6 blocks used to make stairs should yield 6 stair blocks instead of 8. Where the chunk excised from the individual blocks to make the stairs is damaged beyond reuse.
I can agree with that, but 8 would also be ok.
But it is really annoying, that you onyl get 4 stairs
While I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your well-reasoned argument/rant, I would guess that the recipe yield has less to do with balance and more to do with avoiding item duplication. Long ago, mining a stair would drop the source block instead of a stair- so a crafting yield of 8 would have allowed for the manufacture of infinite cobble/planks/stonebrick. (6 blocks to make 8, rinse and repeat). Occam's Razor and all that.
The balance issue is, in my opinion, a rather small one. Updating the recipe would be consistent with the earlier changes of changing slabs to yield 6 instead of 3, and before that changing double-slabs to drop 2 slabs instead of 1 when mined. It doesn't really lessen the challenge of survival; it just removes a small annoyance when building.
The cost of stairs and the amount of stair blocks you receive in return is not balanced.
To craft a stair block, six blocks are required to make one.
Stairs use 6/8 smaller blocks (divide a cube into 8 more cubes).
A regular blocks uses 8/8.
Thus, the amount of smaller blocks (let's call them miniblocks) that you are spending is forty-eight. (6*8) - 6 blocks made up of 8 cubes
The amount of miniblocks you are receiving is twenty-four. (6*4) - 4 blocks made up of 6 cubes
In short, to receive a decoration block. you are spending twice as much as you should be.
The solution is to have players receive eight stair blocks each time they craft one.
Sounds silly?
Builders have this problem often in Survival mode, and it simply doesn't make sense. How do you lose half of the blocks you are using?
Thanks in advance for constructive criticism.
I like your idea, but I'd prefer a slightly different approach. Instead of changing the yield, change the recipe: 3 blocks (in an L shape) to yield 4 stairs. This makes for fewer excess blocks, looks more like the actual stair block in the grid, and can be crafted without the table.
Also, it should go both ways: 4 stairs in a crafting grid to yield 3 source blocks. It would be fantastic to never have useless extra stairs pile up after "remodeling". Plus, for quartz, stone brick, and (red) sandstone, it would provide a crafting path back the default variant from other types, since any block variant can make stairs! Of course, a similar option for cobble/wood/netherbrick slabs would be really helpful as well.
For making 4 stairs you need one log and a half. Getting 8 means you get 2 lognat price of 1,5 logs. You should get 6.
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I can agree with that, but 8 would also be ok.
But it is really annoying, that you onyl get 4 stairs
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It's not oko8 as you only use 6 planks, and if you do the math 6 stairs you'll get.
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While I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your well-reasoned argument/rant, I would guess that the recipe yield has less to do with balance and more to do with avoiding item duplication. Long ago, mining a stair would drop the source block instead of a stair- so a crafting yield of 8 would have allowed for the manufacture of infinite cobble/planks/stonebrick. (6 blocks to make 8, rinse and repeat). Occam's Razor and all that.
The balance issue is, in my opinion, a rather small one. Updating the recipe would be consistent with the earlier changes of changing slabs to yield 6 instead of 3, and before that changing double-slabs to drop 2 slabs instead of 1 when mined. It doesn't really lessen the challenge of survival; it just removes a small annoyance when building.
I like your idea, but I'd prefer a slightly different approach. Instead of changing the yield, change the recipe: 3 blocks (in an L shape) to yield 4 stairs. This makes for fewer excess blocks, looks more like the actual stair block in the grid, and can be crafted without the table.
Also, it should go both ways: 4 stairs in a crafting grid to yield 3 source blocks. It would be fantastic to never have useless extra stairs pile up after "remodeling". Plus, for quartz, stone brick, and (red) sandstone, it would provide a crafting path back the default variant from other types, since any block variant can make stairs! Of course, a similar option for cobble/wood/netherbrick slabs would be really helpful as well.
Yeah. The stair recipe is SO bad.
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I'm always annoyed by this, though I think it should be six stairs, not eight.
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