As you all know armor practically makes you god in mine craft (especially if enchanted) so i came up with some things to re-balance the way combat works! Also mixed with a couple of suggestions. I am very unsatisfied with combat after the 1.0.0 update, so i decided to put some things that might fix some stuff, and maybe add a little things here and there.
JUMPCRITTING + FULL SET OF ENCHANTED DIAMOND ARMOR = GOD
1: Hitboxes! Durr!
UNarmored
Hit in head: 5 Dmg
Hit in chest 2 Dmg
hit in arms 1 dmg
hit in legs 1 dmg( if hit in legs with crit you cant sprint for about 10 seconds
With different types of armor it will differ
2: Armor nerf!
Leather armor should be defined and have a use.
Leather: does not affect your speed and protects you minimally
Iron: affects your speed by half but protects you normally
Gold: **** speed BUT is in between leather and iron when it comes to protection
Diamond: lightweight and good protection (since its the rarest it could have a unique ability to be lightweight, but i have another suggestion)
HEAVY ARMOR AFFECTS YOUR JUMPING!
SO PEOPLE WONT JUMPCRIT YOU TO DEATH!
Heavier types of armor should make it more difficult to swim
3: Reinforced/ Light armor!
Reinforced armor is basically normal armor combined with more of its ores to create more protection, but in cost of your speed
Reinforced Iron
Iron+Iron = Banded Iron
banded iron armor = stronger but slower armor, greater durability (different look!)
for the love of god no reinforced diamond
4: Legit way to get chain mail!
chain should be stronger than iron BTW
IT takes 4 iron ingots to make a chain circle or square thingy, craft it and you get 4 iron rings
Craft 8 iron rings to make an iron ring slab
craft the iron ring slabs to make armor
Chainmail could also serve as under armor, chainmail is lightweight compared to gold and iron, but if combined with gold or iron you move slow as hell and are unable to sprint. Although your armor is durable as diamond and protects about 75% the protection diamond gives.
chainmail underarmor can be crafted by mixing 3 iron rings together forming an underarmor slab
underarmor can only be combined with iron, gold, or diamond
5: wool armor
doesn't do ****, just looks nice, ideal for civilians and they wool can be colored :biggrin.gif:
(WOOL ARMOR WOULDNT LOOK LIKE NORMAL ARMOR, it would look more fitting but i don't have a design idea)
6:Sheep meat!
Basically sheep drop lamb chops AND wool, kinda like cows, because when i start a new world i starve and the spawning system does **** all and gives me nothing but sheep ._.
7: Steel (a new ore)
Stronger than iron and chainmail, but weaker than diamond
Basically a new ore, durable as 75% of diamond, darker than iron, rarer than iron, instead of crafting a steel sword, it can craft a steel KATANA! :biggrin.gif:
Steel armor is the second heaviest, but is the second strongest, and is the second best looking C:
8: Give each armor and tool a different look
I know we can use texture packs, but i think a wood sword shouldn't look like an iron or diamond sword :sleep.gif:
9: Make tool crafting slightly more in depth
For certain types of tools, some tools like stone should require string to craft ( so i can hold the part you hold to the part you use to hit stuff with)
Just a small idea someone could add onto to make better
10: Weapon nerf!
For certain swords make the swing speed slower, per-say a wood sword you could flail everywhere, but an iron sword will slow down your swinging speed
Because were all tired of everyone jumping up and down swinging everywhere and critting!!!
11: More weapons in vanilla!(not sure if this is a suggestion)
for the love of god we need more weapons!
when we PVP we only have swords and arrows, and sometimes potions. But we require more weapons for variety!
Katana: good speed:good damage
normal sword: good damage: moderate speed
Dagger: low damage: fastest speed
WarHammer: Highest damage: slowest swing speed
waraxe: moderate speed good damage
Crossbow(NON ENCHANTABLE): cant charge arrows(NO CRITS), but faster than the regular bow and arrow, but harder to craft compared to bow(DEGRADES FASTER
12: poison-able weapons!
crafting any poison with an arrow or a weapon poisons it.
