I am planning on adding colored sand to extended 2x2 crafting (which can in turn be smelted to create colored glass) The recipe is pretty basic, so the big thing is going to be making the graphics. Once I finish that I'll add it to the list.
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nice but you should switch the pick crafting picture and the hatchet crafting picture.
I would like to suggest an alternative to the satchel. You could add a back slot to the inventory. You could the either equip a backpack, which would add ten slots to your inventory, or a quiver, which would then be neccesary for shooting arrows. The backpack could be made with four refined leather, which would be made with four leather, so it would effectivley take sixteen leather to make.
The idea for the backpack has been tossed out before. I don't like it since you're just crafting the item once and then never using the recipe again. (until you die, i suppose) Even if it did exist, it shouldn't be something that is covered by the 2x2 grid, especially when all you do is just put 16 pieces of leather together. That's not a backpack, that's a huge leather sheet/blanket/box/bag.
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, and I really don't have time to read 29 pages, but wouldn't this be a fairly easy mod. I realize this defeats the point of being available early in the game, but maybe if someone did the coding, it would be even easier for Notch to add, and people who want it for other reasons can use it in the mean time.
Some features are incredibly easy(flint, saplings to sticks, trowel, hand pick, and bowdrill) but some of the best stuff is much less easy (shields, portable grill, satchels, torch & glowstone arrows, etc) I'm not really interested in getting a mod pushed out that only does the cheap half of the list properly and all the cool stuff gets its functionality and balancing hacked apart in order to work.
i don't even see how that applies to this. You basically have 2 choices; either you do like the ideas in this thread enough to want Notch to add them, or you don't. If you don't, then vote that you don't support it.
Indeed. But it's "I like this idea" and then there's "There are too many problems with this idea". I dislike the idea because I like the idea of having to use a workbench.
so there currently isn't even a single functional item that can be obtained through the 2x2 crafting grid alone.
Which is also false, you can make torches, dye, bonemeal, planks, sticks. sandstone, snow block jackolantern, flint and steel, powered and storange minecarts, buttons, levers, redstone torch, sugar and all the different colored wool blocks.
Indeed. But it's "I like this idea" and then there's "There are too many problems with this idea". I dislike the idea because I like the idea of having to use a workbench.
so there currently isn't even a single functional item that can be obtained through the 2x2 crafting grid alone.
Which is also false, you can make torches, dye, bonemeal, planks, sticks. sandstone, snow block jackolantern, flint and steel, powered and storange minecarts, buttons, levers, redstone torch, sugar and all the different colored wool blocks.
Bonemeal is a dye.
He is saying that making bonemeal out of bones only requites the 2x2 grid.
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I once saw a chicken push a creeper off of a cliff. I never looked at chickens the same way ever again. That is of course until I needed feathers.
Indeed. But it's "I like this idea" and then there's "There are too many problems with this idea". I dislike the idea because I like the idea of having to use a workbench.
then it sounds like you have too many problems with this idea to support it.
Unless of course you feel it's worth supporting anyway.
so there currently isn't even a single functional item that can be obtained through the 2x2 crafting grid alone.
Which is also false, you can make torches, dye, bonemeal, planks, sticks. sandstone, snow block jackolantern, flint and steel, powered and storange minecarts, buttons, levers, redstone torch, sugar and all the different colored wool blocks.
Hahaha, do you really think that you were the first person to try to refute this point? The keywords are "Functional" and "Alone" Torches - requires either a Wooden Pickaxe or better to gather coal, or a furnace to make charcoal from wood, both of which require the workbench. DENIED! Planks - this is a building block, not a functional item. FURTHER DENIED! Sticks - this is purely a crafting item and has no function on its own at all. SIMPLY DENIED! Sandstone - this is a building block, not a functional item. COPY-PASTE DENIED! SnowBlocks - this is a building block, not a functional item AND it can only be obtained if you first build a shovel to gather snowballs with, which requires the workbench to make. EXTRA DENIED! Jackolantern - This requires a Torch, which in turn requires either a Wooden Pickaxe or better to gather coal, or a furnace to make charcoal from wood, both of which require the workbench to make. RECURSIVELY DENIED! Flint & Steel - This requires a Stone Pickaxe or better to gather the Iron Ore AND requires a furnace to smelt the iron, both of which require the workbench to make. DOUBLE DENIED! Powered & Storage Minecarts - This requires a Stone Pickaxe or better to gather the Iron Ore AND requires a furnace to smelt the iron, and requires the workbench to make the minecart from that iron, AND requires either a Chest or Furnace to craft the minecart with which both require a workbench to make. QUADRUPLE DENIED! Buttons - Requires a furnace to smelt cobblestone into smooth stone, which requires the workbench to make. STILL DENIED! Lever - Already mentioned under my few exceptions, but it still requires at least a Wooden Pickaxe to mine the cobblestone unless you're willing to get a creeper to blow up enough for you (which can't happen on peaceful mode) and even then, unless you use the workbench to build TNT or a Door or a dispenser or something, what are you going to use the lever to operate? TECHNICALLY DENIED! Redstone Torch - Requires Iron PIckaxe or better to mine the redstone ore which requires workbench to make and a furnace for smelting the ore which also requires a workbench to make, etc. FALCON DENIED! Sugar - has no functional purpose and only can be used to craft cake, which requires a workbench to make. SWEETLY DENIED! Bonemeal - Can make trees grow faster, but they already do that on their own if you wait a bit, and you can't currently obtain bones if you play on peaceful. PATIENTLY DENIED! Dyes(both their own crafting and their use on wool) - Still just a building block or purely aesthetic which is not the same as a functional item. FOREVER DENIED!
