Anyone got any ideas for new nether mobs and or dungeons?
Not sure what called but:
Maybe a squid like thing, but with more tenticles, it is a deep red colour and swims in the lava lakes. You can only just see the top of it as it swims near the top. If you go close enough to it (25 blocks?) it will lash out it's tenticles and drag you into the lava. The only way to kill it is if you kill all the tenticles seperately, if it has no tenticles, it will sink to the bottom of the lava lake and wehen it hits the bottom, it dies.
Maybe for a boss, a lava worm (although, in minecraft spelt wurm, just for awesomeness)? Just a though?
if i went around saying ideas were stupid just because there was a mod that was simular t the idea then i would have posted alot, and i would have looked really stupid and broke alot of rules. Well, looks like ladder, wolves, tall grass, and that stuff has to be removed from minecraft because it was a mod before it was added :/
1. Maiking an Aether realm sounds really stupid since the Aether mod already exists...It is nor updated though. And when/if it gets updated, 2. just make them compatible!
(I see this as an WIP mod)
And besides, just because theres a mod doesn't mean people are going to use it.
2. No, the whole idea behind this thread is to have all the dimensions have an some sort oforder to them. I don't want people to have to download 2 different mods just to experiance our vision for the game. We are most likely going to try and get a hold of the mod team for the Aether mod and have them get on board with us.
eventually once this thread evolves enough, yes we will make a mod for it. It will definately be a lot of work, but if it is anything like what I had in mind when I created this thread, it's gonna be epic.
You would build a rocket of course with a door to get in it.
you have to have Coal, Redstone, Diamond, bucket of lava and the eye of ender with you.
and content from the Nether and the End.
the rocket will then take you to the moon, where you can get 'Moon dust'
and on the moon, you fight aliens while you try to get the the boss.
the boss is in a huge cave fortress deep within the moon.
Where you can get Moon Dust from.
with the boss are 100's of other aliens attacking you,
preventing you from escaping with their moondust.
The dust would be GREEN.
You can only achieve this with Diamond Armor and sword.
or maybe combine contents from Diamond, Nether and The End worlds.
to create a stronger armor than diamond armor for this moon trip.
and it can only be used on the moon.
Remember the contents you needed before going to the moon?
thats so you can get back....
you would still die of starvation because there are no food resources in the Nether.
and the food you bring will sooner or later fall thin.
and the tools dont stack up. so not much room to bring lots of food.
So there has to be some sort of food resources in the nether.
Before they had Steaks that would drop when you kill a zombie there.
but now its just rotten flesh (which sucks).
which is poison too, unless you bring milk.
maybe if they brought back the steaks. that would improve this idea.
maybe a 2 in 10 chance of dropping several steaks from a kill.
Maybe having many hidden chest's that you have to find, that will have food for you to survive
there would be great.
portal is static and is only unlocked after going to nether and defeating the Ender dragon. The portal should be that like negitive blue color you get when you invert the color of a picture in paint. The NegaRim is a combined Boss/exploration world. The NegaRim is identical to the over world BUT is always night, the moon is red, and all the colors are slightly distorted. The NegaRim is where all the Evil Mobs come from at night so the NegaRim is FILLED with hostile mobs all except Endermen because their from the End relm. their should also be one or two extra mobs that server as gards of the NegaRim like a Smoke Phantom which can only be killed with an enchanted sword or a potion of harm. The Smoke Phantom will posses you can you will slowly take damage as he slowly makes his way to the nearest hostile mob he is made up of smoke partials, fly's and can pass through walls. Also i think Their should be Players their but they should be dark and evil and in SMP they are the players from the real world as well as extras with random names like Jack, Marcus, Ext. The Boss whould be YOU the anti version of you. This makes sense considering that the End story says that you make this universe with your own mind so why is their **** trying to kill you? well in your mind you want to grow, build, and make the world look awesome. but The Lord of the NegaRim wants to distory , burn and purify the over world as he has done to his )or her) Negarelm. To Summon the Nega Lord you have to place a block in the over world that is crafted from Glowstone, Endstone, Netherrack, diamonds and Obsidian. and then find it in the NegaRim and distroy it once that happends 6 towers will generate around the NegaRim and the Over World. You would have to find the first 6 minor towers in the OverWorld and activate them them and finaly the 7th tower will rise and that one you would have to activate in the NegaRim when that happens out of the top of the towers energy will shoot into the sky and the Nega Lord will spawn in front on you with the same armor and wepons that you have but a bit stronger you will have to place blocks and use your wit to defeat him when you do all the Hostile mobs in the NegaRim and the Over world will be distroyed and you will get his Nega Armor and and nega sword!
