We were talking about this in an SMP server... sortof like L4D Versus mode.
Oh yeah, and player mobs should drop more resources - or better. Skellies would drop 16 arrows/bows, creepers would drop TNT, Zombies would drop some kind of meat (Gross!) and Spiders would drop 10 string
Miners can build faster than the mobs can destroy.
They'll get out of recourses eventually, so they'll have to mine for more. As they do, they'll enter unexplored caves where the mobs are waiting for them. Since the mobs get stronger and stronger, they have to mine deeper and deeper to get more sturdy and effective items.
But if the miners have no want for fun, they would just run, zombies are slower, creepers same speed, skeletons are easy to dodge if you know how.
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that tower would take a single bucket of lava....
since if one was to put lava in the middle of a 3x3 square, it would spread out and fall off all of the sides....
and with another bucket of lava and a few more pieces of any material.... you could completely surround yourself in a tower of lava.
i've made the source block for the lava.
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zombie pigmen and ghasts would have to be in the overworld in order to make this game have even a chance at balance.
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that tower would take a single bucket of lava....
since if one was to put lava in the middle of a 3x3 square, it would spread out and fall off all of the sides....
and with another bucket of lava and a few more pieces of any material.... you could completely surround yourself in a tower of lava.
i've made the source block for the lava.
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zombie pigmen and ghasts would have to be in the overworld in order to make this game have even a chance at balance.
nope, use a skeleton, we've decieded that they can break blocks with arrows at a distance, so you'd need to build REALLY high up, and hope a chicken doesn't fly up there and remove the lava with a bucket
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and hope a chicken doesn't fly up there and remove the lava with a bucket
Chickens cant hold buckets...
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we've decieded that they can break blocks with arrows at a distance
Yes, but thats only glass, no chance with cooble, plus, the arrow would burn in the lava.
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Miners can build faster than the mobs can destroy.
They'll get out of recourses eventually, so they'll have to mine for more. As they do, they'll enter unexplored caves where the mobs are waiting for them. Since the mobs get stronger and stronger, they have to mine deeper and deeper to get more sturdy and effective items.
well, it wouldnt start at night straight away (mobs = instant win) so they would have enough daylight to collect all the wood they need. Then they just use stone tools to dig down, seal the hole up, then keep seeling it as it is destroyed.
Any way you look at it, one side is going to be better than the other, and will always win, atm, its the miners, but it appears your trying to overpower the mobs to win, which will then just make miners unplayable.
and hope a chicken doesn't fly up there and remove the lava with a bucket
Chickens cant hold buckets...
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we've decieded that they can break blocks with arrows at a distance
Yes, but thats only glass, no chance with cooble, plus, the arrow would burn in the lava.
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Miners can build faster than the mobs can destroy.
They'll get out of recourses eventually, so they'll have to mine for more. As they do, they'll enter unexplored caves where the mobs are waiting for them. Since the mobs get stronger and stronger, they have to mine deeper and deeper to get more sturdy and effective items.
well, it wouldnt start at night straight away (mobs = instant win) so they would have enough daylight to collect all the wood they need. Then they just use stone tools to dig down, seal the hole up, then keep seeling it as it is destroyed.
Any way you look at it, one side is going to be better than the other, and will always win, atm, its the miners, but it appears your trying to overpower the mobs to win, which will then just make miners unplayable.
wow, balance understanding failure.
Epic failure.
and, no, if that were true, then ALL multiplayer games would be so.
I say, arrows deal damage to ALL blocks, but exactly as much as a wood tool of the correct type would.
arrows and snow passthrough lava, catching on fire instead.
You are failing at trying to get us to give up, horribly
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that tower would take a single bucket of lava....
since if one was to put lava in the middle of a 3x3 square, it would spread out and fall off all of the sides....
and with another bucket of lava and a few more pieces of any material.... you could completely surround yourself in a tower of lava.
i've made the source block for the lava.
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zombie pigmen and ghasts would have to be in the overworld in order to make this game have even a chance at balance.
nope, use a skeleton, we've decieded that they can break blocks with arrows at a distance, so you'd need to build REALLY high up, and hope a chicken doesn't fly up there and remove the lava with a bucket
since when do chickens have buckets?
anyways, if you build the tower to the limit of the map and then place the lava at the highest point possible... when chickens hit that invisible ceiling, they will fly straight into the lava.
and if arrows can suddenly break cobblestone...
just make the top area a 3 x 6 room.. add another bucket of lava to the top.
(or 6x6 or 3x9 or 9x9... adding a bucket for each 3x3 square that is created on the top)
the blocks will break but they still won't know exactly where the miner(s) are because the lava blocks the view...
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and adding so many special abilities to mobs only so that the miners will still win sort of ruins the feel that most of us think this should have... and makes it less fun...
maybe instead of all of these crazy new abilities for mobs (they can keep some - just not all) there should be limits on the miners' abilities.
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that tower would take a single bucket of lava....
since if one was to put lava in the middle of a 3x3 square, it would spread out and fall off all of the sides....
and with another bucket of lava and a few more pieces of any material.... you could completely surround yourself in a tower of lava.
i've made the source block for the lava.
