so the nether is a nice vacation spot but i wouldnt wanna stay there... i think this should change... have more reason to stay in the nether and mine and what not.
new blocks/ore.
1. nether stone. my idea is a dark grey stone with red flecks or swirl.. this stone can be used like reg stone and to make nether brick. (since really how was it made?)
2. nether dirt.. theres sould sand but this red tinted dirt would be used to grow some new plants to be found in the nether and that only grow in the nether..
3. sulfur/brimstone.. a dull yellowish stone that breaks to powder it can be used as a fuel .. for dim tourches... or in place of gun powder in TNT...
4. nether iron.. a black iron that is stronger than iron less than diamond and can craft everything iron can but adds a more gothic type texture to it.
5. add gold in the nether and reduce it in the overworld (gives it a greater rare value and now that gold is used more it makes finding it better)
6. blood diamond.. red diamond that is a step up from regulare diamond.. very rare to find normaly forming close to the lava sea. also cuts the time to mine obsidian down making gathering it after you have been to the nether much easier..
new plants..
1. nether flower- a red bush with large black flowers it can be ues to make black dye (i know it limits the need to kill squid but you can make squid drop1 ink sack or become hostile when hit) also can be used to make new potion..(dont have a set idea for new potoins sugestion would be welcom) only grows on nether dirt in nether
2. nether tree .. the tree would have a very dark wood near black and wont burn the leaves would be a purple/red close to netherack..also the leaves will light on fire and spread to other leaves but wont burn away or go uot like netherack..(the wood can only be harvested by gold..diamond or blood diamone ax)only grows on nether dirt in nether
3. nether fruit. dark blue fruit drops like an apple from nether tree heals 2 hunger and can be used by crafting 4 diamonds around it into a diamond fuit. it will heal all hunger and heath and give 5 seconds of invunrability..
4. nether cane.. like sugar cane except its dark/black colored and grows only next to lava on soul sand or nether dirt. can be used to make black paper (used to make maps for the nether..and "spell book") also makes ingrediants for new potion.. (dosent burn)
5. nether wheat..dark color wheat grows on tilled nether dirt (nether dirt stays tilled when close to "tainted water" will explain tainted water later) grows same as wheat and used to make dark bread heals 2 hunger.
new mobs..
1. nether creeper..same as creeper except nether color..shorter fuse..and more damage. drops sulfur..
2. flaming zombie.. stronger zombie thats in flame but doesnt die..when it hits you it has a chance to light you..when it walks on netherak it has a chance to light..drops "charred flesh"
new misc..
1. tainted water. dark gey water in the nether .. it lights on fire when touching a fire/lave source instead of puting it out.. can be used in new potions. in over world it kills plants with in 3 blocks of it turning grass to dirt..
2. "chared flesh.. heals 0.5 hunger
3. new use for soul sand..can be cooked into soul glass.. a tinted glass with "spooky faces" when light touches it it glows giving off 2 blocks of light but light wont pass thru it.
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i hope you like my ideas i put out..if you have any comments or sugestions please feel free to say..oh and sorry about any spelling or what not and the neames arent set in stone just couldnt think of any real good names to use...
Ghasts really aren bad at all tho for being in "hell" i mean you can reflect the attack anb kill with one hit..and i know a lot of what i said was taking over world things and making them "nether" but part of that is so you have a reason and might just stay there a while..grow a farm or what not... plus there arent a lot of things i can think of to add that are completly unique.. if you have some thoughts on that please share...
1. nether stone. my idea is a dark grey stone with red flecks or swirl.. this stone can be used like reg stone and to make nether brick. (since really how was it made?)
No need. We have Netherrack.
2. nether dirt.. theres sould sand but this red tinted dirt would be used to grow some new plants to be found in the nether and that only grow in the nether..
No need. We have Soul Sand and Gravel. We already have Nether Warts as our Nether plants.
3. sulfur/brimstone.. a dull yellowish stone that breaks to powder it can be used as a fuel .. for dim tourches... or in place of gun powder in TNT...
We already have dim torches, they're called Redstone Torches. Let's just leave Gunpowder as the only TNT catalyst.
4. nether iron.. a black iron that is stronger than iron less than diamond and can craft everything iron can but adds a more gothic type texture to it.
Uncreative and pointless.
5. add gold in the nether and reduce it in the overworld (gives it a greater rare value and now that gold is used more it makes finding it better)
Uhhh..? We already have gold in the Nether? Zombie Pigmen can drop gold nuggets.
6. blood diamond.. red diamond that is a step up from regulare diamond.. very rare to find normaly forming close to the lava sea. also cuts the time to mine obsidian down making gathering it after you have been to the nether much easier..