One thing that needs improving about the nether is the want to stay and settle there.
What I suggest are Portlions (name may need changing). These are purple scorpion like creature which rarely spawn around nether-portals (generally after 5 minutes of activation).
They have an attack which injects nether venom into the player. The venom poisons the player lowering his health quickly to half a heart while the same thing happens to your hunger bar.
However after about 1 day the venom really kicks in. Endermen and Wild wolves become hostile on sight, your breath bar empties quicker. After 1 in game month (8 Minecraft days) you burn in the sunlight and have no breath in water.
The only way to cure this (as if you die you respawn in the nether by your portal with the infliction) is via finding the rare Magmabloom flower. This ca be distilled into a potion. It takes 1 to cure you on easy, 2 on normal and 3 on hard (from there being 3 bottle from the stand)
What is the point of this.
It stops people flicking between the dimensions just to get supplies and rare items. It also means they are more likely to set up bases in the nether and go out exploring for the Magmabloom flowers just in case.
What do you guys think.
That is way too OP bro. No matter what the cause, that is just not gonna happen.
Having a scorpion mob does seem pretty cool though. Whether it's in the nether, or in the overworld, I want to have scorpions! Just make sure they are normal mobs though.
Also, just for clarification purposes, Non-static portals only work in the overworld, dimension to dimension travel might get complicated to code with Non-static portals. I might be wrong though(please correct me if You are code savvy)
portal is static and is only unlocked after going to nether and defeating the Ender dragon. The portal should be that like negitive blue color you get when you invert the color of a picture in paint. The NegaRim is a combined Boss/exploration world. The NegaRim is identical to the over world BUT is always night, the moon is red, and all the colors are slightly distorted. The NegaRim is where all the Evil Mobs come from at night so the NegaRim is FILLED with hostile mobs all except Endermen because their from the End relm. their should also be one or two extra mobs that server as gards of the NegaRim like a Smoke Phantom which can only be killed with an enchanted sword or a potion of harm. The Smoke Phantom will posses you can you will slowly take damage as he slowly makes his way to the nearest hostile mob he is made up of smoke partials, fly's and can pass through walls. Also i think Their should be Players their but they should be dark and evil and in SMP they are the players from the real world as well as extras with random names like Jack, Marcus, Ext. The Boss whould be YOU the anti version of you. This makes sense considering that the End story says that you make this universe with your own mind so why is their **** trying to kill you? well in your mind you want to grow, build, and make the world look awesome. but The Lord of the NegaRim wants to distory , burn and purify the over world as he has done to his )or her) Negarelm. To Summon the Nega Lord you have to place a block in the over world that is crafted from Glowstone, Endstone, Netherrack, diamonds and Obsidian. and then find it in the NegaRim and distroy it once that happends 6 towers will generate around the NegaRim and the Over World. You would have to find the first 6 minor towers in the OverWorld and activate them them and finaly the 7th tower will rise and that one you would have to activate in the NegaRim when that happens out of the top of the towers energy will shoot into the sky and the Nega Lord will spawn in front on you with the same armor and wepons that you have but a bit stronger you will have to place blocks and use your wit to defeat him when you do all the Hostile mobs in the NegaRim and the Over world will be distroyed and you will get his Nega Armor and and nega sword!
dat wall of text...
