no, it doesn't matter if you put foto's and that you have put work into it, it has already been suggested so many times Just because something is redundant doesn't mean it is bad. As long as something is not vague or a wishlist it should be off the hook. , but so many times that only emerald equipment is more suggested, this is just stupid and OP, i would never want this in minecraft, guns are the resemblance of "pain", "death" we already have 1 ranged weapon that is a bow, now we are fine with the killing equipment we already have in MC, and swords are already enough bloodthirsty but guns, "GUNS" is not a plausible thing as also kids play minecraft Swords and bows also resemble pain and death.
read this Hammers and modern guns aren't in minecraft. If flintlocks get added you can't really blame a game for your stupid kid to bring a modern gun to school. I can also guarantee you that no one has a flintlock in their household.
do we want un-responsable parents like this father blame minecraft because now it has actual guns in the game? guns do not have anything to do with minecraft, Notch even said that he discussed with jeb and said that they will not add guns in minecraft Source?
deal with it you don't have much else to say on this post, i am still surprised they a mod has not closed this thread. A mod didn't closethis thread because it is not vague and isn't as redundant as a modern gun.
Guns do not belong in Minecraft. If you want guns in MC, download a mod.
No support. (Huh? Why did it do two posts...? I thought posting again would add "no support" to my current post. Strange new MC Forums.)
I partially agree. I think you should have an option of guns if they did come in an update because I think it may become OP if you have a lot of gold, gunpowder, and iron. So it's a win-win.
People who want guns can turn it on in Options.
People who don't want guns can turn it off in Options.
Like so many others have stated, guns do not belong in Minecraft. Even if it would make the game somewhat less family-friendly, I think it would just be pretty out-of-place with all the armor, swords, bows, and whatnot. If it's so important to you to have guns in the game, find or make a mod or resource pack. No support.
Like so many others have stated, guns do not belong in Minecraft. Even if it would make the game somewhat less family-friendly, I think it would just be pretty out-of-place with all the armor, swords, bows, and whatnot. If it's so important to you to have guns in the game, find or make a mod or resource pack. No support.
The mod/resource pack thing is against the rules to say and flintlocks were used alongside swords and bows.
I partially agree. I think you should have an option of guns if they did come in an update because I think it may become OP if you have a lot of gold, gunpowder, and iron. So it's a win-win.
People who want guns can turn it on in Options.
People who don't want guns can turn it off in Options.
That is not a win-win. This suggestion would change everything. Instead of mining deep underground for ore you'd be looting dungeons and killing zombie pigmen for gold. Instead of trying to obtain diamond swords, you'd try to obtain guns. You'd fight mobs with guns, you'd kill players with guns. Minecraft would become a shooter game. You can't just do that to Minecraft and then just say "It's optional, so it's fine." If you want something to be optional, download a mod!! Don't completely change everything!
Here are examples of some gun mods that you can download instead of changing Minecraft entirely:
That is not a win-win. This suggestion would change everything. Instead of mining deep underground for ore you'd be looting dungeons and killing zombie pigmen for gold. Instead of trying to obtain diamond swords, you'd try to obtain guns. You'd fight mobs with guns, you'd kill players with guns. Minecraft would become a shooter game. You can't just do that to Minecraft and then just say "It's optional, so it's fine." If you want something to be optional, download a mod!! Don't completely change everything!
Here are examples of some gun mods that you can download instead of changing Minecraft entirely:
Minecraft would not be a shooter game if they add a gun. That's like saying that all people farm the materials used to make bows and arrows and don't use diamond swords to kill mobs.
Also, saying that there are mods for a suggestion is against the rules.
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Support. However, I think that this should be in a mod rather than in vanilla, as it does not really fit the theme of the game. (the game is sort of set in the stone and iron ages until you acquire redstone). Therefore, it does not really make sense. Also, some parents may complain about guns being in a E rated game, and adding guns to minecraft may make it rerated Teen instead.
That is not a win-win. This suggestion would change everything. Instead of mining deep underground for ore you'd be looting dungeons and killing zombie pigmen for gold. Instead of trying to obtain diamond swords, you'd try to obtain guns. You'd fight mobs with guns, you'd kill players with guns. Minecraft would become a shooter game. You can't just do that to Minecraft and then just say "It's optional, so it's fine." If you want something to be optional, download a mod!! Don't completely change everything!
