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Im sure that many are aware of this by now but i wasnt until a week ago when i tried out a few different seeds that i had used in the past and got completely different world generations. unlike the thread i made last year where i realized i was putting an extra space in after copying the seed by mistake, this new generation makes old seeds useless unless you generate the world first and then update.
I tried this with the world i have been working on since 1.14 came out and started it from scratch in single player vanilla in 1.14, 1.15, 1.16, and 1.17
everytime, the spawn is the same with a plains village spawning about 16 chunks away. everything around and underground is the same as well with very minor changes, such as the village layout may be different. all the other features were just added to the seed but didn't replace any of the mineshafts or spawners, or ocean monuments, other biomes, etc
with 1.18 the village is about 20 chunks away but that might just be coincidence because it is a costal village now on a tiny little plains thing but the spawn area is now a snow biome with a frozen ocean and icebergs and polar bears. none of the underground features, such as a huge mineshaft spanning a 12 square chunk area, is there. the whole world might as well be a new seed.
just something to keep in mind if you are gonna play a seed that you get from this forum or elsewhere online. you need to start it from its original version and update. whereas you may not have always had to do that in the past.
i have not seen a mineshaft since 1.18 came out with the bedrock version. is there an easy way to find a mineshaft now?
According to ChunkBase the locations of mineshafts didn't change in 1.18, and not since 1.14 for Bedrock and 1.13 for Java, but I don't believe that is true; either that, or they are at different elevations and/or the new larger caves prevent them from generating:
Interestingly, it seems like Bedrock still uses the generation from older versions of Java (1.7-1.12); they are much less common close to 0,0 with only two within a 1024x1024 block area in the random seed it gave me, while elsewhere they appear to have the same frequency as in Java since 1.7, averaging about 16 per 1024x1024 area.
However, their "ravine finder" shows that ravines became significantly rarer in 1.18, at least in Java (like what? a "cave update" making underground features rarer, especially given that there is now 2x the volume for them to generate in? Just like how 1.7 made mineshafts, dungeons, and especially large/dense cave systems much rarer. Not only that, Bedrock still exclusively has "mega ravines", which are much larger than normal):
thank you. i didn't see your reply until now. i used a known seed from bedrock and it shows a mineshaft i have found. now i am trying to find a mineshaft in that same seed in java. interesting. i see there are a lot more mineshafts in java than bedrock.
Im sure that many are aware of this by now but i wasnt until a week ago when i tried out a few different seeds that i had used in the past and got completely different world generations. unlike the thread i made last year where i realized i was putting an extra space in after copying the seed by mistake, this new generation makes old seeds useless unless you generate the world first and then update.
I tried this with the world i have been working on since 1.14 came out and started it from scratch in single player vanilla in 1.14, 1.15, 1.16, and 1.17
everytime, the spawn is the same with a plains village spawning about 16 chunks away. everything around and underground is the same as well with very minor changes, such as the village layout may be different. all the other features were just added to the seed but didn't replace any of the mineshafts or spawners, or ocean monuments, other biomes, etc
with 1.18 the village is about 20 chunks away but that might just be coincidence because it is a costal village now on a tiny little plains thing but the spawn area is now a snow biome with a frozen ocean and icebergs and polar bears. none of the underground features, such as a huge mineshaft spanning a 12 square chunk area, is there. the whole world might as well be a new seed.
just something to keep in mind if you are gonna play a seed that you get from this forum or elsewhere online. you need to start it from its original version and update. whereas you may not have always had to do that in the past.
happy new year everybody
i have not seen a mineshaft since 1.18 came out with the bedrock version. is there an easy way to find a mineshaft now?
According to ChunkBase the locations of mineshafts didn't change in 1.18, and not since 1.14 for Bedrock and 1.13 for Java, but I don't believe that is true; either that, or they are at different elevations and/or the new larger caves prevent them from generating:
https://www.chunkbase.com/apps/mineshaft-finder
Interestingly, it seems like Bedrock still uses the generation from older versions of Java (1.7-1.12); they are much less common close to 0,0 with only two within a 1024x1024 block area in the random seed it gave me, while elsewhere they appear to have the same frequency as in Java since 1.7, averaging about 16 per 1024x1024 area.
However, their "ravine finder" shows that ravines became significantly rarer in 1.18, at least in Java (like what? a "cave update" making underground features rarer, especially given that there is now 2x the volume for them to generate in? Just like how 1.7 made mineshafts, dungeons, and especially large/dense cave systems much rarer. Not only that, Bedrock still exclusively has "mega ravines", which are much larger than normal):
https://www.chunkbase.com/apps/ravine-finder
TheMasterCaver's First World - possibly the most caved-out world in Minecraft history - includes world download.
TheMasterCaver's World - my own version of Minecraft largely based on my views of how the game should have evolved since 1.6.4.
Why do I still play in 1.6.4?
thank you. i didn't see your reply until now. i used a known seed from bedrock and it shows a mineshaft i have found. now i am trying to find a mineshaft in that same seed in java. interesting. i see there are a lot more mineshafts in java than bedrock.