I think we should get a grasp on the main dimensions first before we start considering side dimensions.
The precursor to this thread was a topic that I posted on Get Satisfaction a while ago regarding how there would be five dimensions and five elements one for each dimension.
Nether was fire
Water dimension was water ( duh)
Aether was air
The End was void
The overworld was earth
I still plan on having those as the five main dimensions, but there could be other side dimensions as well. The plant dimension being maybe a jungle or something?
As for rockets too the moon. We no do rocket ships, we are minecrafters and we Think with portals
The rocket can act as a portal once built.
A portal can be any structure built that Mojang see's fit.
you build the rocket, hop inside of it and close the trap door.
Make sure you have the required materials needed to get to the moon.
and pooof portal to the moon and kill some aliens to grab some Green Moon Dust.
:smile.gif:
Watchout..!! behind you, thousands of green creepers..!!
Ruuuuuunnnnnnn.........
I like all of your ideas, but how would the "level 2" furnace work? Would you craft the special block with it, or smelt the special block in it?
Ya,
Smelting Obsidian to make Obsidian tools would be great.
and at level 2 for the furnace, maybe let us mine, Copper, Titanium, Plutonium, Marble, Limestone, granite,
aluminum, Mercury, oil and even smelt lava to get Magma
and even nether Bricks and Ender material to make new tools.
I like the Better Than Wolves solution to survival in the Nether. You have to craft some sort of tree that can survive in the Nether, and use that as your source of wood. You could grow Mushrooms as food.
Ya,
Smelting Obsidian to make Obsidian tools would be great.
and at level 2 for the furnace, maybe let us mine, Copper, Titanium, Plutonium, Marble, Limestone, granite,
and even nether Bricks and Ender material to make new tools.
that would be cool..
Wait, really? Copper? Copper would be the lowest tear metal if anything. Marble is purely decorative, limestone is a common rock and I believe the stone we already have is granite.
The precursor to this thread was a topic that I posted on Get Satisfaction a while ago regarding how there would be five dimensions and five elements one for each dimension.
Nether was fire
Water dimension was water ( duh)
Aether was air
The End was void
The overworld was earth
I still plan on having those as the five main dimensions, but there could be other side dimensions as well. The plant dimension being maybe a jungle or something?
Who says there should be five main dimensions? I mean, there are other interesting distinct ideas out there for dimension that I think could merit being a proper dimension in their own right and not just some little side dimension, like that mazeworld idea that was all the rage a while back.
Your model seems to follow the classical Greek elements. From what I can tell, yes, the Nether is a dimension of fire, darkness, and earth, so categorizing it as a fire dimension sort of makes sense, though there's definitely that darkness to it as well. Ironically enough, the word aether in relation to the elements is more in line with the ender realm (this sort of "void" or "celestial" element) than an actual air world. Bit of a misnomer, but I'm not really a fan of the way the aether mod was designed anyway, so hey.
However, I wouldn't jump to the immediate conclusion that the overworld is an earth dimension in of itself. Most of it is now *gasp* water, at least on the surface, because of those enormous oceans. It also contains lava pools deep underground, which seem like more a fire thing. Not to mention the abundance of air... it is very earth like in the sense that it is similar to the planet earth, but that's not really the same thing as a proper dimension devoted to the earth element.
Interestingly enough, if you look at the ancient Chinese elements, they have metal and wood instead of air. I'm not really sure what a wood dimension would entail, or if it would suddenly become a horrible dirty joke, but a metal dimension would be interesting. Kind of like Mirrodin, a world composed largely of metal.
The trouble with a water world is there's very little visibility in water and you can't really stay underwater very long, not to mention that your mobility is decreased significantly.
Granted, there are also other sorts of elements like light, dark, and ice, that aren't included in the Greek model. Just some interesting thoughts.
Not sure what called but:
Maybe a squid like thing, but with more tenticles, it is a deep red colour and swims in the lava lakes. You can only just see the top of it as it swims near the top. If you go close enough to it (25 blocks?) it will lash out it's tenticles and drag you into the lava. The only way to kill it is if you kill all the tenticles seperately, if it has no tenticles, it will sink to the bottom of the lava lake and wehen it hits the bottom, it dies.
Maybe for a boss, a lava worm (although, in minecraft spelt wurm, just for awesomeness)? Just a though?
CLICK HIM
1. Read the rules bro.
And besides, just because theres a mod doesn't mean people are going to use it.
2. No, the whole idea behind this thread is to have all the dimensions have an some sort oforder to them. I don't want people to have to download 2 different mods just to experiance our vision for the game. We are most likely going to try and get a hold of the mod team for the Aether mod and have them get on board with us.
eventually once this thread evolves enough, yes we will make a mod for it. It will definately be a lot of work, but if it is anything like what I had in mind when I created this thread, it's gonna be epic.
I just wanted to add some drama :wink.gif:
You would build a rocket of course with a door to get in it.
you have to have Coal, Redstone, Diamond, bucket of lava and the eye of ender with you.
and content from the Nether and the End.
the rocket will then take you to the moon, where you can get 'Moon dust'
and on the moon, you fight aliens while you try to get the the boss.
the boss is in a huge cave fortress deep within the moon.
Where you can get Moon Dust from.
with the boss are 100's of other aliens attacking you,
preventing you from escaping with their moondust.
The dust would be GREEN.
You can only achieve this with Diamond Armor and sword.
or maybe combine contents from Diamond, Nether and The End worlds.
to create a stronger armor than diamond armor for this moon trip.
and it can only be used on the moon.
Remember the contents you needed before going to the moon?
thats so you can get back....
:smile.gif:
and the food you bring will sooner or later fall thin.
and the tools dont stack up. so not much room to bring lots of food.
So there has to be some sort of food resources in the nether.
Before they had Steaks that would drop when you kill a zombie there.
but now its just rotten flesh (which sucks).
which is poison too, unless you bring milk.
maybe if they brought back the steaks. that would improve this idea.
maybe a 2 in 10 chance of dropping several steaks from a kill.
Maybe having many hidden chest's that you have to find, that will have food for you to survive
there would be great.
portal is static and is only unlocked after going to nether and defeating the Ender dragon. The portal should be that like negitive blue color you get when you invert the color of a picture in paint. The NegaRim is a combined Boss/exploration world. The NegaRim is identical to the over world BUT is always night, the moon is red, and all the colors are slightly distorted. The NegaRim is where all the Evil Mobs come from at night so the NegaRim is FILLED with hostile mobs all except Endermen because their from the End relm. their should also be one or two extra mobs that server as gards of the NegaRim like a Smoke Phantom which can only be killed with an enchanted sword or a potion of harm. The Smoke Phantom will posses you can you will slowly take damage as he slowly makes his way to the nearest hostile mob he is made up of smoke partials, fly's and can pass through walls. Also i think Their should be Players their but they should be dark and evil and in SMP they are the players from the real world as well as extras with random names like Jack, Marcus, Ext. The Boss whould be YOU the anti version of you. This makes sense considering that the End story says that you make this universe with your own mind so why is their **** trying to kill you? well in your mind you want to grow, build, and make the world look awesome. but The Lord of the NegaRim wants to distory , burn and purify the over world as he has done to his )or her) Negarelm. To Summon the Nega Lord you have to place a block in the over world that is crafted from Glowstone, Endstone, Netherrack, diamonds and Obsidian. and then find it in the NegaRim and distroy it once that happends 6 towers will generate around the NegaRim and the Over World. You would have to find the first 6 minor towers in the OverWorld and activate them them and finaly the 7th tower will rise and that one you would have to activate in the NegaRim when that happens out of the top of the towers energy will shoot into the sky and the Nega Lord will spawn in front on you with the same armor and wepons that you have but a bit stronger you will have to place blocks and use your wit to defeat him when you do all the Hostile mobs in the NegaRim and the Over world will be distroyed and you will get his Nega Armor and and nega sword!
