i am not trying to make this game more immature, simply to improve and add alternatives.
thats all.
in fact, im adding a new thing to do with manure that isnt yet in the game.
check it at the OP when im done.
slightly.
check out the new stuff i wrote.
also, i hope you dont still think im a troll.
Quote from kajio »
Changing the name does not fix the part about it being game-breaking, removing all trace of difficulty in farming or making brick houses.
1. game breaking how? please explain.
2. manure only shortens a sapling's growth by a day, and also just 1 stage of crops, bone meal grows saplings into trees at an instant, as well as crops.
3. ill go with you on that one, but in my defence its a complicated way of making just 1 brick out of the four needed to make 1 brick block.
it will take a while.
I still think it's unbalanced because you get these rewards with absolutely no effort, other than walking around looking for droppings (boring chore). There's also the problem that it's nothing unique, we're talking about redundant uses.
A brown, bracken bush that you could mash into a dye, use as fertilizer, build a house with, and have it not be an off-putting addition would still not be a good idea. It has little to do with the fact that adding manure is stupid, and more with the uses being poor.
Any realistic reasons to add manure are already covered, and if you stretch the uses of manure to make it fit into the game, then I'm sure you could think of something that makes more sense for that use and isn't childish.
I still think it's unbalanced because you get these rewards with absolutely no effort, other than walking around looking for droppings (boring chore). There's also the problem that it's nothing unique, we're talking about redundant uses.
now, this is where you (that includes you, the reader) come along!
its your "job" to help me refine my idea, throw out the bad parts, add good parts, and balance it!
as you can probably tell, i am not a game developer, and i dont have a degree in balacing things in the game.
but you can help with that!
can you think of anything to add?
if so, share!
i would love input!
Any realistic reasons to add manure are already covered, and if you stretch the uses of manure to make it fit into the game, then I'm sure you could think of something that makes more sense for that use and isn't childish.
thank you for the compliment, but part of it someone else whom i forgot his/her name (sorry, its written in the OP) deserves most of that compliment.
also, every use and special property of manure is realistic.
some are streched, yes, but thats to make it fit in minecraft.
nothing here is childish, i mean the romanians used to make fences with the stuff, and im sure they didnt think it was childish.
did you take a look at the other manure thread i put the link to @above?
now THATS childish, "poo armor and poo swords".
and hold on a sec, i just thought of another, realistic, idea.
brb.
You can't just say that animals should poop because that's realistic, it has to fit the game. There's no usage for it that I can think of that isn't already covered by something else, or can't be covered by an alternative.
You can't just say that animals should poop because that's realistic, it has to fit the game. There's no usage for it that I can think of that isn't already covered by something else, or can't be covered by an alternative.
but manure IS the alternative!
its a more primitive way of building, collecting seeds, attracting prey and other things i wrote i cant remember right now.
and since minecraft is set in the middle-ages, primitive=win?
anyway, signing off now untill tomorrow, its 9 PM.
good night.
You can't just say that animals should poop because that's realistic, it has to fit the game. There's no usage for it that I can think of that isn't already covered by something else, or can't be covered by an alternative.
but manure IS the alternative!
its a more primitive way of building, collecting seeds, attracting prey and other things i wrote i cant remember right now.
and since minecraft is set in the middle-ages, primitive=win?
anyway, signing off now untill tomorrow, its 9 PM.
good night.
The alternative to what?
Primitive building - use dirt
Collecting seeds - What's wrong with a hoe?
Attracting prey - I hope this is a joke
Minecraft has a neo-medieval fantasy setting similar to what you think of for most western RPGs. Poo shacks aren't really common in that setting.
You seem to be trying all too hard to find reasons why crap should be added. Why?
Quote from sniggyfigbat »
99% of minecraft is about different solutions to the same problem. So far, I haven't seen you post a single argument that outweighs the positive ones. At this point, you are the only person you are making look immature due to your inability to accept basic bodily functions. And, frankly, this impression isn't helped by your profile picture. You've had your say, it was bollocks, now accept defeat and stop being a troll. You're not contributing.
Not that he was pissing me off or anything...
How many ways are there to do anything? If you want coal, diamond, wheat, a bow, whatever there's really only one way to get it. Anyway that's not what this is about.
I've got no problem with adding manure to the game so long as it makes sense, which so far it doesn't to me.
Every usage that has been mentioned is already in the game as something else, or doesn't make sense.
Postives:
New ways to do things that are already possible
That's the only one that I've read so far
Negatives:
Redundancy
Throws game balance (fertilize crops without any risk/reward)
Stupidity, just my opinion
Now, I'm trying to argue my points without being rude, I'm just fighting for my side here.
You can't just say that animals should poop because that's realistic, it has to fit the game. There's no usage for it that I can think of that isn't already covered by something else, or can't be covered by an alternative.
but manure IS the alternative!
its a more primitive way of building, collecting seeds, attracting prey and other things i wrote i cant remember right now.
and since minecraft is set in the middle-ages, primitive=win?
anyway, signing off now untill tomorrow, its 9 PM.
good night.
The alternative to what?
Primitive building - use dirt then explain to me why are there dozens of other block types to build with?
Collecting seeds - What's wrong with a hoe? it tiles the ground. maybe someone doesnt want to tile their ground in search of seeds
Attracting prey - I hope this is a joke i forgot there isnt such thing in minecraft yet, sorry
Minecraft has a neo-medieval fantasy setting similar to what you think of for most western RPGs. Poo shacks aren't really common in that setting. let me explain this for the last time: the bricks you make from what i stated in the OP is a normal "smelt clay-ball to brick" brick, nothing else.
if notch adds, say, certain aspects of "ocencraft" like having clay a lot more common deep underwater, ill change that into something else, or completely eliminate that use.
You seem to be trying all too hard to find reasons why crap should be added. Why? for variation. its the spice of life. variation, that is. not manure.
Quote from sniggyfigbat »
99% of minecraft is about different solutions to the same problem. So far, I haven't seen you post a single argument that outweighs the positive ones. At this point, you are the only person you are making look immature due to your inability to accept basic bodily functions. And, frankly, this impression isn't helped by your profile picture. You've had your say, it was bollocks, now accept defeat and stop being a troll. You're not contributing.
Not that he was pissing me off or anything...
How many ways are there to do anything? If you want coal, diamond, wheat, a bow, whatever there's really only one way to get it. Anyway that's not what this is about. but you can choose whether you want diamond or just iron, coal or charcoal, a bow or a sword, pork or wheat and so on!
I've got no problem with adding manure to the game so long as it makes sense, which so far it doesn't to me. you have a right to have that opinion, but if you can think of things that make sense, share please!
Every usage that has been mentioned is already in the game as something else, or doesn't make sense. is there a difference between bread and pork chops? other than the way of getting them, no. they do the same thing.
Postives:
New ways to do things that are already possible
That's the only one that I've read so far
Negatives:
Redundancy explain how? who says manure would be common?
Throws game balance (fertilize crops without any risk/reward) you can also choose to wait, and how about a small chance (say, 1%?) of the sapling/crop of decaying when using manure? i mean, maybe they cant absorb the manure, and the minerals inside it kills them? or how about getting a % of a manure block of being a dud? the possibilites are endless!
Stupidity, just my opinion floating blocks of dirt is what i call stupidity, thats also my opinion. you are entitled of having your own.
Now, I'm trying to argue my points without being rude, I'm just fighting for my side here.so am i.
Well alrighty, I've stated my opinion, and in summation I think it's a stupid idea and none of it's possible benefits outweigh the fact that it is very stupid to me. With that, I leave this thread to the masses!
Well alrighty, I've stated my opinion, and in summation I think it's a stupid idea and none of it's possible benefits outweigh the fact that it is very stupid to me. With that, I leave this thread to the masses!
ok, suit yourself.
Quote from Chazer127 »
I like the idea of using it as a alternitve to bone meal, so people who play on peacfull still have a way of speeding up the growth, but not as good as the bone meal so people still dont get the full benifits of it, as for the dye idea not so much because, you know, rubbing Manure into wool just seems nasty even for a game (childish I know)
As for people who bash this saying its immature, try real life farming.
Overall I think its a good idea, and i would'nt mind it being in the game JUST as a farm tool.
thank you for supporting!
if you have any shower-revelations as i usually do (ideas that pop up when you are in the shower), please post and help us help you!
Hmm...this isn't actually all that bad of an idea. I don't know about making bricks out of it though, that's kind of...well, gross. But using it as fertilizer sounds good, and it would definitely help those who only play on peaceful and can't get any bone meal.
It is a cool idea cause skeletons kill you before you can make one shot it is worse but you can get larger amounts easier making it not much different and clay is rare and non-renewable this provides a harder but renewable way for bricks so i support this idea and i dont think he is trolling or scamming or whatever it is a good idea i hope this thread never gets locked and i support the dye idea cause cocoa beans are super rare being in dungeons and still not always being there this is a alternative that does not make cookies so you can get brown wool without going far out to find brown sheep or going to a dungeon so it is gross rubbing manure on wool but i still support and diamonds for you
Hmm...this isn't actually all that bad of an idea. I don't know about making bricks out of it though, that's kind of...well, gross. But using it as fertilizer sounds good, and it would definitely help those who only play on peaceful and can't get any bone meal.
thank you for your support, and... yeah, if you read the entire OP you'll see i actually touched such a brick myself once.
and then took a shower.
