Three big problems:
-It's made using a Mod
-It's just an Adder (single-function ALU)
-It's not your creation
Ignoring the Mod issue for now, the reason that this won't work on this list is that although the display is impressive, it is not a computer. It's just a 16-Bit Adder which would be part of an ALU, which is part of a CPU which is part of a computer.
If somebody made an impressive Computer using that Mod, then we'd start having an interesting debate about the merits of Mods. However, it's not even a full ALU. That's not to say it's not an admirable piece of work...just that it isn't a Computer.
Lastly, this would need to be submitted by its creator. If the person who made this has made a computing machine using this mod, you should contact them and ask them to submit it.
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Hans Lemurson's Thread of Links:http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/371610-hans-lemursons-thread-of-links/
Look here to find links to my inventions, creations, and my Youtube channel featuring Amazing Creations of Mine (Redstone engineering FTW!!!) and charming Music-Videos about clones. I also made "Minecraft in Minecraft" (2D platformer/building game). I'm currently trying to make a computer.
added.
but do note, XNOR and XOR only count as 1 operation. and so does (x^2) and (x*y), because every possible operation of (x^2) can also be done with (x*y).
holy crap ive never noticed this on the mod page but this is an epic adding machine not mine and i just think it belongs here
Hans is right.
and i'll say it again, if you do make a computer with this mod, it will have to be *really* good for it to be accepted by people.
and to the people who say it shouldn't be allowed because it uses a mod:
i used a world editor. yes it's different, but they both do the same thing, which is to make it easier to build stuff. he still has to build all the parts of a computer, and get them to work together. THAT, is what i think is the greatest achievement. that said, if he only makes an ALU or a weak CPU, i won't be putting it on the list.
The variable CPU speed is certainly hard to characterize. Did you measure the 250 milliHertz yourself during a calculation, or are you just providing a conservative estimate?
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Hans Lemurson's Thread of Links:http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/371610-hans-lemursons-thread-of-links/
Look here to find links to my inventions, creations, and my Youtube channel featuring Amazing Creations of Mine (Redstone engineering FTW!!!) and charming Music-Videos about clones. I also made "Minecraft in Minecraft" (2D platformer/building game). I'm currently trying to make a computer.
ALU can add, subtract, AND, XOR, bi directional bit-shifting, and many variations. 11 different operations. (edit: added RNG)
CPU has two registers.
The RAM is connected to 2 user inputs and a display.
Total size is 112x57x48 blocks
very nice. i added it to the list. i put the clock speed as "0.222Hz <-> 0.333Hz", and the number of operations at 8. it is very hard to make the operations parameter meaning full because of all the different instruction sets out there. i try to only count things that can't be done by using other operations, and are useful. i counted the logic operations (4), add/sub (2), and shifting (2). i didn't count the RNG because it doesn't really operate on the inputs (i didn't count it for my computer either).
if i could make a request, can you explain what the 'C' and 'A' instructions are used for, and how they are different? And where you have the example programs in your thread (Fibonacci and multiplication) could you put the machine code (1's and 0's) next to the assembly code so it is easy to see how one would write the programs into the computer?
Is the SPARTAN 8 being added? I'm a bit confused on this, seeing as YuriKahn has posted a few times and I'm not seeing it on the list (having a 20 tick clock, IIRC, it would be considered the fastest CPU on the list at .5 Hz). Btw, a milliHertz should really just be mHz, according to SI standards. Note the difference between mHz and MHz (MegaHertz), of course.
Also, I want to know, what is the controversy over mods in CPUs? I would feel that mods are fine, assuming they don't implement crazy-powerful features (i.e. external or sign-based scripting, as in CraftBook); if it simply adds logic gates and perhaps timers, then it only implements features already available, just faster and more compact. Of course, it's a pretty big departure from classical redstone, but it adds features sorely needed (wire-crossing and vertical wiring, for instance). Their use would be limited, even, considering the advantages of 3D circuits (slipping in XOR/AND/NOT outputs as part of an adder, for instance, or allowing multiple output/input configurations to [ironically] maximize space efficiency).
