again, lol, how can I be trolling when I'm complaining about a spawning issue? explain?
"a Zombie has more intelligence then the lot of you."
I speak truth, if you choose not to see it, that's your problem, how is it that you people can attack me when I'm just putting out a suggestion? how is it that all of you can call me an idiot? hmm? facts guy, facts are on my side, you attack me, I attack back, Trolls hit first, and seek to entice, which, if you can read, you'll notice I did not hit first.
and here, it's not like Notch would listen, and the lost of you act like he would, lol, if he did listen, he would release patches every other week.
I'm not even saying the Creeper's themselves are a real problem, all I'm saying is their SPAWNING is a problem, if it took all of you THIS long, to see that *points to title* is the problem, lol... just... lol...
Creepers follow the exact same spawning algorithm as spiders, skeletons and zombies do. Same requirements, same group appearance chances, same everything.
And, most importantly: Creepers / Mobs in general do not, have never and will never spawn in well lit areas - only where there is a light level of 7 or lower. Torches emit a light intensity of 14 at their core, decreasing by 1 for every block of distance. This means that you need at least one torch per 11 blocks - due to the whole game being 3D and obstacles blocking off light, I'd recommend one torch per 5 blocks though. Just try to keep everything well lit.
Next thing to remember: If there is a hole in your wall, a place where Mobs can use the environment to jump into your base, a cave with an opening or anything else, Mobs WILL find a way.
As said, please register at dropbox or any other good filesharing site, upload your worldfile and I'd gladly help you to find the root of your creeper nightmare.
Your fighting a hopeless battle, no matter what you do, you have no chance of winning,
The chances of Notch nerfing the creepers are slim, very slim, and go in the mod request/idea forum, and post for something like that, a basic mob coder may be able to help you
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Also, the idea's still lousy. It's not a spawn problem, it's your defense problem.
I just found names from the people's whose posts seem very insultive:
PyroNox
KarkasmolenKlok
loopytop
Acetyl
if their not the majority of the posters, then I apologize for insulting the rest, I really am.
They're called critics. Sorry for your luck.
Critics don't insult, well, not the true Critics anyway, they just call it:"bad, very bad, aweful idea" or something else, last I recalled Critics were supposed to be above insults to get their idea through.
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Your fighting a hopeless battle, no matter what you do, you have no chance of winning,
The chances of Notch nerfing the creepers are slim, very slim, and go in the mod request/idea forum, and post for something like that, a basic mob coder may be able to help you
I know that, lol, like I mentioned earlier, if he did listen, he'd most likely make patches every month or month and a half, like I do with all the games I mod, until it's perfect.
and no, I'm not referring to being unheard, I almost guarantee he's heard this argument in the past, and has a firm stance on no to it, but it doesn't hurt to suggest now does it?
Oh, and I almost forgot to mention kar98k, is he a "critic" to?
here's the link, like I mentioned before I think I spawn in the city, the Castle is up on a hill, the city is nowhere close to being finished.
Since I'm constantly being overheard, I'll start one last attempt to end the flame war going on in here:
The thread starter has a problem with Creepers spawning inside his base. He thinks that this is due to a faulty Creeper spawning algorithm.
I, myself, am quite sure that the fault is to be searched within the defensive measures and light distribution within the castle. This can, however, neither be proven nor refuted without any kind of evidence.
Therefore, I ask you one last time: Please share your world so we - or at least I, if no one else is interested in doing actual research instead of just flaming around - can take a look at your world to see the faulty Creeper spawning with our own eyes.
That's the only way we can get a solid discussion going on here.
Edit: Link works now, thanks. Gotta take a look at it. I'd still recommend registering at dropbox - it's as easy as it can get. No waiting times, integrated into your OS, fast uploads, faster downloads etc.
Edit2: Can't find your city. I spawned without any equipment on a frozen lake - your spawn point, I guess? there were no torches in sight (on FAR), not a single structure or anything. I searched a few minutes but didn't find anything.
Critics don't insult, well, not the true Critics anyway, they just call it:"bad, very bad, aweful idea" or something else, last I recalled Critics were supposed to be above insults to get their idea through.
Bull. Critics insult all the time. What do you think a critic is doing when they say an idea's awful? Insulting the idea and/or the person responsible for it. There is also no law against critics being vitriolic or just plain assholes.
Your idea's lousy and the imagined problem needs no fix.
Since I'm constantly being overheard, I'll start one last attempt to end the flame war going on in here:
The thread starter has a problem with Creepers spawning inside his base. He thinks that this is due to a faulty Creeper spawning algorithm.
