I am confused. To whom are suggestions directed towards?
I assumed potential implementers. The advice here is sufficient for that. Are suggestion posted the "selling an idea" to potential implementers?
In larger view, Suggestions are proposals of features (to some in the business they are called ECPs or Engineering Change Proposals). The suggester is "selling an idea" both to the public, but also to potential developers/implementers. As a potential developer (modder), or suggester, you sell the idea with brevity.
In the business world "Professional proposal writing" is a hard disciplined effort. What professionals call "Winning proposals" have common characteristics, most of which are covered herein in the suggestion advice.
Other than a recommendation for more graphics, it's OK enough.
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I am confused. To whom are suggestions directed towards?
I assumed potential implementers. The advice here is sufficient for that. Are suggestion posted the "selling an idea" to potential implementers?
In larger view, Suggestions are proposals of features (to some in the business they are called ECPs or Engineering Change Proposals). The suggester is "selling an idea" both the public and potential developers.
This guide is targeted towards the individual engineering the suggestion, and these are things that will help in the presentation of the idea.
Also, when you mentioned moddingbin your post, I feel the need to clarify that this forum is intended for additions to the vanilla game, instead of mods.
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Also take a look at this guide if you are requesting builders for a server/project.
Please note, if I deny a suggestion because it is already possible, then I mean it is already possible withing 10 command blocks (That do not spawn other command blocks) or up to 5 creations (Command blocks that spawn other command blocks) to make your suggestion.
If I critique your suggestion I am not hating on you. Learn the difference.
This guide is targeted towards the individual engineering the suggestion, and these are things that will help in the presentation of the idea.
Also, when you mentioned moddingbin your post, I feel the need to clarify that this forum is intended for additions to the vanilla game, instead of mods.
I had accepted and understood that the guide is intended toward the writer of the suggestion. The audience the suggester is "selling the idea" to is potential implementers. "Consider the audience" is important.
This forum is a venue of "selling ideas" to Microsoft/Mojang and/or public and/or possibly others.
On vanilla, the idea is intended for vanilla minecraft, but the critiques aren't limited to that for explanation or examples.
I mentioned modding in my post because I developed a mod to extend someone else's (actually a number of them) vanilla suggestion along lines I was already thinking of.
"That's in a mod or you created a mod" to sell an idea (multi-line command blocks) is still valid communication. I don't find coding hard as a means of communication. Nor does it invalidate the initial suggestion ('We want that'). Whether it's here or not, the critique is not limited to text response. Any critic may also implement the potential idea in a different way (add a command for running from a file in a catalog) and recommend features/benefits in a different way (rotation, byline and commandblock mode), because doing it the way asked for meant breaking the commandblock in existing worlds. You also may mod in as a critique. If it bothers someone that I may code as a response, tough.
I extended their concept because I wanted componentized map building for cities and places of interest that are sharable using 99% simple vanilla minecraft commands. Well within doability. Reasonable within Vanilla minecraft.
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I would suggest that whoever make this a limited moderated forum by invite only.
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For PYNtA, Titles that does not relate to the Idea.
Slightly covered in the Vague Titles, I know some people who does them. If you click on what seems to be the greatest suggestion and is bad, you have a view there! It's called click bait. Just... don't.
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I like Video games, such as Pokemon and animal crossing. My avatar is Villager, possible reference to the Akia Village?
Stuff I support:
You still made the claim that me putting hated suggestions in the guide made them hated. Which would not be possible because that section hasn't even been out long enough to make that kind of an impact. Even some of what's mentioned in the guide has me going "okay, not ALL of these kind of suggestions are bad" because some of the inferior ones can still be made superior by the right suggesters. A good deal of them still reach the front page with over 200 posts. Okay, this seems like a nice reply, overall, but I told you that I meant to say something else instead of "This wasn't hated on, until put into the guide."
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
Moderator/ thread owner. The comments on the suggestion advice thread in this forum should be moderated IMHO. It's not for everybody to comment on and the noise detracts from the initial posting. Commentary should be separately threaded off the sticky. The level and tone of recent comments do not add to the sticky posting for the suggestion.