Self explanitory
13: Villager guards! :tongue.gif:
Basically armored villagers with swords ranging from:
wood to iron
and armor ranging from
Leather to Iron ( we cant have them running around with gold and diamond :tongue.gif:)
Basically a little challenge if you want to massacre them all :>
and when you hit innocent ones they make the old "OOH"" pain sound, so you can remember the old pain sound :>
Now feel free to add on to any of these suggestions to your liking! and say which ones should be approved. and if you dont like any please explain and give a valid reason not like: "NOTCH SED NO HURR" or "NO IT SUX". Just give me a decent reason why it's bad, or how it should change to be better.
This is a great list. It could improve Minecraft but its simplistic combat is what makes it different from everything else. Its hard to say to Jeb this is a good idea and this one as well if u dont mind. But if u could take a few apects from this list of improvements then Minecraft would change completely. Good list.
This is a great list. It could improve Minecraft but its simplistic combat is what makes it different from everything else. Its hard to say to Jeb this is a good idea and this one as well if u dont mind. But if u could take a few apects from this list of improvements then Minecraft would change completely. Good list.
Ah, thanks. Whenever i get criticism it's usually a full on bash. Your one of the rational people of the forums :3
But i have to say, combat does get a little bit bland after a while with just a sword and a bow doesn't it? thats just me.
Steel as an ore seems a bit weird to me, given that fact that steel IS any alloy...... but anyway enough of my overthinking nonsense, i like the idea, but i think there should be a way to WEAKEN the armor a bit but restore some, if not all of your speed. Anyway Piggles approves!
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Steel as an ore seems a bit weird to me, given that fact that steel IS any alloy...... but anyway enough of my overthinking nonsense, i like the idea, but i think there should be a way to WEAKEN the armor a bit but restore some, if not all of your speed. Anyway Piggles approves!
Hmm, the only sensible way to nerf armor seems to be the speed, it affects jumping, swimming, sprinting, etc. I like how the armor works now, but it seems too OP IMO if diamond and enchanted. and i just added steel so there could be an extra armor, y'know to expand armor a bit :3
well i kinda like 4 5 6 11 12 13 but i dont like the nerfing armour and weapons and how bot instead of steal being able to be mined you get another ore that you must craft or smelt with iron in a special type of furnace also i dont like the hit boxes because i play on a computer that lags alot sometimes and i only get hits when i randomly hit them so doing less damage while im lagging would cause me to die faster(you can see why this goes bad) as for the weapons there should be axes designed for war and other types of weapons but the crossbow should cost more to craft and have a slower reload time and do a bit more damage than the regular bow and also it should have special arrows for it that have a different reicipie. the dagger and the hammer seem good also.
well i kinda like 4 5 6 11 12 13 but i dont like the nerfing armour and weapons and how bot instead of steal being able to be mined you get another ore that you must craft or smelt with iron in a special type of furnace also i dont like the hit boxes because i play on a computer that lags alot sometimes and i only get hits when i randomly hit them so doing less damage while im lagging would cause me to die faster(you can see why this goes bad) as for the weapons there should be axes designed for war and other types of weapons but the crossbow should cost more to craft and have a slower reload time and do a bit more damage than the regular bow and also it should have special arrows for it that have a different reicipie. the dagger and the hammer seem good also.
I only want to nerf weapons and armor because i PVP alot, and everyone just has a full set of enchanted diamond armor and sword, and jumpcrit everyone to detah, i think jumping should be harder in armor, armor should slow you down. Because who can wear a full set of diamond and sprint for miles IRL?
Yes, if leather armor made you agile maybe people would actually find a point to wearing it.
If leather armor let you crit better it's like an assissins set.
I like all of these ideas except for steel, I'm tired of any more tiers added.
Yes, if leather armor made you agile maybe people would actually find a point to wearing it.
If leather armor let you crit better it's like an assissins set.
I like all of these ideas except for steel, I'm tired of any more tiers added.