I, myself, am quite sure that the fault is to be searched within the defensive measures and light distribution within the castle. This can, however, neither be proven nor refuted without any kind of evidence.
Therefore, I ask you one last time: Please share your world so we - or at least I, if no one else is interested in doing actual research instead of just flaming around - can take a look at your world to see the faulty Creeper spawning with our own eyes.
That's the only way we can get a solid discussion going on here.
Edit: Link works now, thanks. Gotta take a look at it. I'd still recommend registering at dropbox - it's as easy as it can get. No waiting times, integrated into your OS, fast uploads, faster downloads etc.
Edit2: Can't find your city. I spawned without any equipment on a frozen lake - your spawn point, I guess? there were no torches in sight (on FAR), not a single structure or anything. I searched a few minutes but didn't find anything.
I've been hearing you, I have a plugin that allows be to spawn at the Castle, that's it, my mistake, I need to also send plugins...
Critics don't insult, well, not the true Critics anyway, they just call it:"bad, very bad, aweful idea" or something else, last I recalled Critics were supposed to be above insults to get their idea through.
Bull. Critics insult all the time. What do you think a critic is doing when they say an idea's awful? Insulting the idea and/or the person responsible for it. There is also no law against critics being vitriolic or just plain assholes.
Your idea's lousy and the imagined problem needs no fix.
/thread
no, but being an asshole will usually get them ignored, as their opinions do not matter, if they can't think right.
however, your being a non-assoholic critic right there
"Your idea's lousy and the imagined problem needs no fix."
your opinions matters more as you can at least be intelligent, compared to the other ones who "dun't no wat to do"
in everything i see(not just my mind need I mind you before you or anyone goes off) if the critics most listened to are balanced, or positive, negative critics(who embody that emotion) are usually swept aside as children who because they've never been listened to their entire childhood(valid explanation I think) are trying to get others to listen to them.
Now, since someone wants to actually be constructive, and balanced, perhaps, we can set aside this little flame war that instigated out of a little problem I pointed out? hmm?
also, before anyone comes lashing out, to each man their own opinion? that's reasonable, the "critics" think I need to stop playing MineCraft if I don't like Creepers, where I think the "Critics" themselves need to get off their fat ass, and actually do something instead of sit here and complain senselessly.
but these are respectively my and their opinions, if no agreement can be reach, well, it seems as I'm the better man, as I would like to stop this.
Sorry, but I'm really cautious when it comes to installing mods; I've only got one mod installed so far because I really need it, and I'm not going to install 7 additional Mods just to be able to play your world. I just took a quick look at them, but might it be that the mod called "SpawnMob" may alter the way Mob Spawning is handled in the game, possibly leading to creepers spawning inside your base?
Sorry, but I'm really cautious when it comes to installing mods; I've only got one mod installed so far because I really need it, and I'm not going to install 7 additional Mods just to be able to play your world. I just took a quick look at them, but might it be that the mod called "SpawnMob" may alter the way Mob Spawning is handled in the game, possibly leading to creepers spawning inside your base?
these aren't mods, their plugins for bukkit, drag n drop, the only thing needed was my home, that's the one that had my spawnpoint.
SpawnMob allows me to spawn mobs, like whatever I want, I don't spawn creepers, and I'm the only OP/Admin on the server, I've tried OPing people in the past, but they abuse their powers the moment they get them(by giving themself items, or spawning Creepers at day or Spiders at night)
the SpawnMob doesn't mention anything about increasing spawns, rather that I can spawn them whenever and where ever I want(of course, I can't spawn Zombies in daylight or they burn)
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sit here and complain senselessly.
That's what you've been doing...
I thought so, I knew I was right, I was hoping I wasn't the only one who wanted to end it, but, I was wrong... and here you are behaving quite rational earlier... pity...
Also, the idea's still lousy. It's not a spawn problem, it's your defense problem.
I just found names from the people's whose posts seem very insultive:
PyroNox
KarkasmolenKlok
loopytop
Acetyl
if their not the majority of the posters, then I apologize for insulting the rest, I really am.
I actually think I should be at the top of that list.
Kark hit me me first, but I didn't put this as a:"Who's the better ass" list, I just put up names from people who get called "Critics" who aren't above insults.
as it stand, in the end, I won, I won because I managed to keep myself rational through half of the thread, while the "Critics" couldn't bring themself to do so, they remind me of a once brilliant person I met on the old 3DO forums, Major Mylar, he could tell you just about everything about Military tactics, equipment, and the like, but he was a Grammer Nazi, and Ass, to bad he got some sort of mental problem(last I heard, but I think it was a joke, but, I'm still unsure) as he did seem mentally unstable, and it sent him to a mental hospital(excuse me for using mental so much)
Noshire, did you manage to get to my castle and see if there were any gaps? if not, oh well, at least you were trying to be helpful, and thanks for trying to help.