While I do not agree with everything, the suggestion advice is useful. Cleaning the sticky is very useful, so discussion of issues with the advice should be separately threaded.
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Oh, Theriasis, to avoid confusion, you should mention in the OP that people are not required to follow every step/example in here. I've personally seen a ton of suggestions that are well-made and articulate and still violate a few of the principles outlined here.
No one's perfect, and I'm sure you'd want to encourage others to understand that you don't demand perfection; but at least a passable attempt toward the lofty goal. That is possibly all you'd need to temper the overwhelming sense of discouragement and viewed negativity people have toward this thread.
I would not concur. What convinces you that using images and examples to persuade and communicate doesn't work and is mostly pointless? Winning the competition of a proposal-suggestion should not ignore visualization and examples.
No, it's not a requirement, but is the suggestion advice to "DO THIS" to make your suggestions heard, more than a "DON'T DO THIS" ? For a developer, It depends on how well one might wish to convince for support of an idea, or it may be necessary to reduce the complexity of the problem. Who is the target audience the suggested idea is selling to? Probably developers.
Who is the someone who will ask in a blur of text? Pictures draw the eye and interest.
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This is an overly complex way to explain something I already know. I am a designer; I am aware of the value of images and examples. There's two things about the Minecraft Forums, though, that make me think it's not worth the effort outside of what's absolutely necessary. One, developers will probably never see these suggestions. They simply don't look here. They look on Reddit more often than not. These suggestions are to test people's reactions to them. Two, we can assume everyone already understands the game. There is a certain amount of underlying assumptions that we can rely on. We don't need an example or image where it's not helpful (more likely an example is helpful than an image). The only places where an example is helpful is when the use of the suggestion is not obvious or when something about it is just complex enough to require further explanation. The only place an image is helpful is when you are trying to add or change something for aesthetic value.
You should only put what is absolutely necessary to convey the idea. Over-complicating your speech, adding pointless or redundant sentences or images, or otherwise putting unnecessary baggage into an idea just bloats it.
I do understand the concept of fallacies, but I'm afraid this one is beyond my grasp to comprehend. Could you point out where people have used it, so I can incorporate the absence of it into my general mindset?
Moderator/ thread owner. The comments on the suggestion advice thread in this forum should be moderated IMHO. It's not for everybody to comment on and the noise detracts from the initial posting. Commentary should be separately threaded off the sticky. The level and tone of recent comments do not add to the sticky posting for the suggestion.
While I do not agree with everything, the suggestion advice is useful. Cleaning the sticky is very useful, so discussion of issues with the advice should be separately threaded.
I fail to see how comments on the thread about the thread detract from the original post. I'm not sure how cleaning it would do anything other than make people less willing to aid in its expansion/clarification. This is not a professional document, nor was it created by an admin or moderator. The level and tone do not need to be professional or anywhere near it, and the comments have no need to be moderated for level and tone, except when it becomes downright uncivil. This thread is not an elitist untouchable document that we need to keep the filthy comments away from. It's for the common poster, and the common poster should feel just fine airing their grievances, regardless of how they do so.
Guys remember when people would make threads about Herobrine and natural disasters, and everyone would support those ideas with gumdrop smiles? But as soon as they were added in this guide, we were programmed to hate those things? Remember that you guys?!
A suggestion to this guide, in the "Generally hated and inferior suggestions" section.
Command Blocks in Survival
It would... be... only able to do simple commands! and has a 20 day cooldown! but can be sped up with 40 diamonds! /say and tellraw are considered simple commands! derpity derp support me!
No. No matter what you do, without completely changing command blocks... completely, they will NEVER be balanced for survival, as someone will always be able to find an exploit to it. Either that, or you just allow /say, and it is horribly useless.
I have seen 5 or so of these threads, and never, has it received more than 1 positive comment.
Also take a look at this guide if you are requesting builders for a server/project.
Please note, if I deny a suggestion because it is already possible, then I mean it is already possible withing 10 command blocks (That do not spawn other command blocks) or up to 5 creations (Command blocks that spawn other command blocks) to make your suggestion.