That would be overpowered. Regular diamonds are enough. If you want to mine Obsidian faster, get an enchantment.
new plants..
No.
1. nether flower- a red bush with large black flowers it can be ues to make black dye (i know it limits the need to kill squid but you can make squid drop1 ink sack or become hostile when hit) also can be used to make new potion..(dont have a set idea for new potoins sugestion would be welcom) only grows on nether dirt in nether
Making Squid become hostile does not balance the idea. Black dye should just be left to Squid. In fact, all dyes should just stay in the Overworld.
2. nether tree .. the tree would have a very dark wood near black and wont burn the leaves would be a purple/red close to netherack..also the leaves will light on fire and spread to other leaves but wont burn away or go uot like netherack..(the wood can only be harvested by gold..diamond or blood diamone ax)only grows on nether dirt in nether
Trees don't belong in the red hot hellish Nether... Also, why would only gold or blood diamond be capable of mining something from a tree..?
3. nether fruit. dark blue fruit drops like an apple from nether tree heals 2 hunger and can be used by crafting 4 diamonds around it into a diamond fuit. it will heal all hunger and heath and give 5 seconds of invunrability..
Fruit in the Nether? Doesn't fit. Also, the invulnerability thing would be overpowered, making some enchantment and potions useless.
4. nether cane.. like sugar cane except its dark/black colored and grows only next to lava on soul sand or nether dirt. can be used to make black paper (used to make maps for the nether..and "spell book") also makes ingrediants for new potion.. (dosent burn)
Nether maps can be made with normal paper. We don't need a "spell book". Any kind of "cane" wouldn't fit in the Nether, like the bulk of your other ideas.
5. nether wheat..dark color wheat grows on tilled nether dirt (nether dirt stays tilled when close to "tainted water" will explain tainted water later) grows same as wheat and used to make dark bread heals 2 hunger.
Yet just another Overworld copy but made for the Nether, but once again, it doesn't fit.
1. nether creeper..same as creeper except nether color..shorter fuse..and more damage. drops sulfur..
Alright, simply adding "Nether" as a prefix to everything Overworld-made is getting old now. This mob is just a cheap copy.
2. flaming zombie.. stronger zombie thats in flame but doesnt die..when it hits you it has a chance to light you..when it walks on netherak it has a chance to light..drops "charred flesh"
1. tainted water. dark gey water in the nether .. it lights on fire when touching a fire/lave source instead of puting it out.. can be used in new potions. in over world it kills plants with in 3 blocks of it turning grass to dirt..
Pointless. Flammable water? I'm sure the "kill plants" feature would make a nice grieving feature.
2. "chared flesh.. heals 0.5 hunger
Pointless.
3. new use for soul sand..can be cooked into soul glass.. a tinted glass with "spooky faces" when light touches it it glows giving off 2 blocks of light but light wont pass thru it.
Nether dirt? I don't know about that, but I like my idea of pale gray/ possibly deep, dark red dirt with sand properties. Also, the plant sounds like my nether thistle/ lucid thistle idea. I thought of a name for it, so I edited my post in the other thread. Quite frankly, I think the flower/ my lucid thistle is the only plant in that list of ideas that should be added. We don't need nether equivalents of the rest and my idea, while meant to be a more hellish cactus equivalent isn't really the same thing either. Sure, it hurts you like cactus, but it grows outward from the central root and works like cobweb when you try to go through it. (so, it's not a block.) The only part you can't go through is the stem.
Anyhow, I'd still like to see Nether Stone (only found Extreme Valley type formations) and Scorched/ Charred Netherrack. I honestly like that name better than Brimstone or Sulphur. I'd prefer it to be only a fuel though (a fuel that's twice as powerful as coal, smelts 16 at a time and does it twice as fast), not something used for torches. So, basically, by visiting the Nether, you can not only have a upgrade to lighting, but towards fuel. Of course, Valleys would be quite rare, so chances are you'll have to stick with good 'ol coal most of the time and even if you get a decent amount of glowstone, would you really use it for exploring caves?
As for mobs, I'm all for new Nether mobs. If they thought two was going to be enough, they're horribly mistakened. However, copies of overworld mobs isn't the way to go, even if we kind of already one, via the Magma Cube. Sure, they might have a different attribute, but they still act quite the same, right?
Finally, while I do want the Nether to eventually get the ore that's bridges the iron-diamond gap, I want it to be something new and possibly have a magical sounding name. Nether iron or blood diamond does not sound magical. This ore would also double for potion brewing, something I don't feel nether iron would furfill, maybe blood diamond though, but I'd rather it have an entirely new name. My reasoning for this ore being in the nether is..