Not to mention if daggers were added, and nerfing swingspeeds, leather would be used a bit more often. And i added steel because i kinda got bored of our few tiers, so i thought i'd mix things up a little :3
As you all know armor practically makes you god in mine craft (especially if enchanted) so i came up with some things to re-balance the way combat works! Also mixed with a couple of suggestions. I am very unsatisfied with combat after the 1.0.0 update, so i decided to put some things that might fix some stuff, and maybe add a little things here and there.
JUMPCRITTING + FULL SET OF ENCHANTED DIAMOND ARMOR = GOD
1: Hitboxes! Durr!
UNarmored
Hit in head: 5 Dmg
Hit in chest 2 Dmg
hit in arms 1 dmg
hit in legs 1 dmg( if hit in legs with crit you cant sprint for about 10 seconds
With different types of armor it will differ
Personally, I would like to have a head hitbox and the rest of the body to keep it balanced, but that's just me. I'm not sure if it can be implemented, but I'm relatively sure.
2: Armor nerf!
Leather armor should be defined and have a use.
Leather: does not affect your speed and protects you minimally
Iron: affects your speed by half but protects you normally
Gold: **** speed BUT is in between leather and iron when it comes to protection
Diamond: lightweight and good protection (since its the rarest it could have a unique ability to be lightweight, but i have another suggestion)
Maybe you can't jumpcrit if in armor other than chainmail or leather? I like the speed ideas, but I think diamond should be as slow as iron, personally, and chainmail should slow you down half as much as iron. But that's my opinion.
HEAVY ARMOR AFFECTS YOUR JUMPING!
SO PEOPLE WONT JUMPCRIT YOU TO DEATH! I like this, because it's one of the biggest reasons to not wear heavy armor.
Heavier types of armor should make it more difficult to swim Again, makes sense. I like it.
3: Reinforced/ Light armor!
Reinforced armor is basically normal armor combined with more of its ores to create more protection, but in cost of your speed
Reinforced Iron
Iron+Iron = Banded Iron
banded iron armor = stronger but slower armor, greater durability (different look!)
for the love of god no reinforced diamond Thank you!
4: Legit way to get chain mail!
chain should be stronger than iron BTW Yes, I know its a game, but I feel it should be the other way around. Just look at medieval history. Knights in plate armor were like tanks. Just my 2 cents.
IT takes 4 iron ingots to make a chain circle or square thingy, craft it and you get 4 iron rings
Craft 8 iron rings to make an iron ring slab
craft the iron ring slabs to make armor
Chainmail could also serve as under armor, chainmail is lightweight compared to gold and iron, but if combined with gold or iron you move slow as hell and are unable to sprint. Although your armor is durable as diamond and protects about 75% the protection diamond gives.
chainmail underarmor can be crafted by mixing 3 iron rings together forming an underarmor slab
underarmor can only be combined with iron, gold, or diamond
This seems too complicated to me. Here's my idea: one iron ingot equals 4 rings, 2 rings equal a chain section, and chain sections are used to make armor. Chailmail is in between leather and iron, and is its own separate armor, with no combined wear, though it may work out with balancing (even slower speed?).
5: wool armor
doesn't do ****, just looks nice, ideal for civilians and they wool can be colored :biggrin.gif:
(WOOL ARMOR WOULDNT LOOK LIKE NORMAL ARMOR, it would look more fitting but i don't have a design idea) Like clothing? Okay!
7: Steel (a new ore)
Stronger than iron and chainmail, but weaker than diamond
Basically a new ore, durable as 75% of diamond, darker than iron, rarer than iron, instead of crafting a steel sword, it can craft a steel KATANA! :biggrin.gif:
Steel armor is the second heaviest, but is the second strongest, and is the second best looking C:
Steel is an alloy, so maybe if there was a way to combine it with something else? I don't know.... It would be a bit strange for me to see a "steel ore" in my inventory. But again, that's just me.
8: Give each armor and tool a different look
I know we can use texture packs, but i think a wood sword shouldn't look like an iron or diamond sword :sleep.gif: The swords are different enough for me, but I agree that the armor could use some texture edits.
9: Make tool crafting slightly more in depth
For certain types of tools, some tools like stone should require string to craft ( so i can hold the part you hold to the part you use to hit stuff with)
Just a small idea someone could add onto to make better Meh. Personally, I like the current system fine, and though it makes sense, crafting shouldn't get overcomplicated/require killing spiders. (There is peaceful mode out there...)