The idea for the backpack has been tossed out before. I don't like it since you're just crafting the item once and then never using the recipe again. (until you die, i suppose) Even if it did exist, it shouldn't be something that is covered by the 2x2 grid, especially when all you do is just put 16 pieces of leather together. That's not a backpack, that's a huge leather sheet/blanket/box/bag.
Good point. (Although it would be affected by a slow durability drain while equipped).
The idea for the backpack has been tossed out before. I don't like it since you're just crafting the item once and then never using the recipe again. (until you die, i suppose) Even if it did exist, it shouldn't be something that is covered by the 2x2 grid, especially when all you do is just put 16 pieces of leather together. That's not a backpack, that's a huge leather sheet/blanket/box/bag.
Good point. (Although it would be affected by a slow durability drain while equipped).
I actually have an incredibly detailed idea for how backpacks should be handled, but that's an entirely different idea and I'm still getting the graphics done before I post it.
Indeed. But it's "I like this idea" and then there's "There are too many problems with this idea". I dislike the idea because I like the idea of having to use a workbench.
then it sounds like you have too many problems with this idea to support it.
Unless of course you feel it's worth supporting anyway.
so there currently isn't even a single functional item that can be obtained through the 2x2 crafting grid alone.
Which is also false, you can make torches, dye, bonemeal, planks, sticks. sandstone, snow block jackolantern, flint and steel, powered and storange minecarts, buttons, levers, redstone torch, sugar and all the different colored wool blocks.
Hahaha, do you really think that you were the first person to try to refute this point? The keywords are "Functional" and "Alone" Torches - requires either a Wooden Pickaxe or better to gather coal, or a furnace to make charcoal from wood, both of which require the workbench. DENIED! Planks - this is a building block, not a functional item. FURTHER DENIED! Sticks - this is purely a crafting item and has no function on its own at all. SIMPLY DENIED! Sandstone - this is a building block, not a functional item. COPY-PASTE DENIED! SnowBlocks - this is a building block, not a functional item AND it can only be obtained if you first build a shovel to gather snowballs with, which requires the workbench to make. EXTRA DENIED! Jackolantern - This requires a Torch, which in turn requires either a Wooden Pickaxe or better to gather coal, or a furnace to make charcoal from wood, both of which require the workbench to make. RECURSIVELY DENIED! Flint & Steel - This requires a Stone Pickaxe or better to gather the Iron Ore AND requires a furnace to smelt the iron, both of which require the workbench to make. DOUBLE DENIED! Powered & Storage Minecarts - This requires a Stone Pickaxe or better to gather the Iron Ore AND requires a furnace to smelt the iron, and requires the workbench to make the minecart from that iron, AND requires either a Chest or Furnace to craft the minecart with which both require a workbench to make. QUADRUPLE DENIED! Buttons - Requires a furnace to smelt cobblestone into smooth stone, which requires the workbench to make. STILL DENIED! Lever - Already mentioned under my few exceptions, but it still requires at least a Wooden Pickaxe to mine the cobblestone unless you're willing to get a creeper to blow up enough for you (which can't happen on peaceful mode) and even then, unless you use the workbench to build TNT or a Door or a dispenser or something, what are you going to use the lever to operate? TECHNICALLY DENIED! Redstone Torch - Requires Iron PIckaxe or better to mine the redstone ore which requires workbench to make and a furnace for smelting the ore which also requires a workbench to make, etc. FALCON DENIED! Sugar - has no functional purpose and only can be used to craft cake, which requires a workbench to make. SWEETLY DENIED! Bonemeal - Can make trees grow faster, but they already do that on their own if you wait a bit, and you can't currently obtain bones if you play on peaceful. PATIENTLY DENIED! Dyes(both their own crafting and their use on wool) - Still just a building block or purely aesthetic which is not the same as a functional item. FOREVER DENIED!
So this mod makes it so you don't need to gather/prepare stuff? And the thing about bonemeal was just stupid.
So this mod makes it so you don't need to gather/prepare stuff? And the thing about bonemeal was just stupid.