If I critique your suggestion I am not hating on you. Learn the difference.
A suggestion to this guide, in the "Generally hated and inferior suggestions" section.
Command Blocks in Survival
It would... be... only able to do simple commands! and has a 20 day cooldown! but can be sped up with 40 diamonds! /say and tellraw are considered simple commands! derpity derp support me!
No. No matter what you do, without completely changing command blocks... completely, they will NEVER be balanced for survival, as someone will always be able to find an exploit to it. Either that, or you just allow /say, and it is horribly useless.
I have seen 5 or so of these threads, and never, has it received more than 1 positive comment.
I agree with you, command blocks for survival would be rally OP, I have though of an exploit for most commands.
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Okay, this seems like a nice reply, overall, but I told you that I meant to say something else instead of "This wasn't hated on, until put into the guide."
I'm a little curious, what did you actually mean instead? Not that I'm pressuring you for some forced answer, but I'm still kinda curious.
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Yeah, that guy in the avatar is me. I'm *that* strange. It happens. Sometimes people act like that. Just go with it. I can offer help with suggestions even before you post them - NOT make your suggestions - but help you with them.
Developers don't come here? That's a flat statement, may I assume it's meant that ... developers don't look generally look here for initial ideas or suggestions that come out of the blue? I certainly don't, but I do mine for suggestions that support my ideas and expound on them. EVERYTHING users do can help or hinder, without targeting someone to implement, what's the point.
Developers will have Google or other search engines that take us here when we are trying to decide what and how to fill whatever motivates us as we determine if a need exists. I don't just code for me.
My explanation was elaborate, because of the flat statement on images as "pointless" in most suggestions. Words plus pictures sell ideas, but ok, I see the point.
I would concur that many/most developers don't come here, but the key person that can act on suggestions is a developer/implementer. The suggester is speaking to those that act, not just appealing to the general public.
You understand fallacies, but the average suggester and critic may not. I think it's useful advice in a forum suggestion to mention them when you comment on the actions of suggesters and critics. But again, a flat statement about developers.
Botjoe wrote a mod partly in response to a suggestion for vanilla minecraft. Developers do not come here to read suggestions. Botjoe therefore is not a developer.
New topic: I was being wry about Herobrinum. The pattern is "Reductio ad HatedPersonum". This guide I suggest should point to certain obvious fallacies in logical argument, specifically the reducing of a thread topic to nonsense by referring to the opposing person's Herobrine support :). This hijacks the thread. It's an ad hominem attack.
Therefore I used "Reductio ad Herobrinum" as the observation that any thread discussing a topic with more than one side will refer sooner or later devolve to some member of the forum pointing to the other side's Herobrine support in a discussion. It's a pointed reference to Godwin's rule of internet discussion.
Not that that is happening in this thread.
>> I never said anything about Herobrine being loved, and it depends when you suggest a natural disaster. Overpowered attack and/or terrain damage is guaranteed to get you minimal support, but if you make the natural disaster idea more balanced and overall more well-thought out, you will get dozens, hundreds, possibly thousands of supporters! <<
Both sides are making an "appeal to the people". What this author and the opposing viewpoints may be hindered by is too much of a relying "appeal to the people" logic. Generally hated is an appeal to the people argument also.
I quote >>
Appeal to the People
If you suggest too strongly that someone's claim or argument is correct simply because it's what most everyone believes, then you've committed the fallacy of appeal to the people. Similarly, if you suggest too strongly that someone's claim or argument is mistaken simply because it's not what most everyone believes, then you've also committed the fallacy. Agreement with popular opinion is not necessarily a reliable sign of truth, and deviation from popular opinion is not necessarily a reliable sign of error, but if you assume it is and do so with enthusiasm, then you're guilty of committing this fallacy. It is also called mob appeal, appeal to the gallery, argument from popularity, and argumentum ad populum. The 'too strongly' is important in the description of the fallacy because what most everyone believes is, for that reason, somewhat likely to be true, all things considered. However, the fallacy occurs when this degree of support is overestimated.
