So this might or might not be a completely stupid idea, depending on what you think. But this might be helpful for future modding. Anyway, got this inspiration from when I dye wools together. It's a one way process. You dye the wool, you get stuck with a whole bunch of yellow blocks because you used the wrong dye. This is why we need an extractor.
So what this does is that it can extract dyes out from wool or to split a secondary color dye up. (That means dyes made of other colored dyes, if you're a noob and don't know what that means.) The interacting screen (oh, you now what I mean) will look exactly like a furnace, except that it has two outputs instead of one.
How the extractor works is like a furnace, except that it can also be powered by redstone. (Well come on, you have to admit that redstone is pretty useless if you're only using it to open doors.) By redstone I don't mean power it up, I mean put the redstone in the fuel box. The time it takes will probably be 15 seconds, because extracting in real life is a slow process and thus it should be slower than smelting in Minecraft (even if the game does break half the laws of science). Or maybe the time depends on what fuel you use, from wood being slowest to lava being fastest.
Let's be frank, if you're careful you won't need one of these things, but it can also be used as In-Case-Of-Emergency-More-Materials (ICOEMM). Say you're decorating your house with red wool but you only have orange dye. Since orange contain red, you can extract the red dye out of the orange and finish your house, then go hunting red flowers later. That way you won't go back in your house and find a creeper has spawned in some dark area that was supposed to be where you put the red wool.
My next suggestion is probably going to anger some people, but if we have an extractor, maybe we should be forced to make one to get iron. gold, lapis or diamond out of iron, gold, lapis and diamond blocks, respectively. I know what you're thinking. "OH, so now all my diamond blocks are waste until I have an extractor?" Let's count up the stats. In a world that you did everything legit, exactly how many blocks of gems you have lying around? The answer is probably zero. For some reason people like to have a whole bunch of chests instead of compressing the gems into blocks.
This post is actually becoming quite long and luckily there's no word limit, but there's one last thing to say before I end this: the crafting recipe. This is very important, otherwise we can't make the extractor. I have absolutely no idea what to use, but let's take ideas from real extractors:
1. A body (duh!)
2. A splitting device (made with iron?)
3. A sucking device (obsidian?)
4. Redstone
5. A detector to see how to extract an object (a pressure plate?)
6. A database ( a book?)
This is my idea (use the numbers above as reference):
(1)(1)(1)
(3)(6)(5)
(4)(2)(1)
EDIT: So here's my impression of the crafting recipe.
Hypothetical: You read a thread in the Suggestions forum. You suddenly realize you've seen the idea before. Maybe it's a duplicate? No. Maybe it's just you? No. Maybe it's been done already? Very likely: Click here if there's a mod for that.
Well... I have mixed feelings on this. This idea has been represented many times in different forms but it all has the same concept: Getting the materials back from a finished product. I would like to add this to the suggestion to make this a little more... Costly, because if you take a Diamond Chestplate that is almost completely used up and get all of the Diamonds back instantly? Well, that would make mining for more Diamonds almost pointless.
1. It would need to be fueled (coal = 1 use, bucket of lava = 4 uses, log = 0.1 use, etc.).
2. You wouldn't get a 100% return, only 33% (for example, extracting from an iron rail would only give 2 iron back instead of 6 and a stick).
3. Used tools and armor will not be able to be extracted from, to stop "refunds" from a 99% used Diamond Pickaxe for example.
4. Certain items cannot be extracted from (you can't extract 4 sticks to make 2 wooden planks or extract 4 planks to make 1 log, because seriously where did you suddenly get bark from?).
Ok, I think everyone is getting confused because there's "Reverse Crafting Bench" in the title. You cannot extract every single thing in the game, just certain objects. Seriously, even though Minecraft breaks half the laws of physics, the idea of getting diamonds from a pickaxe is just too absurd.
Don't worry, I'll listen to you :wink.gif:.
Anyway, I think this is a pretty good idea. But: I think the recipe should be simplfied, for, well, simplicity's sake. The recipe doesn't have to correspond perfectly to it's RL counterpart. Have you ever seen a jukebox IRL made out of 8 planks and a diamond? Me neither. So I propose this recipe: = redstone
Or something like that.
