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Of course this game is awesome, that's why i betatest it during more than a year, I bought it with great joy, offered it to friends, made the more publicity that i could. But this is bad publicity in itself. If a buying customer have to change is saved game every month or so, he will just stop playing...
Mojang have to stop changing the generation code or make it so that the player can still use is old save.
And the other thing is, in a beta version it can be argued that the save games are not guaranteed to be stable until the next major modif. In a def version this is not something that can be done. The base of the game (and i think world generation is one of the base of this game) has to be stable, or at least, the continuation of a saved game have to be guaranteed to a player.

I'm not aggressive about this, i'm just protesting on the fact that i'm forced to accept something that i'm entitled not to. Minecraft is no longer a small independant in-dev game that i'm supporting, although i'm glad i did, and very strangely proud of its overall success, but now it's a game i have payed for and want to play with for as long as I want to. Sorry if that's shoking to some, but i'm pressing my statement;you cannot make your clients start their game over and over or else, you may loose them.

i agree. my current map in 1.2.3, the latest, has a desert where the lines between desert and the surrounding forests is more neater than a knife. at the edge, the chunks of the desert are just sand and those beside them are of forest with straight borders. at some places, the smooth desert is a little higher than the forests and causes a wall of 4 block high. the swamps are not the only thing needing fixing...

Quote from Estelyen

I believe what you are talking about is what will happen if two areas of different terrain generation codes meet, I have seen that before. Of course I don't know your map, but I'll give example numbers: Probably the desert was generated in Beta 1.7 and the forest at a later patch, because there was a complete overhaul of the terrain generation code in Beta 1.8. Minecraft doesn't generate the whole map when you start a new game, it only generates the area around the player (or players in SMP) based on a number called the seed. The seed of any map didn't change with the patch, but the code that interprets it, thus, any landscape generated after the code update will turn out to be something completely different. If that is the issue in your case, you'll either just have to live with the jagged border or generate a completely new map which uses the new terrain generation in its entirety.

no. this was generated in 1.2. i upgraded to 1.2.3 a couple hours later.

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F YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, MOJANG HAS BEEN MAKING AWESOME GAMES FOR US! HOW IS THAT NO WAY TO TREAT CLIENTS! That post just urks me so much.

It's "irk". And yeah they've made a nice game, but that doesn't abrogate their responsibility to listen to customers. Since, y'know, those customers paid for the game. It's not like it was a gift from Mojang.

Anyway sure some people have overreacted. But I am disappointed that there is still this (and other) hardcoded overlays in the game. So many things are done better by modders it's sort of depressing. Especially since mod makers eventually get tired and move on

Hey, I discovered something interesting. If you have the grass be actually green in your terrain.png, swamps actually look, well, green! Seems to override other biome coloring though :/

needs crocodiles

/signed the swamps are ridiculous IGN:poopman600

/signed

/Signed
MCPatcher fix really isn't enough.

I suppor this 100%.
/signed

The colour used in swamps itself contrasts too harshly with the rest of Minecraft's colour scheme

/signed

GET OVER IT.

For crying out loud, its how most swamps look like in real life. So stop moaning and get a texture pack. Other people like me don't give a damn about the swamps. We walk through them, do whatever we need to do in them and LEAVE. So STOP MOANING. You may think this reply is ugly, but it's here to stay. Same with the swamps. The swamps are ugly, (to you) but they're HERE TO STAY.

Quote from aminecraftguy00

So stop moaning and get a texture pack.

You are aware that the color is hardcoded in, right?

I think swamps are fine the way they are. If you have actually seen a swamp before, you'd know they are pretty ugly anyway, so an ugly swamp in-game looks the same as an ugly swamp IRL. The transitions have been sorted out to the best of Mojangs ability. As for random patches of grey water in rivers and things, that would be difficult to fix and would involve re-doing a lot of biome code. if you don't like swamps, I'll say what i say
to people who don't like NPC villages and other things: JUST AVOID THEM.
(Disclamer: I take no responsibility for any wrong information in this post.)

Quote from Estelyen

You are probably either an illiterate or a slacker who didn't read the OP. We would really LOVE to use a texture pack to change the swamps, but with an overlay hardcoded in, using a texturepack will not change the color of the swamps UNLESS we install a mod as well. And that's what this petition is about; NOT changing the swamp color in vanilla. L2Read xD
And about the people who don't give a damn about swamps like you: Fine if that's your opinion, I respect that. But there are people who have built an elaborate project somewhere on their map BEFORE the swamps got a hardcoded color. With the addition of the hardcoded overlay, the project suddenly got totally ruined because it appeared right in the middle of where they were building.

I didn't bother to read through the texture pack explanations because i didn't want to read through over 100 pages of people complaining.

for you and for people who share my point of view.

Quote from okmujnyhb

I think swamps are fine the way they are. If you have actually seen a swamp before, you'd know they are pretty ugly anyway, so an ugly swamp in-game looks the same as an ugly swamp IRL. The transitions have been sorted out to the best of Mojangs ability. As for random patches of grey water in rivers and things, that would be difficult to fix and would involve re-doing a lot of biome code. if you don't like swamps, I'll say what i say
to people who don't like NPC villages and other things: JUST AVOID THEM.
(Disclamer: I take no responsibility for any wrong information in this post.)

I agree. If you dont like something in minecraft, just avoid it instead of posting 100 pages of moaning about swamps.

The swamp is very ugly right now still. It needs to be just a little lighter. Also,when i see a swamp,i am jelly:http://ujellybro.com/

Quote from aminecraftguy00

I didn't bother to read through the texture pack explanations because i didn't want to read through over 100 pages of people complaining.

It's in the fricking OP. It's point 2 of 2 in the quote and in the banners. If you can't be assed to read the OP then, FFS, don't reply to the thread. Kindly take your TL;DR ignorance elsewhere.

ever since the biome transition smoothen update, this topic felt useless.

I think the swamps are better now. They don't need to be changed.

Quote from UnileggerDripper222

ever since the biome transition smoothen update, this topic felt useless.

I think the swamps are better now. They don't need to be changed.

We're still waiting on that texture pack compatibility. (You know, those things people use when they don't want to be stuck with someone else's opinion of "good".)