This is probably going to be turned into a mod, and Jeb probably doesn`t even consider adding so many dimensions. But it seems like nobody on this thread really seems to know advanced java, which is a problem. Jellomob can probably tell you more if there is something I missed.
I have been trying to get a java expert in here for a while, I am well aware of some of the technical limitations already and have been actively trying to find solutions for them.
And this will probably become a mod, but if jeb wants to add anything from this, he can :wink.gif:
I tried making a model of the water dimension in vanilla minecraft (which I think should be called the Kyther but whatever), and I noticed that even with Glowstone everywhere, it's really really dark under the water. The bio luminescent mobs in the sunlit zone and twilight zone should give off like a light level of 20 or something, or have some special glowing coral that gives off a huge light level, but can only stay alive if surrounded by water. Either that or the W.D. could have some special kind of water that doesn't block out as much light. Or as another suggestion, we could have special equipment that would allow one to see underwater better.
Tl;dr:
Water makes everything too dark, and some adjustments need to be made so people can see underwater there.
Don't worry, I have found solution for that. We just need to adapt this into our mod when we start making it.
I have a lot of Ideas too hard to put in a thread, maybe a youtube video? Maybe soon. But I feel since all the dimensions are opposites, (Nether=Fire The Deep [my choice] =Water Skylands=skyworld End=underworld.) Since opposite, they should have opposite usefulness. So, In the nether you can get Glowstone, in the deep you can get Glow torches and other things like it, So each dimension has a light source that is obtainable, each dimension has a Useful item, like potions, and each dimension has terrain to it like netherack. I also think, Each world has a main and two sides? I think you should go to the main, and it is an infinitley randomly generated world. Then in the world is resources to get to 2 side quests where NPC's of that world can help you complete a quest and they give you an Item. Also the boss will give you an item. I think that makes 3 items (I think magic gem stone things would be cool, and the npc's give you 2 and the boss drops one) With Skylands, Nether, Water, and Overworld, that makes 12 gem stones. With those 12 gem stones, you get all the pieces of a stronghold portal.
Specific dimensions:
Nether = Inhabited Fortress
Water = Abondoned Ruins like Atlantis (Super mario sunshine place)
Overworld = Strongholds
Skylands = Floating castles
End (Dimension not boss) = Underground castles
Also in the End, I think you should go to an underground castle, under a floating island, to get a item, then you have to move up in the end (to the sky limit) Using that object somehow? (Beat a boss to get it, weakening you in the end making boss difficult) Then once at sky limit defeat Dragon once reached the Big MAIN island of the Enderdragon.
Maybe the Skylands could be like the Aether mod? 3 bosses = 3 stones = 1 side of the end portal.
Water = Mermaid? Fish-NPC hybrids?
Nether = Golems
Skylands = Rebellious Valkyries that go against the silver boss, (One of the quests for the side world) (Silver and Bronze aether dungeons are side quests gold is boss)
Overworld = Village NPC's
End = Rebellious endermen against ENDERDRAGON possesed endermen. (Which are one of the side quests of the end)
All these Ideas make the game kind of story based but you can build your own world in each dimension, and pick the dimensional order. The diagram says ANY place once defeating the boss, goes to the end.
EXTRA IDEAS:
Maybe start off in a random dimension? Make ALL dimensions livable with ores and such.
Jungle biomes in 1.2 the top of the water dimension?
Only able to get to dimension using other dimension pieces, or a rift of some kind?
Start in Nether, Find portal, go to nether, get something in nether to take to overworld and make portal to the Water dimension.
1 more thing:
The end portal is very unique, all other portals in mods looked like the Nether portal. I think all of the dimensions should have a unique way of reaching them.
Interesting ideas, but we aren't going to include the Aether in our mod. It tried to be too much at once and failed IMO.
Meh, the idea of any mob being able to break blocks (without explosions of course ) seems kind of OP.
It's not a lot of crazy Creeper-like block destruction. Just like an average of 2 Netherrack blocks or so for the dramatic effect.
We do need lava dwelling mobs, though a whale may not fit very well.
Goodness old chap, they're not whales! They're 5 feet long lava monsters that superficially resemble squooshed down cetaceans. Eh...sorry about that :tongue.gif:
Blocks:
Interesting concept, might be better in a different dimension though.
Well I thought, that in the Overworld you had your good share of everything that could hurt/burn you (Like cacti, lava, etc.) so I figured in a place where everything is out to get you, have a little beneficial block.
A lot of people are opposed to having trees in the nether, including myself. They just don't seem to fit no matter how you put them
Fair enough. Still, I'd like to see some sort of evil, chaotically behaving plant in the Nether. Doing all sorts of random, weird things that would make it appear to have a mind of its own. Like the Harrada Root from Oblivion, but a lot more chaotic.
We might have a valuable gem for each "Main dimension", In which case, The Nether would end up getting ruby.
