.
5. We do not want the Terrain Generator from 1.7
WHEN WE WANT IT:
As soon as Mojang can get around to it!
Sure there are some interesting land formations in this one, (well in seeds 1 and 2 at least) but look at the rest of the surrounding land. How's it look? Flat? Plain? ordinary? Dull? .. Yup!
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I'm also pretty sure you are wrong that seeds are only shared because of "structure generation", but hey, you want a nostalgia trip, so I'll just leave it at that.
Just waiting for Forge to officially release for 1.13.x to remove unneeded mobs from 1.13, like Phantoms, from the game because, in my gameplay based opinion, they add nothing of value to the game.
Fun fact: Clicking a bed every 30 minutes doesn't make you a better player, it makes you one who clicks a bed every 30 minutes. Wouldn't you rather just mod them out of the game completely?
So I'm guessing you didn't read the thread all the way through? And as I said - feel free to prove me wrong with pictures, images, whatever it may be and yet you reply with your opinionated post while at the same time failing to present any evidence to prove your cause. why is that?
Seeds are shared: they do provide players with the ability to share a neat map they found with one another but 9 out of 10 times since 1.8 a seed is shared for biomes, structures, or some other pointless reason. It's never for the land structures like it was before 1.8. This isn't a nostalgic thing this is a wanting a new, diverse, and wilder terrain generator with 1.2.5.
Before creating your pointless posts, try reading the original post.
And the reason seeds would be considered pointless is because every map in minecraft today is pretty much the exact same thing. They are repetitive, dull, flat, boring. It's the same nonsense no matter what kind of map you load and therefore: seeds are pointless. millions of different seeds: same map. Seems drastic but: read the original post.
We need more diversity
I agree 100% a couple of new biomes would be nice - but not too much as I wouldn't want them to over do it. As for the ores, I personally feel they are a little over abundant. Iron, coal, and gold specifically are a little too common for my liking. Or maybe it's just that they've always been like this and no one's really noticed until the 1.8 update as after that update everyone started mining because exploring was no longer a possibility... Well I suppose it is a possibility, just a very boring and dull one.
1.8 has turned almost every cave into a massive and endless underground swiss-cheese complex. Yes, they are really awesome to explore, but I miss exploring FOR caves. Now it's like once you find a cave, you're set for life. It's like the terrain was focused on forcefully expanding the underground world.
Seeds are now also useless in determining cave sizes. In 1.7 and before, we'd get small, medium, large, and seemingly endless caves. Now we're forced to explore caves in only one size -- seemingly endless.
Every small hole you find turns into 2 caves, which turns into 4 caves, and then there's entrances off in every direction and it gets damn annoying.
ever since biomes appeared minecraft got worse
now i have to keep spawning worlds to get a decent place to build, and then usually its still boring
there isnt a reason to explore the world and the mountains are nothing
(i also liked when pumpkins were more of a trophy and limited and what u use them for now is stupid)
Yup! This is the problem it seems that ever since 1.8 and later the cave systems are just over abundant and endless. It no longer feels rewarding to stumble upon a cave ... and to be quite frank I kind of miss the feeling of being disappointed when I find a dead end cave after searching for fifteen minutes! I know that sounds silly, but that's just one of the many things that used to make Minecraft.. Minecraft. That's why I felt the need to create this thread. Thank you for your support!
Exactly. With the new terrain it is easy to build homes almost anywhere, but what fun is building a home when you can't even watch the sunset between two mountainous terrains off in the distance across a vast wide open ocean?
I'd like to see this seed....
As would I, post please?
so pretty much you are LEGIT
ALSO i need pics to make it 100% legit XD
bring back the old world generator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Head to coords
I'm pretty sure that you will not spawn right by those coords like I did.
You will know you are at the right place when you see a waterfall coming from the side of one of the mountains
I will try to post some pics. The videos both provide some pretty accurate pictures you may want to check those out.
I'm glad to hear that you support us - but we don't necessarily want the old generator back per se. I guess you could say we more or less just want some tweaks made to the current generator to make the land more diverse and unpredictable. A lot like the old generator, but not 110% person exactly like it ;P
Thank you I'll be sure to go check it out!
I'll start working on one now and send you a private message to come check it out!
This is what I found:
If this is the spot you are talking about: these are extreme hills and extremely common in the current map gen. And they are just what their name would suggest: extreme hills. Nothing more. They've taken the place of marvelous mountains. This is the best that we have to work with in the modern map gen when we used to have this: