The only problem i see is that bronze is much weaker than iron, so if someone where to do this I would much prefer to see iron tools get the double durability and bronze tools getting the old amount
The only problem i see is that bronze is much weaker than iron, so if someone where to do this I would much prefer to see iron tools get the double durability and bronze tools getting the old amount
bronze is stronger then iron, iron was much more common and easier to work with because you didn't need an alloy and therefore became the medal of choice, then of course steel was discovered. I'm not sure of which is stronger steel or bronze but I would assume steel.
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The fact that is it is very easy to find these two ores seems a bit overpowered, considering the (mild) rarity or iron
It it were slightly changed, I think it would be great!
(Love the multi smelting idea )
rarity would have to determine strength, if an item is stronger and more common then another element in the game it becomes unbalanced. This actually turns out to be the case in real life to, however it's a bit more complicated as to why the bronze age came first.
Alright im abandoning my copper thread and will hop onto this bandwagon. Fully support, I'm getting flamed at on my thread :sleep.gif:. 1 suggestion. Could copper be green? I mean that's how it's formed naturally (copper oxide- which is green :tongue.gif:, I actually found some copper in an old roman mine tunnel on a school trip 6 years ago. It's a sort of this colour ) I know you have already made an image for this, but for the sake of players, make it so they can spot the difference between iron and copper, just so they don't accidentally withdraw iron and put it in with tin to get nothing, think minecraft is broke and then feel stupid when they realize it's iron.
It isn't naturally green.
It turns green when it is exposed to the atmosphere...
It reacts with the oxygen, and water which gradually oxidizes it; turning it green.
The only thing I don't like about this suggestion is the dual smelting. I fear that since one coal gives 8 bars/products, it seems like cheating to smelt two things at once at the same rate. You should just smelt some copper bars, smelt some tin bars, and craft them together, or only get 4 bars for each coal in dual smelting.
Copper turns green when it oxidizes, and it only oxidizes when it is exposed to our atmosphere for a long period of time.
The air and atmospheric moisture gradually decays the surface of the copper, and tints it green.
Copper usually keeps a reddish metallic look to it before it becomes oxidized
Copper turns green when it oxidizes, and it only oxidizes when it is exposed to our atmosphere for a long period of time.
The air and atmospheric moisture gradually decays the surface of the copper, and tints it green.
Copper usually keeps a reddish metallic look to it before it becomes oxidized
copper ore is oxidized copper just like iron ore is oxidized iron
I just wanted to bring this up. Even though the argument is probably dead and buried.
Bronze is indeed harder than iron.
HOWEVER
That refers to wrought iron. In reality, iron forged like it is in minecraft is actually iron coated in a very thin layer of steel. Thus, while bronze is harder than iron, it is not harder than the "iron" produced through primitive methods.
Also, has nobody considered perhaps combining the verdigris effect from copper oxide with the orange of the copper metal to make a more diverse ore. As it stands the ore is a little bit too iron like.
And as far as the crafting goes. Rather than re-coding the whole furnace, why not just combine copper and tin ore in the crafting grid to make 2 "bronze ore" (for lack of a better name) which can then be smelted ?
good idea but wouldn't it be 1 bronze mix? it could look a bit like bone meal but silver and orangy, green
This would require changing the furnace to be able to smelt multiple things at once. Personally, I don't like that idea, so I propose you have to smelt Copper and Tin ingots separately, and them put them on the workbench to make 1 Bronze ingot.
Dude, you ****ed up at the beginning. Bronze is MUCH more common than iron, and IRL bronze was used for thousands of years before iron was even discovered. And it's also much weaker than iron. I think that bronze tools should be in between stone and iron, and the armor would be in between leather and iron. It would be good because you would find like 5 stacks of copper and tin for every stack of iron.
And I LOVE your multi-smelting idea! I was going to post a topic with the same thing, except for making steel. But you would have to combine iron and coal. Steel would be a dark-blue, would be in between iron and diamond, and would let you make mobile cannons!
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bronze is stronger then iron, iron was much more common and easier to work with because you didn't need an alloy and therefore became the medal of choice, then of course steel was discovered. I'm not sure of which is stronger steel or bronze but I would assume steel.
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It it were slightly changed, I think it would be great!
(Love the multi smelting idea )
Old, exposed copper ore turns green.
Fresh, but preserved copper ore keeps a reddish metallic look to it.
Oh, and yay my pics were put up :DDDDDDDd
Thanks OP
Why the bronze age came before the iron age
Playing Minecraft since [Friday, March 19, 2010, 9:20:21 PM] (First indev world save)
It isn't naturally green.
It turns green when it is exposed to the atmosphere...
It reacts with the oxygen, and water which gradually oxidizes it; turning it green.
what i think is that bronze should be a bit stronger than stone and when they break you get a mangled bronze piece back
place four mangled bronze pieces in the crafting block and you get a bronze ingot
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mushroom = mangled bronze piece
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green like a creeper
Bronze ore your say?
not that specifically copper and tin ore
o hrmm good point
COPPER
ORE
IS
NOT
GREEN.
Copper turns green when it oxidizes, and it only oxidizes when it is exposed to our atmosphere for a long period of time.
The air and atmospheric moisture gradually decays the surface of the copper, and tints it green.
Copper usually keeps a reddish metallic look to it before it becomes oxidized
copper ore is oxidized copper just like iron ore is oxidized iron
good idea but wouldn't it be 1 bronze mix? it could look a bit like bone meal but silver and orangy, green
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And I LOVE your multi-smelting idea! I was going to post a topic with the same thing, except for making steel. But you would have to combine iron and coal. Steel would be a dark-blue, would be in between iron and diamond, and would let you make mobile cannons!
Bronze, personally, would be a strange thing. I'm not entirely sure how it should be implemented.