Probably not for tools though
That would probably be a separate idea in itself, looking for uses for gems, gold, and all that regal fashionable stuff...
Crystallands
Full of glowing crystals when broken turn into materials and it full of Diamond Trees! Also the portal to this world is only unlucked when you have a nether portal looking figure but it has to be made out of diamond blocks.
Crystal dust is used in potion making
Diamond Trees: Can only be harvested with a Diamond Pick (see i made with no shortcuts to diamond heaven).
Crystallands
Full of glowing crystals when broken turn into materials and it full of Diamond Trees! Also the portal to this world is only unlucked when you have a nether portal looking figure but it has to be made out of diamond blocks.
Crystal dust is used in potion making
Diamond Trees: Can only be harvested with a Diamond Pick (see i made with no shortcuts to diamond heaven).
Add more if you like
Did you even read the OP? It says in first few lines that we do not want a dimension made of diamonds and that we want dimensions that will fit in with the rest of minecraft. Neither Notch nor Jeb nor any other good game developer would EVER think for two seconds about adding a dimension (or biome or anything else) made out of diamonds, even if it is a huge pain to get to, even if it is super hostile, it does not make a difference. It is either overpowered or just one of those things that people forget about, like slimes used to be, like squids, like pumpkins used to be, etc.
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Appearance: The screamer is 3 1/2 blocks high. From the waist down shape wise it looks just like the player only a pinkish skin with bones visible and a deep purpleish liquid running down the body. But the moment you go above the waist it changes a lot. For starters it has 4 arms, 2 on each side, the lower ones pointing down at a 45 degree angle and the higher ones pointing up at a 45 degree angle, the arms are textured just like the legs. Then there's the head, its bigger then a players head and shaped like a stereotype alien head but, the top half of the skin and skull have been removed showing only the brain.
How to reach: You reach this boss by activating a portal inside a room in a nether fortress. The portal room would look like this. http://imgur.com/J173v,UHFUN The portal itself would be made out of a medium rare nether material (not steak ) and would look like this. http://imgur.com/J173v,UHFUN#1. To activate the portal you would have to place the portal block in the gaps, completing the portal.
Where is the boss found? How does the fight initiate? E.g. End Portal: The boss is found in it's own dimension, The Land of Screams. The fight is initiated the moment you enter the Land of Scream (LoS)
Arena: The Land of Screams (LoS)
What does the area you fight the boss in look like? What parts of the environment could you or the boss use to your advantages? E.g. The End. It would look similar to the nether only no lava lakes, lit entirely by lightstone, no mobs except the screamer, roughly spherical and about 60x60x60 in size.
Movement type: The screamer moves on the ground. But it can climb walls and hang from ceilings. When on the ground it walks on its legs, but when on the walls and roof it uses only its arms.
Method of attack: When the screamer sees the player, it will emit a terrifying scream, it's brain will start swelling, getting bigger and smaller like a breathing lung. It will then run at the player at a speed equivalent to 1.5 times sprinting speed. As it runs towards you, it's hands will catch fire and it will start to throw fireballs at you. These deal 2 hearts damage and have a 30% chance of setting the player on fire. When the screamer reaches you, it will start trying to punch you with all of it's arms. If one of these punches connects, the player will be dealt 3.5 hearts of damage and get knocked back 3-5 blocks.
Effects on landscape: The screamer has no major effects on the landscape, all it does is set the netherack on fire when it shoots it's fireballs.
Vulnerabilities/defeating
After the screamer has charged and swung at you, it will stumble in a random direction, while this is happening, it is at it's most vulnerable. If the player hits it's brain it will deal double damage and slow down it's charge to a little bit faster then walking speed.
Death/death animation
When the screamer dies, it will look up at the ceiling, start waving it's arms about and scream even louder. Then it's body parts will begin to shake, and finally the entire thing will explode into flames.
Drops
The screamer drops 3 items. 5-10 screamerskin which can be used to craft screamer gloves, which when held, allow the player to climb vertical walls, 2-4 screamerface, which can be crafted with a jack-o-lantern and placed as a scarecrow that repels all mobs except bosses for a 10x10 square around it. The final drop is a scream orb, which when placed in the crafting grid with 2 magma cores will create a nether core which is an element for a nether pearl. During this process, the scream orb is NOT consumed.
Okay, So I've got the crafting concepts I mentioned at the end of that post. The one to create the nether core is this. Note, for this picture the magma cream is magma core and the ender pearls is the scream orb. http://imgur.com/vvurp,qW4PV This creates a nether core, which you then place in the crafting grid like this. Note, for this picture the magma cream is still magma cores, but the ender pearl is just an enderpearl. http://imgur.com/vvurp,qW4PV#1.
I'm mainly looking for feedback on the nether pearl crafting concept here. Although any on the boss is more then welcome.
Cucumber
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
No worries, it's fine :smile.gif:. Maybe the 1 or 2 of the original mob could spawn as the nether bosses minions? Any thoughts on the crafting concept?