A. It's potion-related. The two most important components for potion-making are only in the nether. Since you get your brewing start there, I'd rather the ore be there.
B. To balance it out. Want a good armor making ore that's better than iron? Go to the Nether. Oh, and this ore would be second to Gold in terms of enchanting capability, so yeah. Sure, some people could just use diamond, but would you really have enough for a full set of armor as soon as you get your first diamonds/ enough to get a nether portal. Not to mention, a lot of people (including myself) seem to prefer saving diamonds for swords and tools.
Oh, and I love to see a boss in the Nether, but it should be limited to a new structure. In fact, I feel any new bosses added in the future should be limited to strucutres or even specific rooms, instead of dimensions. The only other option could be summoning them.
"I don't plan to add a new dimension at the moment. It's just to performance heavy on servers, and the current dimensions need more attention before we start adding new ones." < Yeah, like biomes or actual varied terrain in the nether. Nether ruins didn't do the trick at all.
I understand that, but the recent Nether Update was part of the "Adventure" Update. I don't know about you, but Nether Ruins didn't do it for me. Once you find one, there's really nothing else to look for other than more glowstone. I'd to be able to find more stuff. Semi-rare to rarely generated NON-netherrack and lava areas would be awesome.
As I said before on my idea, these aren't meant to be biomes. They're meant to spawn like in the pre-biome generation. The Nether would work like that. The Overworld could still be the only spot for biomes (unless they're in the Sky Dimenision, which should be in later update, much later, like closer to 2.0 later), but the Nether should also have alternate terrain, just not orderly like the overworld, more chaotic.. like Hell probably is. Also, the stuff I thought of is meant to be hellish in terms of naming, look, and even what they can do. (namely the Thistles, which hurt more than Cacti and would have a chance of setting you on fire)
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"I don't plan to add a new dimension at the moment. It's just to performance heavy on servers, and the current dimensions need more attention before we start adding new ones." < Yeah, like biomes or actual varied terrain in the nether. Nether ruins didn't do the trick at all.
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new blocks/ore.
1. nether stone. my idea is a dark grey stone with red flecks or swirl.. this stone can be used like reg stone and to make nether brick. (since really how was it made?)
2. nether dirt.. theres sould sand but this red tinted dirt would be used to grow some new plants to be found in the nether and that only grow in the nether..
3. sulfur/brimstone.. a dull yellowish stone that breaks to powder it can be used as a fuel .. for dim tourches... or in place of gun powder in TNT...
4. nether iron.. a black iron that is stronger than iron less than diamond and can craft everything iron can but adds a more gothic type texture to it.
5. add gold in the nether and reduce it in the overworld (gives it a greater rare value and now that gold is used more it makes finding it better)
6. blood diamond.. red diamond that is a step up from regulare diamond.. very rare to find normaly forming close to the lava sea. also cuts the time to mine obsidian down making gathering it after you have been to the nether much easier..
new plants..
1. nether flower- a red bush with large black flowers it can be ues to make black dye (i know it limits the need to kill squid but you can make squid drop1 ink sack or become hostile when hit) also can be used to make new potion..(dont have a set idea for new potoins sugestion would be welcom) only grows on nether dirt in nether
2. nether tree .. the tree would have a very dark wood near black and wont burn the leaves would be a purple/red close to netherack..also the leaves will light on fire and spread to other leaves but wont burn away or go uot like netherack..(the wood can only be harvested by gold..diamond or blood diamone ax)only grows on nether dirt in nether
3. nether fruit. dark blue fruit drops like an apple from nether tree heals 2 hunger and can be used by crafting 4 diamonds around it into a diamond fuit. it will heal all hunger and heath and give 5 seconds of invunrability..
4. nether cane.. like sugar cane except its dark/black colored and grows only next to lava on soul sand or nether dirt. can be used to make black paper (used to make maps for the nether..and "spell book") also makes ingrediants for new potion.. (dosent burn)
5. nether wheat..dark color wheat grows on tilled nether dirt (nether dirt stays tilled when close to "tainted water" will explain tainted water later) grows same as wheat and used to make dark bread heals 2 hunger.
new mobs..
1. nether creeper..same as creeper except nether color..shorter fuse..and more damage. drops sulfur..
2. flaming zombie.. stronger zombie thats in flame but doesnt die..when it hits you it has a chance to light you..when it walks on netherak it has a chance to light..drops "charred flesh"
new misc..
1. tainted water. dark gey water in the nether .. it lights on fire when touching a fire/lave source instead of puting it out.. can be used in new potions. in over world it kills plants with in 3 blocks of it turning grass to dirt..