I thought so, I knew I was right, I was hoping I wasn't the only one who wanted to end it, but, I was wrong... and here you are behaving quite rational earlier... pity...
So how 'bout we agree to dissagree and leave it for other people to flamme
It kind of makes me mad how good suggestions don't have that many post,
while bad or not tought trough or controversial suggestions have more post seeing as how they need improvement or are controversial
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again, lol, how can I be trolling when I'm complaining about a spawning issue? explain?
Put your pants back on and lurk moar.
"a Zombie has more intelligence then the lot of you."
Incompetence is a plague. I am the cure.
For all your wolf suggestion needs, I present the WOLF MEGATHREAD!
Stories: A Miner's Chronicle, The Lost Chronicle [Entries 32-2, 33-1, and 33-2 out!]
I speak truth, if you choose not to see it, that's your problem, how is it that you people can attack me when I'm just putting out a suggestion? how is it that all of you can call me an idiot? hmm? facts guy, facts are on my side, you attack me, I attack back, Trolls hit first, and seek to entice, which, if you can read, you'll notice I did not hit first.
and here, it's not like Notch would listen, and the lost of you act like he would, lol, if he did listen, he would release patches every other week.
Also, the idea's still lousy. It's not a spawn problem, it's your defense problem.
Incompetence is a plague. I am the cure.
For all your wolf suggestion needs, I present the WOLF MEGATHREAD!
Stories: A Miner's Chronicle, The Lost Chronicle [Entries 32-2, 33-1, and 33-2 out!]
I just found names from the people's whose posts seem very insultive:
PyroNox
KarkasmolenKlok
loopytop
Acetyl
if their not the majority of the posters, then I apologize for insulting the rest, I really am.
They're called critics. Sorry for your luck.
Incompetence is a plague. I am the cure.
For all your wolf suggestion needs, I present the WOLF MEGATHREAD!
Stories: A Miner's Chronicle, The Lost Chronicle [Entries 32-2, 33-1, and 33-2 out!]
Creepers follow the exact same spawning algorithm as spiders, skeletons and zombies do. Same requirements, same group appearance chances, same everything.
And, most importantly: Creepers / Mobs in general do not, have never and will never spawn in well lit areas - only where there is a light level of 7 or lower. Torches emit a light intensity of 14 at their core, decreasing by 1 for every block of distance. This means that you need at least one torch per 11 blocks - due to the whole game being 3D and obstacles blocking off light, I'd recommend one torch per 5 blocks though. Just try to keep everything well lit.
Next thing to remember: If there is a hole in your wall, a place where Mobs can use the environment to jump into your base, a cave with an opening or anything else, Mobs WILL find a way.
As said, please register at dropbox or any other good filesharing site, upload your worldfile and I'd gladly help you to find the root of your creeper nightmare.
The chances of Notch nerfing the creepers are slim, very slim, and go in the mod request/idea forum, and post for something like that, a basic mob coder may be able to help you
I will be using them soon
I'm Starting to be known as a Balancer, A.K.A. I'm starting to become pessimist
Critics don't insult, well, not the true Critics anyway, they just call it:"bad, very bad, aweful idea" or something else, last I recalled Critics were supposed to be above insults to get their idea through.
I know that, lol, like I mentioned earlier, if he did listen, he'd most likely make patches every month or month and a half, like I do with all the games I mod, until it's perfect.
and no, I'm not referring to being unheard, I almost guarantee he's heard this argument in the past, and has a firm stance on no to it, but it doesn't hurt to suggest now does it?
Oh, and I almost forgot to mention kar98k, is he a "critic" to?
here's the link, like I mentioned before I think I spawn in the city, the Castle is up on a hill, the city is nowhere close to being finished.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P2JADUSL
this link does work, sometimes though mega upload says it's unavailable temporarily.
The thread starter has a problem with Creepers spawning inside his base. He thinks that this is due to a faulty Creeper spawning algorithm.
I, myself, am quite sure that the fault is to be searched within the defensive measures and light distribution within the castle. This can, however, neither be proven nor refuted without any kind of evidence.
Therefore, I ask you one last time: Please share your world so we - or at least I, if no one else is interested in doing actual research instead of just flaming around - can take a look at your world to see the faulty Creeper spawning with our own eyes.