Here are examples of some gun mods that you can download instead of changing Minecraft entirely:
you may even have a point there but really we are just fine with the armory we currently have in minecraft, guns in general are a sort of rip off, once there was a page on facebook called "give notch idea's on minecraft" it was an old page when notch still was the head on MC (now its jeb), it wasn't very famouse at all, mabey 400 likes on the page, but 1 guy asked to put these antic style guns like a musket, notch said firmly "we have already discussed about this, no guns in minecraft" do not believe me? you have the full right of not believing me as of the page has been eliminated for a reason that i do not know, though i ask you to consider "why would i lie?" to get unreal information? that's immature and irrespectable, have i beenacting in an immature way so far?
yes i know swords and bows are death too but its a mediavel-ish kind of game and really fighting isn't the main thing of minecraft, swords and bows are only for the survival apsect, why add such a sofisticated gun idea to minecraft if killing isn't the main goal? it would be much more sensed giving an idea on building blocks, tools, new ores, not a "gun".
and you know parents, they could blame a video game about pretty much anything you do, they think "my son plays GTA so when he grows up he is going to kill random people on the streets", the father on this article was just simply a jackass and because he didn't want to be blamed himself he gave the fault to the most voilent game that that kid had, a game where you build, have fun with friends, mine and go on a kill rampage occasionally during the night if your in survival without guns
i repeat why add a very sufisticated idea of guns if combat isn't the main thing of minecraft?
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Minecraft would not be a shooter game if they add a gun. That's like saying that all people farm the materials used to make bows and arrows and don't use diamond swords to kill mobs.
Also, saying that there are mods for a suggestion is against the rules.
1. swords are for close encounters where there isnt much time to think and react, bows on the other hand are for long raged shooting andare very ineficent at close range, so using time to make a daimond sword is as usefull as giving time to make a bow.
2. it is not "against" the rules, but it preferable not to say "there is a mod for that" without expressing his actual idea's, Alexcamostyle clearly expressed his opinions on even more than one post, so id'e say he mabey "fine" for now.
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Minecraft would not be a shooter game if they add a gun. That's like saying that all people farm the materials used to make bows and arrows and don't use diamond swords to kill mobs.
Also, saying that there are mods for a suggestion is against the rules.
When the most powerful weapon in the game, as well as a rather common item, is added, everyone uses that weapon. When everyone uses guns, it becomes a shooter game.
Support. However, I think that this should be in a mod rather than in vanilla, as it does not really fit the theme of the game. (the game is sort of set in the stone and iron ages until you acquire redstone). Therefore, it does not really make sense. Also, some parents may complain about guns being in a E rated game, and adding guns to minecraft may make it rerated Teen instead.
This guy improbably the smartest guy here. It can exist in mods, not vanilla.
Also, I agree minecraft is supposed to based on the olden days where we didn't have guns.
Minecraft would not be a shooter game if they add a gun. That's like saying that all people farm the materials used to make bows and arrows and don't use diamond swords to kill mobs.
Also, saying that there are mods for a suggestion is against the rules.
Durphead has a really good point that is very true:
When the most powerful weapon in the game, as well as a rather common item, is added, everyone uses that weapon. When everyone uses guns, it becomes a shooter game.
That is not
a win-win. This suggestion would change everything. Instead of mining
deep underground for ore you'd be looting dungeons and killing zombie
pigmen for gold. Instead of trying to obtain diamond swords, you'd try
to obtain guns. You'd fight mobs with guns, you'd kill players with
guns. Minecraft would become a shooter game. You can't just do that to
Minecraft and then just say "It's optional, so it's fine." If you want
something to be optional, download a mod!! Don't completely change everything!
Here are examples of some gun mods that you can download instead of changing Minecraft entirely:
How on earth would guns replace the need for ore? You still need armor. And mining gold is just as valid a method of obtaining gold nuggets as
killing Zombie pigmen. Hell, it's a MUCH SAFER alternative to boot.
Also, check back on the original post. The design for ammo has changed to iron paper and gunpowder (based on the voting it looks to stay that way). So that involves mining (or building an iron golem farm), growing/harvesting, and hunting creepers. All activities within Minecraft's core modes of gameplay.
An overpowered Gun WOULD break the game, but the gun CAN be balanced between melee swords and ranged arrows.
Minecraft would NOT become just a shooter game. I mean seriously. Is PVP combat the only way you play Minecraft? My guess here is probably not. Is it the only way everyone plays Minecraft? Obviously not.
There's still, building, mining, crafting, hunting, farming, surviving,
exploring. Some of those aspects would might change slightly with the
addition of guns, maybe. It would NOT become a first person shooter. Quit panicking.
If guns were added to Vanilla Minecraft and if somehow, against all common
sense predicting otherwise, DID become a first person shooter, I'm
pretty sure that Mojang would nerf or remove guns in a following update.
They seem like pretty smart people.
When the most powerful weapon in the game, as well as a rather common item, is added, everyone uses that weapon. When everyone uses guns, it becomes a shooter game.
1.) There is far more to Minecraft than just combat. See above.