One question though: what happens if you put something in it that was made out of more than two different materials? (e.g. pistons)
Also, what happens to partially broken tools?
Edit:
Extract the components of an extractor with an extractor...
Extractorception
There's two outputs. Which means two different blocks will end up at the two different outputs.
It'd be kind of weird extracting entire cocoa beans from brown wool you got from a sheep.
Wait a minute... If there's iron in the recipe, and you would need one of these to get iron... That's a big problem.
You don't need one to get iron from iron ore, that will still rely on smelting. You just need it to get iron from iron blocks. Ore, block. Ore, block. Different.
You don't need one to get iron from iron ore, that will still rely on smelting. You just need it to get iron from iron blocks. Ore, block. Ore, block. Different.
So what this does is that it can extract dyes out from wool or to split a secondary color dye up. (That means dyes made of other colored dyes, if you're a noob and don't know what that means.) The interacting screen (oh, you now what I mean) will look exactly like a furnace, except that it has two outputs instead of one.
How the extractor works is like a furnace, except that it can also be powered by redstone. (Well come on, you have to admit that redstone is pretty useless if you're only using it to open doors.) By redstone I don't mean power it up, I mean put the redstone in the fuel box. The time it takes will probably be 15 seconds, because extracting in real life is a slow process and thus it should be slower than smelting in Minecraft (even if the game does break half the laws of science). Or maybe the time depends on what fuel you use, from wood being slowest to lava being fastest.
Let's be frank, if you're careful you won't need one of these things, but it can also be used as In-Case-Of-Emergency-More-Materials (ICOEMM). Say you're decorating your house with red wool but you only have orange dye. Since orange contain red, you can extract the red dye out of the orange and finish your house, then go hunting red flowers later. That way you won't go back in your house and find a creeper has spawned in some dark area that was supposed to be where you put the red wool.
My next suggestion is probably going to anger some people, but if we have an extractor, maybe we should be forced to make one to get iron. gold, lapis or diamond out of iron, gold, lapis and diamond blocks, respectively. I know what you're thinking. "OH, so now all my diamond blocks are waste until I have an extractor?" Let's count up the stats. In a world that you did everything legit, exactly how many blocks of gems you have lying around? The answer is probably zero. For some reason people like to have a whole bunch of chests instead of compressing the gems into blocks.
This post is actually becoming quite long and luckily there's no word limit, but there's one last thing to say before I end this: the crafting recipe. This is very important, otherwise we can't make the extractor. I have absolutely no idea what to use, but let's take ideas from real extractors:
1. A body (duh!)
2. A splitting device (made with iron?)
3. A sucking device (obsidian?)
4. Redstone
5. A detector to see how to extract an object (a pressure plate?)
6. A database ( a book?)
This is my idea (use the numbers above as reference):
(1)(1)(1)
(3)(6)(5)
(4)(2)(1)
EDIT: So here's my impression of the crafting recipe.
http://minecraftrecipedesigner.com/creations/53352.png
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Wait a minute... If there's iron in the recipe, and you would need one of these to get iron... That's a big problem.
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1. It would need to be fueled (coal = 1 use, bucket of lava = 4 uses, log = 0.1 use, etc.).
2. You wouldn't get a 100% return, only 33% (for example, extracting from an iron rail would only give 2 iron back instead of 6 and a stick).
3. Used tools and armor will not be able to be extracted from, to stop "refunds" from a 99% used Diamond Pickaxe for example.
4. Certain items cannot be extracted from (you can't extract 4 sticks to make 2 wooden planks or extract 4 planks to make 1 log, because seriously where did you suddenly get bark from?).
Anyways, I support if these conditions are met.
There's two outputs. Which means two different blocks will end up at the two different outputs.
You don't need one to get iron from iron ore, that will still rely on smelting. You just need it to get iron from iron blocks. Ore, block. Ore, block. Different.
Fail.