That's the only way we can get a solid discussion going on here.
Edit: Link works now, thanks. Gotta take a look at it. I'd still recommend registering at dropbox - it's as easy as it can get. No waiting times, integrated into your OS, fast uploads, faster downloads etc.
Edit2: Can't find your city. I spawned without any equipment on a frozen lake - your spawn point, I guess? there were no torches in sight (on FAR), not a single structure or anything. I searched a few minutes but didn't find anything.
Bull. Critics insult all the time. What do you think a critic is doing when they say an idea's awful? Insulting the idea and/or the person responsible for it. There is also no law against critics being vitriolic or just plain assholes.
Your idea's lousy and the imagined problem needs no fix.
/thread
Incompetence is a plague. I am the cure.
For all your wolf suggestion needs, I present the WOLF MEGATHREAD!
Stories: A Miner's Chronicle, The Lost Chronicle [Entries 32-2, 33-1, and 33-2 out!]
I've been hearing you, I have a plugin that allows be to spawn at the Castle, that's it, my mistake, I need to also send plugins...
I'll go set the link up.
Here it is: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IKE6F7NC
no, but being an asshole will usually get them ignored, as their opinions do not matter, if they can't think right.
however, your being a non-assoholic critic right there
"Your idea's lousy and the imagined problem needs no fix."
your opinions matters more as you can at least be intelligent, compared to the other ones who "dun't no wat to do"
in everything i see(not just my mind need I mind you before you or anyone goes off) if the critics most listened to are balanced, or positive, negative critics(who embody that emotion) are usually swept aside as children who because they've never been listened to their entire childhood(valid explanation I think) are trying to get others to listen to them.
Now, since someone wants to actually be constructive, and balanced, perhaps, we can set aside this little flame war that instigated out of a little problem I pointed out? hmm?
also, before anyone comes lashing out, to each man their own opinion? that's reasonable, the "critics" think I need to stop playing MineCraft if I don't like Creepers, where I think the "Critics" themselves need to get off their fat ass, and actually do something instead of sit here and complain senselessly.
but these are respectively my and their opinions, if no agreement can be reach, well, it seems as I'm the better man, as I would like to stop this.
That's what you've been doing...
Incompetence is a plague. I am the cure.
For all your wolf suggestion needs, I present the WOLF MEGATHREAD!
Stories: A Miner's Chronicle, The Lost Chronicle [Entries 32-2, 33-1, and 33-2 out!]
these aren't mods, their plugins for bukkit, drag n drop, the only thing needed was my home, that's the one that had my spawnpoint.
SpawnMob allows me to spawn mobs, like whatever I want, I don't spawn creepers, and I'm the only OP/Admin on the server, I've tried OPing people in the past, but they abuse their powers the moment they get them(by giving themself items, or spawning Creepers at day or Spiders at night)
the SpawnMob doesn't mention anything about increasing spawns, rather that I can spawn them whenever and where ever I want(of course, I can't spawn Zombies in daylight or they burn)
I thought so, I knew I was right, I was hoping I wasn't the only one who wanted to end it, but, I was wrong... and here you are behaving quite rational earlier... pity...
I actually think I should be at the top of that list.
Kark hit me me first, but I didn't put this as a:"Who's the better ass" list, I just put up names from people who get called "Critics" who aren't above insults.
as it stand, in the end, I won, I won because I managed to keep myself rational through half of the thread, while the "Critics" couldn't bring themself to do so, they remind me of a once brilliant person I met on the old 3DO forums, Major Mylar, he could tell you just about everything about Military tactics, equipment, and the like, but he was a Grammer Nazi, and Ass, to bad he got some sort of mental problem(last I heard, but I think it was a joke, but, I'm still unsure) as he did seem mentally unstable, and it sent him to a mental hospital(excuse me for using mental so much)
Noshire, did you manage to get to my castle and see if there were any gaps? if not, oh well, at least you were trying to be helpful, and thanks for trying to help.
...What?
Incompetence is a plague. I am the cure.
For all your wolf suggestion needs, I present the WOLF MEGATHREAD!
Stories: A Miner's Chronicle, The Lost Chronicle [Entries 32-2, 33-1, and 33-2 out!]
So how 'bout we agree to dissagree and leave it for other people to flamme
It kind of makes me mad how good suggestions don't have that many post,
while bad or not tought trough or controversial suggestions have more post seeing as how they need improvement or are controversial
I will be using them soon
I'm Starting to be known as a Balancer, A.K.A. I'm starting to become pessimist