10: Weapon nerf!
For certain swords make the swing speed slower, per-say a wood sword you could flail everywhere, but an iron sword will slow down your swinging speed
Because were all tired of everyone jumping up and down swinging everywhere and critting!!! I like how it connects with the armor, but the following weapon suggestion makes this seem redundant. (To me anyways)
11: More weapons in vanilla!(not sure if this is a suggestion)
for the love of god we need more weapons!
when we PVP we only have swords and arrows, and sometimes potions. But we require more weapons for variety!
Katana: good speed:good damage
normal sword: good damage: moderate speed
Dagger: low damage: fastest speed
WarHammer: Highest damage: slowest swing speed
waraxe: moderate speed good damage
Crossbow(NON ENCHANTABLE): cant charge arrows(NO CRITS), but faster than the regular bow and arrow, but harder to craft compared to bow(DEGRADES FASTER
Someone actually made a mod somewhat similar to this, I think. But a good idea nevertheless.
12: poison-able weapons!
crafting any poison with an arrow or a weapon poisons it.
Self explanatory It would connect potion making with crafting even more, and it makes sense. And, it should be easy enough to implement, with the current mobs and such.
13: Villager guards! :tongue.gif:
Basically armored villagers with swords ranging from:
wood to iron
and armor ranging from
Leather to Iron ( we cant have them running around with gold and diamond :tongue.gif:)
Basically a little challenge if you want to massacre them all :>
and when you hit innocent ones they make the old "OOH"" pain sound, so you can remember the old pain sound :> Fun idea for the NPC villages, and it would make them more in-depth. Me like.
Now feel free to add on to any of these suggestions to your liking! and say which ones should be approved. and if you dont like any please explain and give a valid reason not like: "NOTCH SED NO HURR" or "NO IT SUX". Just give me a decent reason why it's bad, or how it should change to be better.
An overall good idea, methinks, and with some tweaks, it could become very balanced and an even better suggestion. Oh, and by the way, I think its a great suggestion.
An overall good idea, methinks, and with some tweaks, it could become very balanced and an even better suggestion. Oh, and by the way, I think its a great suggestion.
I love it when people give their opinion for every suggestion neatly organized like how you did C:
You get a cake! :biggrin.gif:
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JUMPCRITTING + FULL SET OF ENCHANTED DIAMOND ARMOR = GOD
1: Hitboxes! Durr!
UNarmored
Hit in head: 5 Dmg
Hit in chest 2 Dmg
hit in arms 1 dmg
hit in legs 1 dmg( if hit in legs with crit you cant sprint for about 10 seconds
With different types of armor it will differ
2: Armor nerf!
Leather armor should be defined and have a use.
Leather: does not affect your speed and protects you minimally
Iron: affects your speed by half but protects you normally
Gold: **** speed BUT is in between leather and iron when it comes to protection
Diamond: lightweight and good protection (since its the rarest it could have a unique ability to be lightweight, but i have another suggestion)
HEAVY ARMOR AFFECTS YOUR JUMPING!
SO PEOPLE WONT JUMPCRIT YOU TO DEATH!
Heavier types of armor should make it more difficult to swim
3: Reinforced/ Light armor!
Reinforced armor is basically normal armor combined with more of its ores to create more protection, but in cost of your speed
Reinforced leather:
Leather + wool = reinforced leather (makes reinforced helmets), greater durability (different look!)
Reinforced Iron
Iron+Iron = Banded Iron
banded iron armor = stronger but slower armor, greater durability (different look!)
for the love of god no reinforced diamond
4: Legit way to get chain mail!
chain should be stronger than iron BTW
IT takes 4 iron ingots to make a chain circle or square thingy, craft it and you get 4 iron rings
Craft 8 iron rings to make an iron ring slab
craft the iron ring slabs to make armor
Chainmail could also serve as under armor, chainmail is lightweight compared to gold and iron, but if combined with gold or iron you move slow as hell and are unable to sprint. Although your armor is durable as diamond and protects about 75% the protection diamond gives.
chainmail underarmor can be crafted by mixing 3 iron rings together forming an underarmor slab
underarmor can only be combined with iron, gold, or diamond
5: wool armor
doesn't do ****, just looks nice, ideal for civilians and they wool can be colored :biggrin.gif:
(WOOL ARMOR WOULDNT LOOK LIKE NORMAL ARMOR, it would look more fitting but i don't have a design idea)
6:Sheep meat!