2.) This is precisely why guns shouldn't be a "most powerful weapon in the game" but a balanced between swords and bows. Which is precisely why I suggested there be a range limitation on pistols.
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-The flintlock pistol is somewhat inaccurate thereby reducing it's effective range to about 20 blocks real flintlock pistols had this problem reference]. The key point from that link is that rounds from a smooth bore barrel are kind of like a curveball, so the path of a bullet fired from a flintlock pistol in minecraft should be curved slightly in a random direction (still affected by gravity) thus reducing the effective accuracy of the weapon.[some other suggestions... not quoted]
In this way a pistol can not only be a new kind of weapon in minecraft (an uncraftable one no less) but it would have new mechanics to boot and be a much more interesting addition to Vanilla Minecraft.
The range limitation doesn't have to be 20 precisely but it seems like a decent trade off to me personally. Mrlong2 has thankfully added in a firing delay (0.75 seconds) so that the pistols can't just be spammed forever. They are faster than bows and cause the same damage as an arrow shot from a fully drawn bowstring (takes about 1.25 seconds). Add in a range limitation to them and I think they will make combat more interesting via the addition of a midrange weapon.
Support. However, I think that this should be in a mod rather than in vanilla, as it does not really fit the theme of the game. (the game is sort of set in the stone and iron ages until you acquire redstone). Therefore, it does not really make sense. Also, some parents may complain about guns being in a E rated game, and adding guns to minecraft may make it rerated Teen instead.
Ignore redstone for the moment, consider instead the coal fueled steam powered locomotive, or trinitrotoluene (TNT). The presence of both in Minecraft would place it in the mid to late 19th century. Roughly a century after the creation of the flintlock pistol.
However Minecraft isn't really set in any Earth based time period.
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This is probably the first good argument about guns not fitting in Minecraft that I've seen. Just like Minecraft doesn't include blood and gore, it makes sense to not include guns because of reference to real life violence. It is rated E10 after all. But considering this, shouldn't "gunpowder" also not be in the game? Really it should be named something else if Mojang is going down that road.
Like "blast powder", "creeper dust", "explody sand", "pile of BOOM," etc.
I'd be perfectly fine with something other than a "gun" taking place as a mid range weapon in Minecraft, say maybe a cross bow, or some kind of magic thing, or heck, even a slingshot. Naturally though, those wouldn't have anything to do with this thread.
do we want un-responsable parents like this father blame minecraft because now it has actual guns in the game? guns do not have anything to do with minecraft, Notch even said that he discussed with jeb and said that they will not add guns in minecraft
deal with it you don't have much else to say on this post, i am still surprised they a mod has not closed this thread.
I don't believe the actions of irresponsible parents nor paranoia of the possibility of those actions should ever prevent Minecraft from being the best game it can be, whether guns are present in the game or not.
If Mojang doesn't want to add guns, then Mojang won't add guns. In the end it's up to them anyway.
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If I may interject, redundant posts are against the rules.
I am aware of that but if it is a good idea then it should not die off but shouldn't be posted so frequently either.
Did you even read the op?
I partially agree. I think you should have an option of guns if they did come in an update because I think it may become OP if you have a lot of gold, gunpowder, and iron. So it's a win-win.
People who want guns can turn it on in Options.
People who don't want guns can turn it off in Options.
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The mod/resource pack thing is against the rules to say and flintlocks were used alongside swords and bows.
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That is not a win-win. This suggestion would change everything. Instead of mining deep underground for ore you'd be looting dungeons and killing zombie pigmen for gold. Instead of trying to obtain diamond swords, you'd try to obtain guns. You'd fight mobs with guns, you'd kill players with guns. Minecraft would become a shooter game. You can't just do that to Minecraft and then just say "It's optional, so it's fine." If you want something to be optional, download a mod!! Don't completely change everything!
Here are examples of some gun mods that you can download instead of changing Minecraft entirely:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/1287159-1-6-4-ferullos-guns-mod-2-9-2-mp-sp
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/1287801-flintlock-weapons-mod-v1-7pre1-200-000-downloads
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/1287372-1-6-4-basic-guns-mod-1-6-4-updated-fixed
Minecraft would not be a shooter game if they add a gun. That's like saying that all people farm the materials used to make bows and arrows and don't use diamond swords to kill mobs.
Also, saying that there are mods for a suggestion is against the rules.
No support, these reasons are why.
