He said so nearly 4 years ago, he isn´t currently in the Minecraft development team and he could have/can change his mind.
Again, I say:
I seriously doubt Mojang would ever add guns to Minecraft. Even though Notch isn't the devoloper anymore, he's probably hired everyone who currently works on the game, and he wouldn't give his title to Jeb if he would change Minecraft like that.
im gunna support this, even though I would like to see a lower durability, lower shooting speed and higher damage, with both look variants (gold and iron, which wouldn't make big of a difference, but gold looks fancy :3 )
Gold does look kind of good doesn't it? After I drew the iron one, though, my heart kind of settled on it.
AFAIK, the flintlock technology was outdated by the WW1, as there were already bolt-action guns such as the German Gewehr 98 or the British Lee-Enfield, and, by the end of it, there were already SMGs, such as the MP 18, while recoil-operated machine guns already existed for some time, such as the Maxim gun or the MG 08. And it is just the guns. ...[Blah Blah Blah]
Oh, yes, totally true.
It never ceases to amaze me that there are a seemingly endless supply of people who know more than me about something.
Why does it take you so long to respond to a post? I call bump.
dude not everyone is a little kid or neckbeard playing minecraft all day in mom's basement, making dumb suggestions on minecrafts forums, some ppl got a life y'know?
5 day old thread is not a bump
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Top 5 priority of minecraft:
1- Finish the mod API
2- Give brains to villagers (make em more usefull)
3- Add ambiance: birds, fishes, bugs, crabs on beaches, monkeys in jungles...
4- More plants! Aquatic, any fruit tree, bushes....
dude not everyone is a little kid or neckbeard playing minecraft all day in mom's basement, making dumb suggestions on minecrafts forums, some ppl got a life y'know?
5 day old thread is not a bump
Yeah you're probably right, but he's done this at least three times.
no, it doesn't matter if you put foto's and that you have put work into it, it has already been suggested so many times, but so many times that only emerald equipment is more suggested, this is just stupid and OP, i would never want this in minecraft, guns are the resemblance of "pain", "death" we already have 1 ranged weapon that is a bow, now we are fine with the killing equipment we already have in MC, and swords are already enough bloodthirsty but guns, "GUNS" is not a plausible thing as also kids play minecraft
do we want un-responsable parents like this father blame minecraft because now it has actual guns in the game? guns do not have anything to do with minecraft, Notch even said that he discussed with jeb and said that they will not add guns in minecraft
deal with it you don't have much else to say on this post, i am still surprised they a mod has not closed this thread.
Oh my goodness, that's stupid. haven't you seen a Zombie pigman?
Like so many others have stated, guns do not belong in Minecraft. Even if it would make the game somewhat less family-friendly, I think it would just be pretty out-of-place with all the armor, swords, bows, and whatnot. If it's so important to you to have guns in the game, find or make a mod or resource pack. No support.
That is not a win-win. This suggestion would change everything. Instead of mining deep underground for ore you'd be looting dungeons and killing zombie pigmen for gold. Instead of trying to obtain diamond swords, you'd try to obtain guns. You'd fight mobs with guns, you'd kill players with guns. Minecraft would become a shooter game. You can't just do that to Minecraft and then just say "It's optional, so it's fine." If you want something to be optional, download a mod!! Don't completely change everything!
Here are examples of some gun mods that you can download instead of changing Minecraft entirely:
Support. However, I think that this should be in a mod rather than in vanilla, as it does not really fit the theme of the game. (the game is sort of set in the stone and iron ages until you acquire redstone). Therefore, it does not really make sense. Also, some parents may complain about guns being in a E rated game, and adding guns to minecraft may make it rerated Teen instead.
When the most powerful weapon in the game, as well as a rather common item, is added, everyone uses that weapon. When everyone uses guns, it becomes a shooter game.
This guy improbably the smartest guy here. It can exist in mods, not vanilla.
Also, I agree minecraft is supposed to based on the olden days where we didn't have guns.
I change my opinion and agree to jh1234l.
Chinese had explosive projectile weapons really early.
Change the game? Sure. "Completely different focus?" I think not.
It's just as possible to have that same problem now with somebody using a bow. It's an inherent risk on any server with PVP enabled.
It's really not as much of a potential catastrophe as you're making it out to be. You seem to think that guns will inherently make players naturally more violent and bloodthirsty or something.
I didn't address this before because I didn't really want to bother, but since you seem to be thinking "Flintlock Pistol" = Sniper Rifle (aka one hit kill from really far away) in terms of lethality so...
Where did you even get this number?
Let me quote the original post (it may have been edited since you last looked at it.)
Damage of the pistol as stated on the original post:
So its base damage is slightly greater than 1/2 that of a fully drawn bow (9 damage, or 4.5 hearts). The DPS of a flintlock pistol is then 6.67.
According to Minecraft forum user DemonXeron, it takes 1.2 seconds to fully charge a bow to fire for it's maximum damage.
Taking that into account using a bow with only fully charged shots, which has the greatest range any bowshot, a player could achieve a maximum DPS of 7.5.
Interesting, now that I actually took the time to do the math it seems pistols would not be the most powerful weapon in the game. Definitely not twice the damage of a diamond sword.
Further a bow can be enchanted up to Power V increasing it's per shot damage up to a whopping 23 increasing its DPS to 19.12 if you spend enough time with an anvil and enchanting turns out a bow is superior. A bow with even a power I enchantment (14 damage, 11.67 DPS) is far superior.
(Is that where you got 14 damage from, is there mention somewhere in this thread about the pistol being as strong as a bow with the Power I enchantment? Checking back through pages and running some in text searches it doesn't seem like that number ever came up before you posted it...)