Basically sheep drop lamb chops AND wool, kinda like cows, because when i start a new world i starve and the spawning system does **** all and gives me nothing but sheep ._.
7: Steel (a new ore)
Stronger than iron and chainmail, but weaker than diamond
Basically a new ore, durable as 75% of diamond, darker than iron, rarer than iron, instead of crafting a steel sword, it can craft a steel KATANA! :biggrin.gif:
Steel armor is the second heaviest, but is the second strongest, and is the second best looking C:
8: Give each armor and tool a different look
I know we can use texture packs, but i think a wood sword shouldn't look like an iron or diamond sword :sleep.gif:
9: Make tool crafting slightly more in depth
For certain types of tools, some tools like stone should require string to craft ( so i can hold the part you hold to the part you use to hit stuff with)
Just a small idea someone could add onto to make better
10: Weapon nerf!
For certain swords make the swing speed slower, per-say a wood sword you could flail everywhere, but an iron sword will slow down your swinging speed
Because were all tired of everyone jumping up and down swinging everywhere and critting!!!
11: More weapons in vanilla!(not sure if this is a suggestion)
for the love of god we need more weapons!
when we PVP we only have swords and arrows, and sometimes potions. But we require more weapons for variety!
Katana: good speed:good damage
normal sword: good damage: moderate speed
Dagger: low damage: fastest speed
WarHammer: Highest damage: slowest swing speed
waraxe: moderate speed good damage
Crossbow(NON ENCHANTABLE): cant charge arrows(NO CRITS), but faster than the regular bow and arrow, but harder to craft compared to bow(DEGRADES FASTER
12: poison-able weapons!
crafting any poison with an arrow or a weapon poisons it.
Self explanitory
13: Villager guards! :tongue.gif:
Basically armored villagers with swords ranging from:
wood to iron
and armor ranging from
Leather to Iron ( we cant have them running around with gold and diamond :tongue.gif:)
Basically a little challenge if you want to massacre them all :>
and when you hit innocent ones they make the old "OOH"" pain sound, so you can remember the old pain sound :>
Now feel free to add on to any of these suggestions to your liking! and say which ones should be approved. and if you dont like any please explain and give a valid reason not like: "NOTCH SED NO HURR" or "NO IT SUX". Just give me a decent reason why it's bad, or how it should change to be better.
Ah, thanks. Whenever i get criticism it's usually a full on bash. Your one of the rational people of the forums :3
But i have to say, combat does get a little bit bland after a while with just a sword and a bow doesn't it? thats just me.
Hmm, the only sensible way to nerf armor seems to be the speed, it affects jumping, swimming, sprinting, etc. I like how the armor works now, but it seems too OP IMO if diamond and enchanted. and i just added steel so there could be an extra armor, y'know to expand armor a bit :3
I only want to nerf weapons and armor because i PVP alot, and everyone just has a full set of enchanted diamond armor and sword, and jumpcrit everyone to detah, i think jumping should be harder in armor, armor should slow you down. Because who can wear a full set of diamond and sprint for miles IRL?
If leather armor let you crit better it's like an assissins set.
I like all of these ideas except for steel, I'm tired of any more tiers added.
Not to mention if daggers were added, and nerfing swingspeeds, leather would be used a bit more often. And i added steel because i kinda got bored of our few tiers, so i thought i'd mix things up a little :3
An overall good idea, methinks, and with some tweaks, it could become very balanced and an even better suggestion. Oh, and by the way, I think its a great suggestion.
I love it when people give their opinion for every suggestion neatly organized like how you did C:
You get a cake! :biggrin.gif: