what all biomes need in general is more features of other biomes, because what makes them all ugly is the lack of variety
really what other feature is there to the swamps? just the occassional pit and water hazard, what the swamps need are goliaths (those rare trees you grow from time to time) and some hills that can go either up then down or just drop off entirely, some vines that line said pits and more suggar cane sticking up to obscure your vision, and really thats what best describes all swamps in general obscure, you don't know where your going and your always confused and capturing that would greatly help this biom entirely
what all biomes need in general is more features of other biomes, because what makes them all ugly is the lack of variety
really what other feature is there to the swamps? just the occassional pit and water hazard, what the swamps need are goliaths (those rare trees you grow from time to time) and some hills that can go either up then down or just drop off entirely, some vines that line said pits and more suggar cane sticking up to obscure your vision, and really thats what best describes all swamps in general obscure, you don't know where your going and your always confused and capturing that would greatly help this biom entirely
Thank you. You have provided a way to move foward that actually makes sense, not just "They don't look pretty, Wahhhhhh!!!". You have made me recalculate my feelings about this topic. I am now unchanged. Your description of swamps actually makes sense, and I like how you veiw them. So, I have retracted my vote from the poll and will watch this to see whether I actually want the swamp changed, or the current fix is enough. Thank you for your time.
i happen to like the gloomy feel of the swamplands. its my favorite biome, actually.
but it does definately need some work.
the transition is horrible, and simply adding mud blocks and something along the lines of cattail, would make a world of difference.
maybe even sky color changes when entering different biomes... but thats more an overall idea that would be great for any biome.
perhaps even some will-o'-the-wisp particle effects. (that would be ghostly swamp lights caused by gas produced by composting vegetation spontaniously igniting, with some interesting mythology behind it)
I think the both of you didn't get what the petition is about, so I'll say it once again:
We do NOT want the appearance, color, variety or anything of the swamps changed or removed. The only thing this petition is about is that the swamps have a colored overlay that is hardcoded, which means that it can not be changed by a texture pack unless we install a mod to allow that. The petition is for removing the hardcoded overlay to allow texture pack creators to edit the swamps as they see fit.
The OP is not really up to date, as there have been some improvements made to the swamps by MOJANG in the last few patches and the OP simply never got updated. I asked Steelfeathers about that and instead of updating it, he started a poll to see if the thread still has reason to continue. Imho the result already shows that it has, so I hope Feathers will update it soon xD
Why is that? The title of this post is THE SWAMPS STILL LOOK UGLY. I may agree with this, I may disagree with this. In one hand, the swamps can be improved so that they are this dynamic, changing, beautiful, scary, etc. biome (like in real life) and that could be how the swamps are made un-ugly(time consuming). Or you utter idiots can get your way and they can be turned into glittering fairyvilles (not true whatsoever). OR we could just give modders their way and have a mandatory download for both of these ideas (stupid). Besides, if you don't like swamps there would be NO OTHER WAY for you to change it other than get a texture pack that totally ruins the feel of the entire game. So I would say that this is a perfectly good place to post our ideas for the un-ugliment (is that a word?) of swamps no?
really what other feature is there to the swamps? just the occassional pit and water hazard, what the swamps need are goliaths (those rare trees you grow from time to time) and some hills that can go either up then down or just drop off entirely, some vines that line said pits and more suggar cane sticking up to obscure your vision, and really thats what best describes all swamps in general obscure, you don't know where your going and your always confused and capturing that would greatly help this biom entirely
/ signed Eaon
p.s. just as an aside about other biomes
mountains need trees and snow
deserts need cannyons and oasis
oceans need sunken ships and watery ruins
plains need the occasional tree
and snowy tundras need mountains
you see? it all should come full circle
Thank you. You have provided a way to move foward that actually makes sense, not just "They don't look pretty, Wahhhhhh!!!". You have made me recalculate my feelings about this topic. I am now unchanged. Your description of swamps actually makes sense, and I like how you veiw them. So, I have retracted my vote from the poll and will watch this to see whether I actually want the swamp changed, or the current fix is enough. Thank you for your time.
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the transition is horrible, and simply adding mud blocks and something along the lines of cattail, would make a world of difference.
maybe even sky color changes when entering different biomes... but thats more an overall idea that would be great for any biome.
perhaps even some will-o'-the-wisp particle effects. (that would be ghostly swamp lights caused by gas produced by composting vegetation spontaniously igniting, with some interesting mythology behind it)
Why is that? The title of this post is THE SWAMPS STILL LOOK UGLY. I may agree with this, I may disagree with this. In one hand, the swamps can be improved so that they are this dynamic, changing, beautiful, scary, etc. biome (like in real life) and that could be how the swamps are made un-ugly(time consuming). Or you utter idiots can get your way and they can be turned into glittering fairyvilles (not true whatsoever). OR we could just give modders their way and have a mandatory download for both of these ideas (stupid). Besides, if you don't like swamps there would be NO OTHER WAY for you to change it other than get a texture pack that totally ruins the feel of the entire game. So I would say that this is a perfectly good place to post our ideas for the un-ugliment (is that a word?) of swamps no?
This guy, im telling you. You have a rep to die for.
Have good grammar. Save us tiem.