Example:
You should turn to channel 6. It's the most watched channel this year.
This is fallacious because of its implicitly accepting the questionable premise that the most watched channel this year is, for that reason alone, the best channel for you.<<
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To any that read the guide... as a mod developer, to some of us (or at least one), your feedbacks and suggestions do matter. The suggestion forum wouldn't matter if you knew no one would read it. Why bother if no one could/would read it develops or implements some way to help fulfill some common need. These suggestions don't always weigh heavily, but they do help. Some few or more do read these. They can clarify an idea.
The better you present, and the more interest you generate in a poll may or may not make a difference. In writing, "Worse is worse and better is better." What you need matters and those needs is not always selected by those reading on interest based poll numbers. If one developer reads your suggestion, the suggestion may go forward, or it may not. Mojang or Microsoft may implement it, or it may influence a mod. The mod may come back into minecraft (some world edit like commands are now vanilla). I wrote a mod for a feature I wanted in minecraft.
No one may ever tell you. Many different people will read your suggestions. Why I read a suggestion is usually because I am looking for similar ideas. No one is "stealing" if you post in a public forum.
I can recommend that reading this guide, and also reading the critics guide will help. They aren't rules, but they help. I don't agree with everything there, but they ain't bad. An idea you suggest does not have to be perfect, but do remember it's competing for attention. The first post matters most, few go back to read later. Presenting the suggestion as best you can matters. I don't read all of them or even many, but some of the few I did, did help me.
Largest file loaded is 90K commands from a command_block.
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To any that read the guide... as a mod developer, to some of us (or at least one), your feedbacks and suggestions do matter. The suggestion forum wouldn't matter if you knew no one would read it. Why bother if no one could/would read it develops or implements some way to help fulfill some common need. These suggestions don't always weigh heavily, but they do help. Some few or more do read these. They can clarify an idea.
The better you present, and the more interest you generate in a poll may or may not make a difference. In writing, "Worse is worse and better is better." What you need matters and those needs is not always selected by those reading on interest based poll numbers. If one developer reads your suggestion, the suggestion may go forward, or it may not. Mojang or Microsoft may implement it, or it may influence a mod. The mod may come back into minecraft (some world edit like commands are now vanilla). I wrote a mod for a feature I wanted in minecraft.
No one may ever tell you. Many different people will read your suggestions. Why I read a suggestion is usually because I am looking for similar ideas. No one is "stealing" if you post in a public forum.
I can recommend that reading this guide, and also reading the critics guide will help. They aren't rules, but they help. I don't agree with everything there, but they ain't bad. An idea you suggest does not have to be perfect, but do remember it's competing for attention. The first post matters most, few go back to read later. Presenting the suggestion as best you can matters. I don't read all of them or even many, but some of the few I did, did help me.
Someone's vanilla suggestion helped me create a rather complex mod... I will probably revise it back into a suggestion for Microsoft/Mojang.
Thank you to suggesters. There... someone said it.
The thread guide moderator/poster can add a synposis to the guide or summarize it.
As a programmer and minecraft command stoner, I completely agree with this. I don't read suggestions for ideas for mods, but for vanilla command block ideas, because when you know the ins and outs of something, you get to a point where you just can't think of anything else to use them for.
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Curse PremiumI assumed potential implementers. The advice here is sufficient for that. Are suggestion posted the "selling an idea" to potential implementers?
In larger view, Suggestions are proposals of features (to some in the business they are called ECPs or Engineering Change Proposals). The suggester is "selling an idea" both to the public, but also to potential developers/implementers. As a potential developer (modder), or suggester, you sell the idea with brevity.
In the business world "Professional proposal writing" is a hard disciplined effort. What professionals call "Winning proposals" have common characteristics, most of which are covered herein in the suggestion advice.
Other than a recommendation for more graphics, it's OK enough.
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Regarding recent posts, I should out point to obvious fallacies such as Reductio ad Herobrinum [irony] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum). When an Reductio ad Absurdum fallacy is reached, end the conversation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
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This suggestion advice is provides a reasonable chance for reasonably fair decisions, and that is good enough. It can't be perfect.