As mentioned, it's not a mod, but no, it just means that you have other options to still delve into some of the basics of minecraft without NEEDING the workbench. There are still other things that do need a workbench, like ladders, minecarts, boats, jukeboxes, etc. This is fine, the extended 2x2 grid isn't meant to make the workbench pointless, but merely to pull it away from NEEDING to be THE VERY FIRST THING YOU CRAFT, so it wont have to be "Start Minecraft, Make workbench, start playing, start minecraft make a workbench,start playing, repeat forever"
instead it would be "start minecraft, make a workbench or a trowel or a hand pick or a dagger or a boomerang or small shield or some direction markers or a number of items that are available"
And of course there are also a couple other items that do their own thing.
I like but if i were to change some thing id make powder bombs more like a flash bang with a little damage and add fire arrows as shown it would only count as one use for the F&S and sets an enemy on fire as long as the F&S does
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bacon= leather. Cooked bacon = refined leather.
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i don't even see how that applies to this. You basically have 2 choices; either you do like the ideas in this thread enough to want Notch to add them, or you don't. If you don't, then vote that you don't support it.
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Which is also false, you can make torches, dye, bonemeal, planks, sticks. sandstone, snow block jackolantern, flint and steel, powered and storange minecarts, buttons, levers, redstone torch, sugar and all the different colored wool blocks.
He is saying that making bonemeal out of bones only requites the 2x2 grid.
Unless of course you feel it's worth supporting anyway.
Hahaha, do you really think that you were the first person to try to refute this point? The keywords are "Functional" and "Alone"
Torches - requires either a Wooden Pickaxe or better to gather coal, or a furnace to make charcoal from wood, both of which require the workbench. DENIED!
Planks - this is a building block, not a functional item. FURTHER DENIED!
Sticks - this is purely a crafting item and has no function on its own at all. SIMPLY DENIED!
Sandstone - this is a building block, not a functional item. COPY-PASTE DENIED!
SnowBlocks - this is a building block, not a functional item AND it can only be obtained if you first build a shovel to gather snowballs with, which requires the workbench to make. EXTRA DENIED!
Jackolantern - This requires a Torch, which in turn requires either a Wooden Pickaxe or better to gather coal, or a furnace to make charcoal from wood, both of which require the workbench to make. RECURSIVELY DENIED!
Flint & Steel - This requires a Stone Pickaxe or better to gather the Iron Ore AND requires a furnace to smelt the iron, both of which require the workbench to make. DOUBLE DENIED!
Powered & Storage Minecarts - This requires a Stone Pickaxe or better to gather the Iron Ore AND requires a furnace to smelt the iron, and requires the workbench to make the minecart from that iron, AND requires either a Chest or Furnace to craft the minecart with which both require a workbench to make. QUADRUPLE DENIED!
Buttons - Requires a furnace to smelt cobblestone into smooth stone, which requires the workbench to make. STILL DENIED!
Lever - Already mentioned under my few exceptions, but it still requires at least a Wooden Pickaxe to mine the cobblestone unless you're willing to get a creeper to blow up enough for you (which can't happen on peaceful mode) and even then, unless you use the workbench to build TNT or a Door or a dispenser or something, what are you going to use the lever to operate? TECHNICALLY DENIED!
Redstone Torch - Requires Iron PIckaxe or better to mine the redstone ore which requires workbench to make and a furnace for smelting the ore which also requires a workbench to make, etc. FALCON DENIED!
Sugar - has no functional purpose and only can be used to craft cake, which requires a workbench to make. SWEETLY DENIED!
Bonemeal - Can make trees grow faster, but they already do that on their own if you wait a bit, and you can't currently obtain bones if you play on peaceful. PATIENTLY DENIED!
Dyes(both their own crafting and their use on wool) - Still just a building block or purely aesthetic which is not the same as a functional item. FOREVER DENIED!
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Good point. (Although it would be affected by a slow durability drain while equipped).
I actually have an incredibly detailed idea for how backpacks should be handled, but that's an entirely different idea and I'm still getting the graphics done before I post it.
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So this mod makes it so you don't need to gather/prepare stuff? And the thing about bonemeal was just stupid.
Its a suggestion for the full game not a mod.
As mentioned, it's not a mod, but no, it just means that you have other options to still delve into some of the basics of minecraft without NEEDING the workbench. There are still other things that do need a workbench, like ladders, minecarts, boats, jukeboxes, etc. This is fine, the extended 2x2 grid isn't meant to make the workbench pointless, but merely to pull it away from NEEDING to be THE VERY FIRST THING YOU CRAFT, so it wont have to be "Start Minecraft, Make workbench, start playing, start minecraft make a workbench,start playing, repeat forever"
instead it would be "start minecraft, make a workbench or a trowel or a hand pick or a dagger or a boomerang or small shield or some direction markers or a number of items that are available"
And of course there are also a couple other items that do their own thing.
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