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you may even have a point there but really we are just fine with the armory we currently have in minecraft, guns in general are a sort of rip off, once there was a page on facebook called "give notch idea's on minecraft" it was an old page when notch still was the head on MC (now its jeb), it wasn't very famouse at all, mabey 400 likes on the page, but 1 guy asked to put these antic style guns like a musket, notch said firmly "we have already discussed about this, no guns in minecraft" do not believe me? you have the full right of not believing me as of the page has been eliminated for a reason that i do not know, though i ask you to consider "why would i lie?" to get unreal information? that's immature and irrespectable, have i beenacting in an immature way so far?
yes i know swords and bows are death too but its a mediavel-ish kind of game and really fighting isn't the main thing of minecraft, swords and bows are only for the survival apsect, why add such a sofisticated gun idea to minecraft if killing isn't the main goal? it would be much more sensed giving an idea on building blocks, tools, new ores, not a "gun".
and you know parents, they could blame a video game about pretty much anything you do, they think "my son plays GTA so when he grows up he is going to kill random people on the streets", the father on this article was just simply a jackass and because he didn't want to be blamed himself he gave the fault to the most voilent game that that kid had, a game where you build, have fun with friends, mine and go on a kill rampage occasionally during the night if your in survival without guns
i repeat why add a very sufisticated idea of guns if combat isn't the main thing of minecraft?
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1. swords are for close encounters where there isnt much time to think and react, bows on the other hand are for long raged shooting andare very ineficent at close range, so using time to make a daimond sword is as usefull as giving time to make a bow.
2. it is not "against" the rules, but it preferable not to say "there is a mod for that" without expressing his actual idea's, Alexcamostyle clearly expressed his opinions on even more than one post, so id'e say he mabey "fine" for now.
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When the most powerful weapon in the game, as well as a rather common item, is added, everyone uses that weapon. When everyone uses guns, it becomes a shooter game.
This guy improbably the smartest guy here. It can exist in mods, not vanilla.
Also, I agree minecraft is supposed to based on the olden days where we didn't have guns.
I change my opinion and agree to jh1234l.
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Durphead has a really good point that is very true:
How on earth would guns replace the need for ore? You still need armor. And mining gold is just as valid a method of obtaining gold nuggets as
killing Zombie pigmen. Hell, it's a MUCH SAFER alternative to boot.
Also, check back on the original post. The design for ammo has changed to iron paper and gunpowder (based on the voting it looks to stay that way). So that involves mining (or building an iron golem farm), growing/harvesting, and hunting creepers. All activities within Minecraft's core modes of gameplay.
An overpowered Gun WOULD break the game, but the gun CAN be balanced between melee swords and ranged arrows.
Minecraft would NOT become just a shooter game. I mean seriously. Is PVP combat the only way you play Minecraft? My guess here is probably not. Is it the only way everyone plays Minecraft? Obviously not.
There's still, building, mining, crafting, hunting, farming, surviving,
exploring. Some of those aspects would might change slightly with the
addition of guns, maybe. It would NOT become a first person shooter. Quit panicking.
If guns were added to Vanilla Minecraft and if somehow, against all common
sense predicting otherwise, DID become a first person shooter, I'm
pretty sure that Mojang would nerf or remove guns in a following update.
They seem like pretty smart people.
1.) There is far more to Minecraft than just combat. See above.
2.) This is precisely why guns shouldn't be a "most powerful weapon in the game" but a balanced between swords and bows. Which is precisely why I suggested there be a range limitation on pistols.
The range limitation doesn't have to be 20 precisely but it seems like a decent trade off to me personally. Mrlong2 has thankfully added in a firing delay (0.75 seconds) so that the pistols can't just be spammed forever. They are faster than bows and cause the same damage as an arrow shot from a fully drawn bowstring (takes about 1.25 seconds). Add in a range limitation to them and I think they will make combat more interesting via the addition of a midrange weapon.
Ignore redstone for the moment, consider instead the coal fueled steam powered locomotive, or trinitrotoluene (TNT). The presence of both in Minecraft would place it in the mid to late 19th century. Roughly a century after the creation of the flintlock pistol.
However Minecraft isn't really set in any Earth based time period.
This is probably the first good argument about guns not fitting in Minecraft that I've seen. Just like Minecraft doesn't include blood and gore, it makes sense to not include guns because of reference to real life violence. It is rated E10 after all. But considering this, shouldn't "gunpowder" also not be in the game? Really it should be named something else if Mojang is going down that road.
Like "blast powder", "creeper dust", "explody sand", "pile of BOOM," etc.
I'd be perfectly fine with something other than a "gun" taking place as a mid range weapon in Minecraft, say maybe a cross bow, or some kind of magic thing, or heck, even a slingshot. Naturally though, those wouldn't have anything to do with this thread.
I don't believe the actions of irresponsible parents nor paranoia of the possibility of those actions should ever prevent Minecraft from being the best game it can be, whether guns are present in the game or not.
If Mojang doesn't want to add guns, then Mojang won't add guns. In the end it's up to them anyway.