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Largest file loaded is 90K commands from a command_block.
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This guide is targeted towards the individual engineering the suggestion, and these are things that will help in the presentation of the idea.
Also, when you mentioned moddingbin your post, I feel the need to clarify that this forum is intended for additions to the vanilla game, instead of mods.
Also take a look at this guide if you are requesting builders for a server/project.
Please note, if I deny a suggestion because it is already possible, then I mean it is already possible withing 10 command blocks (That do not spawn other command blocks) or up to 5 creations (Command blocks that spawn other command blocks) to make your suggestion.
If I critique your suggestion I am not hating on you. Learn the difference.
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Curse PremiumI had accepted and understood that the guide is intended toward the writer of the suggestion. The audience the suggester is "selling the idea" to is potential implementers. "Consider the audience" is important.
This forum is a venue of "selling ideas" to Microsoft/Mojang and/or public and/or possibly others.
On vanilla, the idea is intended for vanilla minecraft, but the critiques aren't limited to that for explanation or examples.
I mentioned modding in my post because I developed a mod to extend someone else's (actually a number of them) vanilla suggestion along lines I was already thinking of.
"That's in a mod or you created a mod" to sell an idea (multi-line command blocks) is still valid communication. I don't find coding hard as a means of communication. Nor does it invalidate the initial suggestion ('We want that'). Whether it's here or not, the critique is not limited to text response. Any critic may also implement the potential idea in a different way (add a command for running from a file in a catalog) and recommend features/benefits in a different way (rotation, byline and commandblock mode), because doing it the way asked for meant breaking the commandblock in existing worlds. You also may mod in as a critique. If it bothers someone that I may code as a response, tough.
I extended their concept because I wanted componentized map building for cities and places of interest that are sharable using 99% simple vanilla minecraft commands. Well within doability. Reasonable within Vanilla minecraft.
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I would suggest that whoever make this a limited moderated forum by invite only.
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Slightly covered in the Vague Titles, I know some people who does them. If you click on what seems to be the greatest suggestion and is bad, you have a view there! It's called click bait. Just... don't.
I like Video games, such as Pokemon and animal crossing. My avatar is Villager, possible reference to the Akia Village?
Stuff I support:
[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/account/"http:/www.minecraftforum.net/topic/2486395-maps-with-own-content/"]
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
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Curse PremiumWhile I do not agree with everything, the suggestion advice is useful. Cleaning the sticky is very useful, so discussion of issues with the advice should be separately threaded.
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No one's perfect, and I'm sure you'd want to encourage others to understand that you don't demand perfection; but at least a passable attempt toward the lofty goal. That is possibly all you'd need to temper the overwhelming sense of discouragement and viewed negativity people have toward this thread.
OFFICIAL POSTING/REPLYING GUIDELINES
UNOFFICIAL POSTING GUIDE (PRT)
UNOFFICIAL REPLYING GUIDE (FTC)
This is an overly complex way to explain something I already know. I am a designer; I am aware of the value of images and examples. There's two things about the Minecraft Forums, though, that make me think it's not worth the effort outside of what's absolutely necessary. One, developers will probably never see these suggestions. They simply don't look here. They look on Reddit more often than not. These suggestions are to test people's reactions to them. Two, we can assume everyone already understands the game. There is a certain amount of underlying assumptions that we can rely on. We don't need an example or image where it's not helpful (more likely an example is helpful than an image). The only places where an example is helpful is when the use of the suggestion is not obvious or when something about it is just complex enough to require further explanation. The only place an image is helpful is when you are trying to add or change something for aesthetic value.
You should only put what is absolutely necessary to convey the idea. Over-complicating your speech, adding pointless or redundant sentences or images, or otherwise putting unnecessary baggage into an idea just bloats it.
I do understand the concept of fallacies, but I'm afraid this one is beyond my grasp to comprehend. Could you point out where people have used it, so I can incorporate the absence of it into my general mindset?