2. "chared flesh.. heals 0.5 hunger
3. new use for soul sand..can be cooked into soul glass.. a tinted glass with "spooky faces" when light touches it it glows giving off 2 blocks of light but light wont pass thru it.
..........................
i hope you like my ideas i put out..if you have any comments or sugestions please feel free to say..oh and sorry about any spelling or what not and the neames arent set in stone just couldnt think of any real good names to use...
No need. We have Netherrack.
No need. We have Soul Sand and Gravel. We already have Nether Warts as our Nether plants.
We already have dim torches, they're called Redstone Torches. Let's just leave Gunpowder as the only TNT catalyst.
Uncreative and pointless.
Uhhh..? We already have gold in the Nether? Zombie Pigmen can drop gold nuggets.
That would be overpowered. Regular diamonds are enough. If you want to mine Obsidian faster, get an enchantment.
No.
Making Squid become hostile does not balance the idea. Black dye should just be left to Squid. In fact, all dyes should just stay in the Overworld.
Trees don't belong in the red hot hellish Nether... Also, why would only gold or blood diamond be capable of mining something from a tree..?
Fruit in the Nether? Doesn't fit. Also, the invulnerability thing would be overpowered, making some enchantment and potions useless.
Nether maps can be made with normal paper. We don't need a "spell book". Any kind of "cane" wouldn't fit in the Nether, like the bulk of your other ideas.
Yet just another Overworld copy but made for the Nether, but once again, it doesn't fit.
Alright, simply adding "Nether" as a prefix to everything Overworld-made is getting old now. This mob is just a cheap copy.
Pointless. Also, I already came up with a better version of this idea anyway. Although that was a long time ago.
Pointless. Flammable water? I'm sure the "kill plants" feature would make a nice grieving feature.
Pointless.
Glass giving off light..?
...?
No thanks. We have Ghasts floating around. That's enough.
Anyhow, I'd still like to see Nether Stone (only found Extreme Valley type formations) and Scorched/ Charred Netherrack. I honestly like that name better than Brimstone or Sulphur. I'd prefer it to be only a fuel though (a fuel that's twice as powerful as coal, smelts 16 at a time and does it twice as fast), not something used for torches. So, basically, by visiting the Nether, you can not only have a upgrade to lighting, but towards fuel. Of course, Valleys would be quite rare, so chances are you'll have to stick with good 'ol coal most of the time and even if you get a decent amount of glowstone, would you really use it for exploring caves?
As for mobs, I'm all for new Nether mobs. If they thought two was going to be enough, they're horribly mistakened. However, copies of overworld mobs isn't the way to go, even if we kind of already one, via the Magma Cube. Sure, they might have a different attribute, but they still act quite the same, right?
Finally, while I do want the Nether to eventually get the ore that's bridges the iron-diamond gap, I want it to be something new and possibly have a magical sounding name. Nether iron or blood diamond does not sound magical. This ore would also double for potion brewing, something I don't feel nether iron would furfill, maybe blood diamond though, but I'd rather it have an entirely new name. My reasoning for this ore being in the nether is..
A. It's potion-related. The two most important components for potion-making are only in the nether. Since you get your brewing start there, I'd rather the ore be there.
B. To balance it out. Want a good armor making ore that's better than iron? Go to the Nether. Oh, and this ore would be second to Gold in terms of enchanting capability, so yeah. Sure, some people could just use diamond, but would you really have enough for a full set of armor as soon as you get your first diamonds/ enough to get a nether portal. Not to mention, a lot of people (including myself) seem to prefer saving diamonds for swords and tools.
Oh, and I love to see a boss in the Nether, but it should be limited to a new structure. In fact, I feel any new bosses added in the future should be limited to strucutres or even specific rooms, instead of dimensions. The only other option could be summoning them.
It's HELL. People should NOT want to go to HELL.
I understand that, but the recent Nether Update was part of the "Adventure" Update. I don't know about you, but Nether Ruins didn't do it for me. Once you find one, there's really nothing else to look for other than more glowstone. I'd to be able to find more stuff. Semi-rare to rarely generated NON-netherrack and lava areas would be awesome.
As I said before on my idea, these aren't meant to be biomes. They're meant to spawn like in the pre-biome generation. The Nether would work like that. The Overworld could still be the only spot for biomes (unless they're in the Sky Dimenision, which should be in later update, much later, like closer to 2.0 later), but the Nether should also have alternate terrain, just not orderly like the overworld, more chaotic.. like Hell probably is. Also, the stuff I thought of is meant to be hellish in terms of naming, look, and even what they can do. (namely the Thistles, which hurt more than Cacti and would have a chance of setting you on fire)