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I am themuffin reincarnated, thanks to the stupid necessary Curse merger, my memory, and my privacy paranoia concerns.
known issues:
when saving to ram(NOT loading from ram!) the value must be programed in backwards!
meany more, since it is a beta version and i simply cannot figure out why sertain things are not working.
known issues:
when saving to ram(NOT loading from ram!) the value must be programed in backwards!
meany more, since it is a beta version and i simply cannot figure out why sertain things are not working.
can someone help me?
NVM, most bugs fixed in 1.1 and in manual. some more bugs i found will be fixed in 1.2.
can you add this to the list?
EDIT: version 1.2 will also have a faster clock speed!
sorry everyone for my absence and lack of maintenance on this thread.
when i started this thread, there weren't that many computers. but as the number increases, the list becomes more unreadable and it causes more work for me.
so i am stopping work on this list. if someone wants, they can create a new list, and maintain it themselves.
if this is done, contact the guy who runs the 'Thread O Links', and ask him to change the link to the new thread.
*sorry to all the newer people who have asked to have their designs put on the list, but the list will no longer be updated.
sorry everyone for my absence and lack of maintenance on this thread.
when i started this thread, there weren't that many computers. but as the number increases, the list becomes more unreadable and it causes more work for me.
so i am stopping work on this list. if someone wants, they can create a new list, and maintain it themselves.
if this is done, contact the guy who runs the 'Thread O Links', and ask him to change the link to the new thread.
*sorry to all the newer people who have asked to have their designs put on the list, but the list will no longer be updated.
thanks for your support. :smile.gif:
great. just when i finished mine.
I am willing to *try* and make a list, but only of computers, to prevent too meany entries.
im thinking of making the ranking like this:
bits:
RAM slots:
program memory slots:
program langwige:
program bits:
conditional branching:
ALU functions:
other functions:
special features:
worth noting:
clock speed:
support/help: (manual, well known code type, explained)
video: (spoiler with video goes here)
I'm planning on making this now.
I will probably need people to re-post their computers on my link page thing, in that format. (don't steal the format, my idea!)
Is the SPARTAN 8 being added? I'm a bit confused on this, seeing as YuriKahn has posted a few times and I'm not seeing it on the list (having a 20 tick clock, IIRC, it would be considered the fastest CPU on the list at .5 Hz).
SPARTAN 8 was never fully debugged, and so doesn't really count.
-It's made using a Mod
-It's just an Adder (single-function ALU)
-It's not your creation
Ignoring the Mod issue for now, the reason that this won't work on this list is that although the display is impressive, it is not a computer. It's just a 16-Bit Adder which would be part of an ALU, which is part of a CPU which is part of a computer.
If somebody made an impressive Computer using that Mod, then we'd start having an interesting debate about the merits of Mods. However, it's not even a full ALU. That's not to say it's not an admirable piece of work...just that it isn't a Computer.
Lastly, this would need to be submitted by its creator. If the person who made this has made a computing machine using this mod, you should contact them and ask them to submit it.
Look here to find links to my inventions, creations, and my Youtube channel featuring Amazing Creations of Mine (Redstone engineering FTW!!!) and charming Music-Videos about clones. I also made "Minecraft in Minecraft" (2D platformer/building game). I'm currently trying to make a computer.
can you give me the specifications so i can add it?
added.
but do note, XNOR and XOR only count as 1 operation. and so does (x^2) and (x*y), because every possible operation of (x^2) can also be done with (x*y).
Hans is right.
and i'll say it again, if you do make a computer with this mod, it will have to be *really* good for it to be accepted by people.
and to the people who say it shouldn't be allowed because it uses a mod:
i used a world editor. yes it's different, but they both do the same thing, which is to make it easier to build stuff. he still has to build all the parts of a computer, and get them to work together. THAT, is what i think is the greatest achievement. that said, if he only makes an ALU or a weak CPU, i won't be putting it on the list.
Things with mods like those shouldn't count, I don't care.
I thought it was like infinite power distance or faster redstone or something.