That is way too OP bro. No matter what the cause, that is just not gonna happen.
Having a scorpion mob does seem pretty cool though. Whether it's in the nether, or in the overworld, I want to have scorpions! Just make sure they are normal mobs though.
Also, just for clarification purposes, Non-static portals only work in the overworld, dimension to dimension travel might get complicated to code with Non-static portals. I might be wrong though(please correct me if You are code savvy)
dat wall of text...
I think we should get a grasp on the main dimensions first before we start considering side dimensions.
The precursor to this thread was a topic that I posted on Get Satisfaction a while ago regarding how there would be five dimensions and five elements one for each dimension.
Nether was fire
Water dimension was water ( duh)
Aether was air
The End was void
The overworld was earth
I still plan on having those as the five main dimensions, but there could be other side dimensions as well. The plant dimension being maybe a jungle or something?
And the water dimension has been classified as the Kyther multiple times.
Just thought I would point that out.
Edit:
Also, this is something that I suggested awhile back.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/125619-a-realm-of-darkness-the-nyx-update-and-redo/
The rocket can act as a portal once built.
A portal can be any structure built that Mojang see's fit.
you build the rocket, hop inside of it and close the trap door.
Make sure you have the required materials needed to get to the moon.
and pooof portal to the moon and kill some aliens to grab some Green Moon Dust.
:smile.gif:
Watchout..!! behind you, thousands of green creepers..!!
Ruuuuuunnnnnnn.........
:biggrin.gif:
Static means stationary, not dynamic which means movable.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/static
The general idea of "static" portals is that you cannot move them, or create them in any way without the use of hacks/mods.
Though I guess I could re-name "non-static" portals Dynamic portals.
Derp, sorry, I meant to say Non-Static = Dynamic.
My bad.
Oh, ok.
Dynamic does sound like a better name, I'll change it as soon as I can.
Ya,
Smelting Obsidian to make Obsidian tools would be great.
and at level 2 for the furnace, maybe let us mine, Copper, Titanium, Plutonium, Marble, Limestone, granite,
aluminum, Mercury, oil and even smelt lava to get Magma
and even nether Bricks and Ender material to make new tools.
that would be cool..
Wait, really? Copper? Copper would be the lowest tear metal if anything. Marble is purely decorative, limestone is a common rock and I believe the stone we already have is granite.
Who says there should be five main dimensions? I mean, there are other interesting distinct ideas out there for dimension that I think could merit being a proper dimension in their own right and not just some little side dimension, like that mazeworld idea that was all the rage a while back.
Your model seems to follow the classical Greek elements. From what I can tell, yes, the Nether is a dimension of fire, darkness, and earth, so categorizing it as a fire dimension sort of makes sense, though there's definitely that darkness to it as well. Ironically enough, the word aether in relation to the elements is more in line with the ender realm (this sort of "void" or "celestial" element) than an actual air world. Bit of a misnomer, but I'm not really a fan of the way the aether mod was designed anyway, so hey.
However, I wouldn't jump to the immediate conclusion that the overworld is an earth dimension in of itself. Most of it is now *gasp* water, at least on the surface, because of those enormous oceans. It also contains lava pools deep underground, which seem like more a fire thing. Not to mention the abundance of air... it is very earth like in the sense that it is similar to the planet earth, but that's not really the same thing as a proper dimension devoted to the earth element.
Interestingly enough, if you look at the ancient Chinese elements, they have metal and wood instead of air. I'm not really sure what a wood dimension would entail, or if it would suddenly become a horrible dirty joke, but a metal dimension would be interesting. Kind of like Mirrodin, a world composed largely of metal.
The trouble with a water world is there's very little visibility in water and you can't really stay underwater very long, not to mention that your mobility is decreased significantly.
Granted, there are also other sorts of elements like light, dark, and ice, that aren't included in the Greek model. Just some interesting thoughts.
It's something I suggested awhile back.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/125619-a-realm-of-darkness-the-nyx-update-and-redo/