I fail to see how comments on the thread about the thread detract from the original post. I'm not sure how cleaning it would do anything other than make people less willing to aid in its expansion/clarification. This is not a professional document, nor was it created by an admin or moderator. The level and tone do not need to be professional or anywhere near it, and the comments have no need to be moderated for level and tone, except when it becomes downright uncivil. This thread is not an elitist untouchable document that we need to keep the filthy comments away from. It's for the common poster, and the common poster should feel just fine airing their grievances, regardless of how they do so.
If you are planning to make a suggestion, please read this.
If you want to know more, you can read this.
For those who complain about post-Beta generation, you might want to see this.
It seems that you are wrong:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/search?display-type=1&forum=1020&forum-scope=t&page=8&search=Herobrine&search-type=1&submit=y
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/search?display-type=1&forum=1020&forum-scope=t&page=8&search=Natural Disasters&search-type=1&submit=y
Those ideas never recived "support with gumdrop smiles".
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The natural disasters one seems full of gumdrop smiles. The Herobrine one seems full of apathy or unpleasant feelings.
If you are planning to make a suggestion, please read this.
If you want to know more, you can read this.
For those who complain about post-Beta generation, you might want to see this.
Command Blocks in Survival
It would... be... only able to do simple commands! and has a 20 day cooldown! but can be sped up with 40 diamonds! /say and tellraw are considered simple commands! derpity derp support me!
No. No matter what you do, without completely changing command blocks... completely, they will NEVER be balanced for survival, as someone will always be able to find an exploit to it. Either that, or you just allow /say, and it is horribly useless.
I have seen 5 or so of these threads, and never, has it received more than 1 positive comment.
Also take a look at this guide if you are requesting builders for a server/project.
Please note, if I deny a suggestion because it is already possible, then I mean it is already possible withing 10 command blocks (That do not spawn other command blocks) or up to 5 creations (Command blocks that spawn other command blocks) to make your suggestion.
If I critique your suggestion I am not hating on you. Learn the difference.
Well, I read several suggestions from pages 8 to 6 and most of the were disliked.
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I agree with you, command blocks for survival would be rally OP, I have though of an exploit for most commands.
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Uhhhh... He was actually being overly sarcastic.
I'm a little curious, what did you actually mean instead? Not that I'm pressuring you for some forced answer, but I'm still kinda curious.
Yeah, that guy in the avatar is me. I'm *that* strange. It happens. Sometimes people act like that. Just go with it. I can offer help with suggestions even before you post them - NOT make your suggestions - but help you with them.
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My explanation was elaborate, because of the flat statement on images as "pointless" in most suggestions. Words plus pictures sell ideas, but ok, I see the point.
I would concur that many/most developers don't come here, but the key person that can act on suggestions is a developer/implementer. The suggester is speaking to those that act, not just appealing to the general public.
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You understand fallacies, but the average suggester and critic may not. I think it's useful advice in a forum suggestion to mention them when you comment on the actions of suggesters and critics. But again, a flat statement about developers.
Botjoe wrote a mod partly in response to a suggestion for vanilla minecraft. Developers do not come here to read suggestions. Botjoe therefore is not a developer.
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New topic: I was being wry about Herobrinum. The pattern is "Reductio ad HatedPersonum". This guide I suggest should point to certain obvious fallacies in logical argument, specifically the reducing of a thread topic to nonsense by referring to the opposing person's Herobrine support :). This hijacks the thread. It's an ad hominem attack.
Therefore I used "Reductio ad Herobrinum" as the observation that any thread discussing a topic with more than one side will refer sooner or later devolve to some member of the forum pointing to the other side's Herobrine support in a discussion. It's a pointed reference to Godwin's rule of internet discussion.
Not that that is happening in this thread.
>> I never said anything about Herobrine being loved, and it depends when you suggest a natural disaster. Overpowered attack and/or terrain damage is guaranteed to get you minimal support, but if you make the natural disaster idea more balanced and overall more well-thought out, you will get dozens, hundreds, possibly thousands of supporters! <<
Both sides are making an "appeal to the people". What this author and the opposing viewpoints may be hindered by is too much of a relying "appeal to the people" logic. Generally hated is an appeal to the people argument also.