Look here to find links to my inventions, creations, and my Youtube channel featuring Amazing Creations of Mine (Redstone engineering FTW!!!) and charming Music-Videos about clones. I also made "Minecraft in Minecraft" (2D platformer/building game). I'm currently trying to make a computer.
very nice. i added it to the list. i put the clock speed as "0.222Hz <-> 0.333Hz", and the number of operations at 8. it is very hard to make the operations parameter meaning full because of all the different instruction sets out there. i try to only count things that can't be done by using other operations, and are useful. i counted the logic operations (4), add/sub (2), and shifting (2). i didn't count the RNG because it doesn't really operate on the inputs (i didn't count it for my computer either).
if i could make a request, can you explain what the 'C' and 'A' instructions are used for, and how they are different? And where you have the example programs in your thread (Fibonacci and multiplication) could you put the machine code (1's and 0's) next to the assembly code so it is easy to see how one would write the programs into the computer?
-Salaja
i just had a look, and it seems i changes my marking style. i've re-graded yours at 11 operations (i'm assuming it can do XNOR as well).
and with the 'A' instructions only being able to load 15 bits of data, how do you load 16 bits of data into memory? or is your ALU only 15 bits wide?
the specs are in the earlier post
check out the new four bit CPU also. thanks salaja
First off, keeping things open source here is the schematic.
Specs:
Four-Bit (duh)
30-35 ticks
My own architecture, not like some people who just re-use hack (cough, Yuri, cough :biggrin.gif: )
Two 8-bit registers
Alu Functions:
And, Or, Add, Subtract
Here's the link:
If you need any more info, just ask. Also, keep an eye out for my 8-bit computer, it should be finished sometime this week.
Thanks,
-jomeister15
Also, I want to know, what is the controversy over mods in CPUs? I would feel that mods are fine, assuming they don't implement crazy-powerful features (i.e. external or sign-based scripting, as in CraftBook); if it simply adds logic gates and perhaps timers, then it only implements features already available, just faster and more compact. Of course, it's a pretty big departure from classical redstone, but it adds features sorely needed (wire-crossing and vertical wiring, for instance). Their use would be limited, even, considering the advantages of 3D circuits (slipping in XOR/AND/NOT outputs as part of an adder, for instance, or allowing multiple output/input configurations to [ironically] maximize space efficiency).
stupidnecessary Curse merger, my memory, and my privacyparanoiaconcerns.well, I have made a COMPUTER now!
the specs:
CPU/ALU: arentel 1008, 10 bit 8 function
GPU: ANDEX 2D-lux, 4 bit, 4 draw modes and 2 RAM modes.
RAM: 150 bits of writable memory, 15 slots.
Flash: 1320 bits of program ROM, 60 slots
Size: very big
Default clock speed: 17.8 seconds (overclockable)
the video:
the link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/636926-10-bit-redstone-computer-with-basic-gpugame-support/
known issues:
when saving to ram(NOT loading from ram!) the value must be programed in backwards!
meany more, since it is a beta version and i simply cannot figure out why sertain things are not working.
can someone help me?
NVM, most bugs fixed in 1.1 and in manual. some more bugs i found will be fixed in 1.2.
can you add this to the list?
EDIT: version 1.2 will also have a faster clock speed!
when i started this thread, there weren't that many computers. but as the number increases, the list becomes more unreadable and it causes more work for me.
so i am stopping work on this list. if someone wants, they can create a new list, and maintain it themselves.
if this is done, contact the guy who runs the 'Thread O Links', and ask him to change the link to the new thread.
*sorry to all the newer people who have asked to have their designs put on the list, but the list will no longer be updated.
thanks for your support. :smile.gif:
great. just when i finished mine.
I am willing to *try* and make a list, but only of computers, to prevent too meany entries.
im thinking of making the ranking like this:
I'm planning on making this now.
I will probably need people to re-post their computers on my link page thing, in that format. (don't steal the format, my idea!)
whud anyone mind that?
EDIT: made it, post your computers here!:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/689667-list-of-minecraft-computers/
SPARTAN 8 was never fully debugged, and so doesn't really count.
So heres mine:
LINK
stats: 4096 pixels, 16 different colors, only 1 operation (more to come).
THE MICRO$OFT APOCALYPSE IS ON!!!
32 bit redstone computer with 64*64 pixel 16 color gpu:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/redstone-discussion-and/2116999-computer-command-block-computer-now-running-with
(giant banner removed out of modesty).