The OP never mentioned anything about guns being enchantable so I'm assuming they're not. Even if they could be enchanted with the same Power enchant, they'd still be weaker than bows for every equivalent enchanting level, in fact they'd scale linearly with bow damage always remaining just over half as strong as bows having a slightly lower max DPS than bows.
I guess then the only effective difference between a pistol (as described in the OP) and a bow is the increased rate of fire, better for mid range combat, and probably a faster projectile overall, requiring less lead time on distant targets. But this is all pure speculation, there's nothing saying this in the OP.
Feel free to correct my math if I made mistakes or otherwise correct me if I ended up with the wrong impression again.
Oh yeah, my bad. still, you must find a dungeon, and when was the last time you found something useful in a dungeon?
I find dungeons all the time. And in 1.8, you have the option to make dungeons very plentiful in the customized world option:
The red circles are showing where the dungeons are. And this is not a lucky seed; it's like this everywhere. I also just looked in one of the dungeon chests and found something useful: an enchanted book.
Guns DO NOT FIT IN MINECRAFT. The idea is to challenge yourself when armed only with a sword against mobs. Not with a gun where you can go on a killing spree. That's unfair to the mobs. No support
I find dungeons all the time. And in 1.8, you have the option to make dungeons very plentiful in the customized world option:
The red circles are showing where the dungeons are. And this is not a lucky seed; it's like this everywhere. I also just looked in one of the dungeon chests and found something useful: an enchanted book.
That's a really nice photo, at least we know who is a Xrays
Guns DO NOT FIT IN MINECRAFT. The idea is to challenge yourself when armed only with a sword against mobs. Not with a gun where you can go on a killing spree. That's unfair to the mobs. No support
But guns would be. My point is, I found a rare treasure in a dungeon, and very fast. My other point (which you still haven't responded to) is that in 1.8, you have the option to make dungeons veryplentiful, meaning tons of guns, which is unbalanced.
P.S.
One more thing. You keep on saying "what about rails and minecarts?" and "do minecarts fit in the game?" They do in my opinion. It's Minecraft. It makes sense to add minecarts into the game. Minecarts are for mining, an essential thing in Minecraft. Guns don't have anything to do with anything in the game.
Again, I say:
I seriously doubt Mojang would ever add guns to Minecraft. Even though Notch isn't the devoloper anymore, he's probably hired everyone who currently works on the game, and he wouldn't give his title to Jeb if he would change Minecraft like that.
If guns added into Minecraft, I can't imagine multiplayer would turn into WW1 warfare or missile might added into future update.
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Uhh, flintlocks in WW1? Check that.
thanks!
Gold does look kind of good doesn't it? After I drew the iron one, though, my heart kind of settled on it.
Oh, yes, totally true.
It never ceases to amaze me that there are a seemingly endless supply of people who know more than me about something.
There is mods for that, leave vanilla free of firearms weapons. minecraft isn't the USA
NO Support
1- Finish the mod API
2- Give brains to villagers (make em more usefull)
3- Add ambiance: birds, fishes, bugs, crabs on beaches, monkeys in jungles...
4- More plants! Aquatic, any fruit tree, bushes....
5- Ambiant sounds!
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My supports
Why does it take you so long to respond to a post? I call bump.
dude not everyone is a little kid or neckbeard playing minecraft all day in mom's basement, making dumb suggestions on minecrafts forums, some ppl got a life y'know?
5 day old thread is not a bump
1- Finish the mod API
2- Give brains to villagers (make em more usefull)
3- Add ambiance: birds, fishes, bugs, crabs on beaches, monkeys in jungles...
4- More plants! Aquatic, any fruit tree, bushes....
5- Ambiant sounds!
____________________________________________
My supports
Yeah you're probably right, but he's done this at least three times.
Oh my goodness, that's stupid. haven't you seen a Zombie pigman?
Made 'em myself, Thank you.
Where did they get all the ammo?
Gotta find a stronghold there, stud. only strongholds have guns. EDIT: or a dungeon.
What about the rails and minecarts?
The max is like, 3 per world.
Chinese had explosive projectile weapons really early.
Tanks for your opinion.
The point is a better/Different projectile weapon.
that's better than none.
Hmm. why did I quote you?
Nice math. I'll quote you in the OP.
You're impossible. You said yourself: Dungeons and strongholds. It's right there in the OP.
Oh yeah, my bad. still, you must find a dungeon, and when was the last time you found something useful in a dungeon?
I find dungeons all the time. And in 1.8, you have the option to make dungeons very plentiful in the customized world option:
The red circles are showing where the dungeons are. And this is not a lucky seed; it's like this everywhere. I also just looked in one of the dungeon chests and found something useful: an enchanted book.
That's a really nice photo, at least we know who is a Xrays
Nah!
But Minecarts do?
It is /gamemode 3, otherwise known as Spectator Mode, and it is in the latest snapshots.
And actually answer my argument, perhaps?
honestly, enchanted books aren't that useful.
Game mode 3, I shoulda thought of that.
But guns would be. My point is, I found a rare treasure in a dungeon, and very fast. My other point (which you still haven't responded to) is that in 1.8, you have the option to make dungeons veryplentiful, meaning tons of guns, which is unbalanced.
P.S.
One more thing. You keep on saying "what about rails and minecarts?" and "do minecarts fit in the game?" They do in my opinion. It's Minecraft. It makes sense to add minecarts into the game. Minecarts are for mining, an essential thing in Minecraft. Guns don't have anything to do with anything in the game.
I agree.
However it is a good idea and would make a good mod.