I quote >>
Appeal to the People
If you suggest too strongly that someone's claim or argument is correct simply because it's what most everyone believes, then you've committed the fallacy of appeal to the people. Similarly, if you suggest too strongly that someone's claim or argument is mistaken simply because it's not what most everyone believes, then you've also committed the fallacy. Agreement with popular opinion is not necessarily a reliable sign of truth, and deviation from popular opinion is not necessarily a reliable sign of error, but if you assume it is and do so with enthusiasm, then you're guilty of committing this fallacy. It is also called mob appeal, appeal to the gallery, argument from popularity, and argumentum ad populum. The 'too strongly' is important in the description of the fallacy because what most everyone believes is, for that reason, somewhat likely to be true, all things considered. However, the fallacy occurs when this degree of support is overestimated.
Example:
This is fallacious because of its implicitly accepting the questionable premise that the most watched channel this year is, for that reason alone, the best channel for you.<<
See http://dewsberry.com/content/es/content/reference/fallacies/fallacies.htm
Thanks though... the discussion was interesting. My thoughts on forums are certainly improved by the discussion.
Writes the CommandRunnerMod which gives the executefile command to read commands from a file. http://mods.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/246088-commandrunnermod
Largest file loaded is 90K commands from a command_block.
Lasted Updated Aug 7 2016 ... 1.9 to 1.10.2 Also the BlockDumpMod gives blockdump command which writes blocks to a text file as execute setblock commands or gives a report.
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Curse PremiumThe better you present, and the more interest you generate in a poll may or may not make a difference. In writing, "Worse is worse and better is better." What you need matters and those needs is not always selected by those reading on interest based poll numbers. If one developer reads your suggestion, the suggestion may go forward, or it may not. Mojang or Microsoft may implement it, or it may influence a mod. The mod may come back into minecraft (some world edit like commands are now vanilla). I wrote a mod for a feature I wanted in minecraft.
No one may ever tell you. Many different people will read your suggestions. Why I read a suggestion is usually because I am looking for similar ideas. No one is "stealing" if you post in a public forum.
I can recommend that reading this guide, and also reading the critics guide will help. They aren't rules, but they help. I don't agree with everything there, but they ain't bad. An idea you suggest does not have to be perfect, but do remember it's competing for attention. The first post matters most, few go back to read later. Presenting the suggestion as best you can matters. I don't read all of them or even many, but some of the few I did, did help me.
Don't take the forum personally.
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Someone's vanilla suggestion helped me create a rather complex mod... I will probably revise it back into a suggestion for Microsoft/Mojang.
Thank you to suggesters. There... someone said it.
The thread guide moderator/poster can add a synposis to the guide or summarize it.
Writes the CommandRunnerMod which gives the executefile command to read commands from a file. http://mods.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/246088-commandrunnermod
Largest file loaded is 90K commands from a command_block.
Lasted Updated Aug 7 2016 ... 1.9 to 1.10.2 Also the BlockDumpMod gives blockdump command which writes blocks to a text file as execute setblock commands or gives a report.
As a programmer and minecraft command stoner, I completely agree with this. I don't read suggestions for ideas for mods, but for vanilla command block ideas, because when you know the ins and outs of something, you get to a point where you just can't think of anything else to use them for.
Is this comment a reply to me?
If you are planning to make a suggestion, please read this.
If you want to know more, you can read this.
For those who complain about post-Beta generation, you might want to see this.
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Curse PremiumNo, not to you. Can you articulate the question in terms of the thread guide, to the suggestions in the thread, or the purpose of the thread?
Writes the CommandRunnerMod which gives the executefile command to read commands from a file. http://mods.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/246088-commandrunnermod
Largest file loaded is 90K commands from a command_block.
Lasted Updated Aug 7 2016 ... 1.9 to 1.10.2 Also the BlockDumpMod gives blockdump command which writes blocks to a text file as execute setblock commands or gives a report.