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zombie pigmen and ghasts would have to be in the overworld in order to make this game have even a chance at balance.
nope, use a skeleton, we've decieded that they can break blocks with arrows at a distance, so you'd need to build REALLY high up, and hope a chicken doesn't fly up there and remove the lava with a bucket
since when do chickens have buckets?
anyways, if you build the tower to the limit of the map and then place the lava at the highest point possible... when chickens hit that invisible ceiling, they will fly straight into the lava.
and if arrows can suddenly break cobblestone...
just make the top area a 3 x 6 room.. add another bucket of lava to the top.
(or 6x6 or 3x9 or 9x9... adding a bucket for each 3x3 square that is created on the top)
the blocks will break but they still won't know exactly where the miner(s) are because the lava blocks the view...
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and adding so many special abilities to mobs only so that the miners will still win sort of ruins the feel that most of us think this should have... and makes it less fun...
maybe instead of all of these crazy new abilities for mobs (they can keep some - just not all) there should be limits on the miners' abilities.
What if the skeleton shoots an arrow that breaks the block underneath the lava source block? the lava would flow into the miner's tower and kill him.
What if the skeleton shoots an arrow that breaks the block underneath the lava source block? the lava would flow into the miner's tower and kill him.
well how are they going to shoot the roof without being above the tower which was built as high as it possibly could?
and if it takes a certain number of arrows to destroy a block... the miner(s) could simply watch the arrows and place another block before the lava flows down.
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and to those of you sugggesting that the mobs can build too: then it would become miners vs miners with superpowers; and then whichever team that was trying to live would always live.
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maybe instead of the miners trying to survive.... we should bring back the "small" maps and have the mobs try to survive....
or maybe just 1 person on the mob team would be a chameleon mob... (can transform into any mob by right clicking on one) and then the rest on the team would be "hostile" mobs...
as soon as either the chameleon dies or all of the miners die, the round ends.
Oh yeah, and player mobs should drop more resources - or better. Skellies would drop 16 arrows/bows, creepers would drop TNT, Zombies would drop some kind of meat (Gross!) and Spiders would drop 10 string
But if the miners have no want for fun, they would just run, zombies are slower, creepers same speed, skeletons are easy to dodge if you know how.
towers + lava = win.
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that tower would take a single bucket of lava....
since if one was to put lava in the middle of a 3x3 square, it would spread out and fall off all of the sides....
and with another bucket of lava and a few more pieces of any material.... you could completely surround yourself in a tower of lava.
i've made the source block for the lava.
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zombie pigmen and ghasts would have to be in the overworld in order to make this game have even a chance at balance.
nope, use a skeleton, we've decieded that they can break blocks with arrows at a distance, so you'd need to build REALLY high up, and hope a chicken doesn't fly up there and remove the lava with a bucket
Chickens cant hold buckets...
Yes, but thats only glass, no chance with cooble, plus, the arrow would burn in the lava.
well, it wouldnt start at night straight away (mobs = instant win) so they would have enough daylight to collect all the wood they need. Then they just use stone tools to dig down, seal the hole up, then keep seeling it as it is destroyed.
Any way you look at it, one side is going to be better than the other, and will always win, atm, its the miners, but it appears your trying to overpower the mobs to win, which will then just make miners unplayable.
Ghasts are easily dodgeable and spiders can be kept at bay with the occasional attack
wow, balance understanding failure.
Epic failure.
and, no, if that were true, then ALL multiplayer games would be so.
I say, arrows deal damage to ALL blocks, but exactly as much as a wood tool of the correct type would.
arrows and snow passthrough lava, catching on fire instead.
You are failing at trying to get us to give up, horribly
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Falldeath for mobs
then let's let mobs build too!
Blinding the miner doesn't seem very inhibiting
Also, maybe sheep could cloak?
cloak? if turn invisible, creepers do that with this mode.
Spiders can climb down.
check PLUS for reading.
now then, let's do all we can to add balance, and not complain, shall we?
since when do chickens have buckets?
anyways, if you build the tower to the limit of the map and then place the lava at the highest point possible... when chickens hit that invisible ceiling, they will fly straight into the lava.
and if arrows can suddenly break cobblestone...
just make the top area a 3 x 6 room.. add another bucket of lava to the top.
(or 6x6 or 3x9 or 9x9... adding a bucket for each 3x3 square that is created on the top)
the blocks will break but they still won't know exactly where the miner(s) are because the lava blocks the view...
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and adding so many special abilities to mobs only so that the miners will still win sort of ruins the feel that most of us think this should have... and makes it less fun...
maybe instead of all of these crazy new abilities for mobs (they can keep some - just not all) there should be limits on the miners' abilities.
What if the skeleton shoots an arrow that breaks the block underneath the lava source block? the lava would flow into the miner's tower and kill him.
now then, we CAN'T limit the miners.
well how are they going to shoot the roof without being above the tower which was built as high as it possibly could?
and if it takes a certain number of arrows to destroy a block... the miner(s) could simply watch the arrows and place another block before the lava flows down.
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and to those of you sugggesting that the mobs can build too: then it would become miners vs miners with superpowers; and then whichever team that was trying to live would always live.
--------------
maybe instead of the miners trying to survive.... we should bring back the "small" maps and have the mobs try to survive....
or maybe just 1 person on the mob team would be a chameleon mob... (can transform into any mob by right clicking on one) and then the rest on the team would be "hostile" mobs...
as soon as either the chameleon dies or all of the miners die, the round ends.
While it is climbing, hit it. Knocks down.