BTW I love your new avatar XD
Cucumber
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
No worries, it's fine :smile.gif:. Maybe the 1 or 2 of the original mob could spawn as the nether bosses minions? Any thoughts on the crafting concept?
BTW I love your new avatar XD
Cucumber
Maybe, there do need to be more boss "minions" I guess.;
And yes, my avatar is quite humorous! I like it too! :smile.gif:
Yeah, we could have boss minions for each boss, Mermen and mermaids with tridents for "The Deep", A few screamers for the Nether and maybe some evil angles or some eagles or something like that for the sky dimension. I've got no idea about the overworld though.
Cucumber
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Yeah, we could have boss minions for each boss, Mermen and mermaids with tridents for "The Deep", A few screamers for the Nether and maybe some evil angles or some eagles or something like that for the sky dimension. I've got no idea about the overworld though.
Cucumber
Overworld could have a 2x2x2 block that looks like a floating, flaming creeper head. It makes sounds like a zombie and randomly spawns a block of primed tnt every 10 seconds or so. It has 3 hearts but moves fast so is hard to hit except when it stops for a second to spawn the tnt. When you kill it it drops a normal tnt plus a 10% chance of dropping 1 bucket of lava. When it dies it shrinks into a single block then explodes. + if you like the idea.
yes, water in the WD is going to make things dark either based on altitude, or 10 blocks of water = 1 light level. Also, light level 20 doesn't exist, only level 15, like sunlight or glowstone.
keep in mind, I'm not against red steel and its counterparts, but they shouldn't need overworld materials for something only useful in 1 dimension
Also, each dimension having its own gem seems nice to me. Overworld has diamond (if you need a different one use emerald), Nether has ruby, skylands has opal, and WD has sapphire, and The End, of course, has onyx.
Jello posted something about what were the skylands' ores and I was answering him, also the Purine thing doesn't just work with diamond, it works with all ores
Also I'm not sure if this is possible, but I was thinking of putting my original post in again and asking people to put a :smile.gif: , :mellow.gif: , or :sad.gif: next to the ideas, and to post some of their own.
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I have been trying to get a java expert in here for a while, I am well aware of some of the technical limitations already and have been actively trying to find solutions for them.
And this will probably become a mod, but if jeb wants to add anything from this, he can :wink.gif:
Don't worry, I have found solution for that. We just need to adapt this into our mod when we start making it.
Sweet! All we need now is a seaweed sprite and the recipes are ready to be accepted!
Interesting ideas, but we aren't going to include the Aether in our mod. It tried to be too much at once and failed IMO.
Full of glowing crystals when broken turn into materials and it full of Diamond Trees! Also the portal to this world is only unlucked when you have a nether portal looking figure but it has to be made out of diamond blocks.
Crystal dust is used in potion making
Diamond Trees: Can only be harvested with a Diamond Pick (see i made with no shortcuts to diamond heaven).
Add more if you like
Did you even read the OP? It says in first few lines that we do not want a dimension made of diamonds and that we want dimensions that will fit in with the rest of minecraft. Neither Notch nor Jeb nor any other good game developer would EVER think for two seconds about adding a dimension (or biome or anything else) made out of diamonds, even if it is a huge pain to get to, even if it is super hostile, it does not make a difference. It is either overpowered or just one of those things that people forget about, like slimes used to be, like squids, like pumpkins used to be, etc.
We need 3d modelers to help on Spirit Realm+!
There will not be a "crystalland", I can assure you that.
I'm mainly looking for feedback on the nether pearl crafting concept here. Although any on the boss is more then welcome.
Cucumber
Still a little meh, even though it's a boss.
It just doesn't feel right to me, a player sized boss just sort of sounds like HEROBRUHN but re-named you know?
Cucumber
Yes, but this one makes everything I post at least 100% more hilarious.
Still doesn't sit well with me, sorry :sad.gif:
BTW I love your new avatar XD
Cucumber
Maybe, there do need to be more boss "minions" I guess.;
And yes, my avatar is quite humorous! I like it too! :smile.gif:
Cucumber
Overworld could have a 2x2x2 block that looks like a floating, flaming creeper head. It makes sounds like a zombie and randomly spawns a block of primed tnt every 10 seconds or so. It has 3 hearts but moves fast so is hard to hit except when it stops for a second to spawn the tnt. When you kill it it drops a normal tnt plus a 10% chance of dropping 1 bucket of lava. When it dies it shrinks into a single block then explodes. + if you like the idea.
OT: Nope.avi. This would be a bit weird. Oh and gypsy I'm sure this is you.
Cucumber
Jello posted something about what were the skylands' ores and I was answering him, also the Purine thing doesn't just work with diamond, it works with all ores
Also I'm not sure if this is possible, but I was thinking of putting my original post in again and asking people to put a :smile.gif: , :mellow.gif: , or :sad.gif: next to the ideas, and to post some of their own.