@above: thank you for your support! oh, and welcome to the forums!
a few tips: try crafting armor to try and get closer to the skeleton, or get a bow and arrows yourself.
also, try and use some more pancuation (is that how you spell it?) and press a few extra times on the "enter" button.
right now i have some little details of a new use, which im slightly, yet entirely unsure what the outcome will be.
will edit OP when done.
i am not trying to make this game more immature, simply to improve and add alternatives.
thats all.
in fact, im adding a new thing to do with manure that isnt yet in the game.
check it at the OP when im done.
can someone help me and tell me how to get that .gif animation in my sig? im having problems with it.
Wraiths: Boss-like mob for Hard!
slightly.
check out the new stuff i wrote.
also, i hope you dont still think im a troll.
1. game breaking how? please explain.
2. manure only shortens a sapling's growth by a day, and also just 1 stage of crops, bone meal grows saplings into trees at an instant, as well as crops.
3. ill go with you on that one, but in my defence its a complicated way of making just 1 brick out of the four needed to make 1 brick block.
it will take a while.
can someone help me and tell me how to get that .gif animation in my sig? im having problems with it.
A brown, bracken bush that you could mash into a dye, use as fertilizer, build a house with, and have it not be an off-putting addition would still not be a good idea. It has little to do with the fact that adding manure is stupid, and more with the uses being poor.
Any realistic reasons to add manure are already covered, and if you stretch the uses of manure to make it fit into the game, then I'm sure you could think of something that makes more sense for that use and isn't childish.
Wraiths: Boss-like mob for Hard!
now, this is where you (that includes you, the reader) come along!
its your "job" to help me refine my idea, throw out the bad parts, add good parts, and balance it!
as you can probably tell, i am not a game developer, and i dont have a degree in balacing things in the game.
but you can help with that!
can you think of anything to add?
if so, share!
i would love input!
thank you for the compliment, but part of it someone else whom i forgot his/her name (sorry, its written in the OP) deserves most of that compliment.
also, every use and special property of manure is realistic.
some are streched, yes, but thats to make it fit in minecraft.
nothing here is childish, i mean the romanians used to make fences with the stuff, and im sure they didnt think it was childish.
did you take a look at the other manure thread i put the link to @above?
now THATS childish, "poo armor and poo swords".
and hold on a sec, i just thought of another, realistic, idea.
brb.
can someone help me and tell me how to get that .gif animation in my sig? im having problems with it.
You can't just say that animals should poop because that's realistic, it has to fit the game. There's no usage for it that I can think of that isn't already covered by something else, or can't be covered by an alternative.
Wraiths: Boss-like mob for Hard!
but manure IS the alternative!
its a more primitive way of building, collecting seeds, attracting prey and other things i wrote i cant remember right now.
and since minecraft is set in the middle-ages, primitive=win?
anyway, signing off now untill tomorrow, its 9 PM.
good night.
can someone help me and tell me how to get that .gif animation in my sig? im having problems with it.
The alternative to what?
Primitive building - use dirt
Collecting seeds - What's wrong with a hoe?
Attracting prey - I hope this is a joke
Minecraft has a neo-medieval fantasy setting similar to what you think of for most western RPGs. Poo shacks aren't really common in that setting.
You seem to be trying all too hard to find reasons why crap should be added. Why?
How many ways are there to do anything? If you want coal, diamond, wheat, a bow, whatever there's really only one way to get it. Anyway that's not what this is about.
I've got no problem with adding manure to the game so long as it makes sense, which so far it doesn't to me.
Every usage that has been mentioned is already in the game as something else, or doesn't make sense.
Postives:
New ways to do things that are already possible
That's the only one that I've read so far
Negatives:
Redundancy
Throws game balance (fertilize crops without any risk/reward)
Stupidity, just my opinion
Now, I'm trying to argue my points without being rude, I'm just fighting for my side here.
Wraiths: Boss-like mob for Hard!
please read the bolded parts.
thank you.
can someone help me and tell me how to get that .gif animation in my sig? im having problems with it.
Wraiths: Boss-like mob for Hard!
ok, suit yourself.
thank you for supporting!
if you have any shower-revelations as i usually do (ideas that pop up when you are in the shower), please post and help us help you!
can someone help me and tell me how to get that .gif animation in my sig? im having problems with it.
thank you for your support, and... yeah, if you read the entire OP you'll see i actually touched such a brick myself once.
and then took a shower.
@above: thank you for your support! oh, and welcome to the forums!
a few tips: try crafting armor to try and get closer to the skeleton, or get a bow and arrows yourself.
also, try and use some more pancuation (is that how you spell it?) and press a few extra times on the "enter" button.
right now i have some little details of a new use, which im slightly, yet entirely unsure what the outcome will be.
will edit OP when done.
can someone help me and tell me how to get that .gif animation in my sig? im having problems with it.
which means what?
in other news:
i have added a new use!
go read all about it!
im eagerly waiting for your hate and flames!
can someone help me and tell me how to get that .gif animation in my sig? im having problems with it.