I'm very disappointed with the blackstone texture. It's not black at all. And darkslate or whatever you're calling it is going to be even lamer.
Here's an idea: scrap the current darkslate textures. Create new Blackstone textures that are actually properly black like coal blocks, then assign the old Blackstone textures to darkslate.
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Imo it's fine. But i prefer to play minecraft with 0 brightness.
That's pretty much Black if ya ask me.
Deepslate doesn't even need to be super black. It's also fine as is.
But if someone doesn't like the textures you can make your own textures and make them darker. Problem solved.
And moody (0 brightness) is how I play the game too.
EDIT: Here are blocks of (in alphabetical order) Black Cement, Blackstone, Black Wool, Coal, and Obsidian. Notice which one is the lightest in color: https://imgur.com/Kf58LfO
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So you mean the blackstone brick then? Couse my image is the same as the one from your 2nd comparison.
(and yes the blackstone variants are from the same colour palette, i get that).
Well to me it is dark enough to bear the name blackstone. Concrete, obsidian and coalblock are darker, yes.
But these are the first black "stone" variants.
My previous statement about me playing on moody doesn't realy matter i guess, since you compare them in overworld daylight as building materials.
I think you are very concerned about the building blocks pallette in the dark niche.
And that's a good thing, becouse whe don't have so much dark bulding materials.
You are the first person i witness to criticze the blackstone (+variants). My impression is that these where overall suggested and since release apriciated.
But that's only my impression. I haven't researched this topic, just the nether update in general since i was very hiped up.
With that beeing said, i'd like to point out that FINTonza's suggestion about creating your own little texturepack is a very good suggestion. I don't know the exact ammount of blackstone variants and i am not a pixel artist, but this shouldn't be as hard as a glass-texturepack, since you don't have to worry about anything else then blackstone.
You could also export blackstone variants from existing texturepacks wich you like (pure bd for example) and only add those as a simple texturepack.
I'm not suggesting texture-piracy btw, just some private graphical workarounds.
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My projects:
-are abandoned for now. I might pick 'em up in the future.
For now i'm working on a private modpack that suit's my own playstyle.
I am gonna stay in modded 1.12.2 untill my potato dies. No mercy! :Q
I'm very disappointed with the blackstone texture. It's not black at all. And darkslate or whatever you're calling it is going to be even lamer.
Here's an idea: scrap the current darkslate textures. Create new Blackstone textures that are actually properly black like coal blocks, then assign the old Blackstone textures to darkslate.
You can use a texture pack for this, I do agree the standard textures need to be adjusted
but let's be real, this isn't something that cannot be fixed by a simple addon.
I'm glad you like blackstone though, or at least not advocating for its removal.
You can't exactly make half slabs, stairs or bricks out of coal, also blackstone is not flammable and is blast resistant against Ghast fireballs,
making it a great way to make a black fortress in the Nether, and it adds a decent alternative to cobblestone for crafting furnaces in the Nether.
So you mean the blackstone brick then? Couse my image is the same as the one from your 2nd comparison.
(and yes the blackstone variants are from the same colour palette, i get that).
Well to me it is dark enough to bear the name blackstone.
On my good monitor, they don't look anywhere near black. The only place where they're acceptably dark is on my 15-pound fullscreen monitor from The Before Times, which cannot produce correct colors.
I'm glad you like blackstone though, or at least not advocating for its removal.
You can't exactly make half slabs, stairs or bricks out of coal, also blackstone is not flammable and is blast resistant against Ghast fireballs
As someone who has spent the past DECADE waiting for obsidian stairs and slabs, I'm just happy that there's finally a vaguely blackish material that I can make stairs and slabs out of. I experimented with Dark Oak for a while, and VERY briefly with Nether Bricks, but nothing was quite right.
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On my good monitor, they don't look anywhere near black. The only place where they're acceptably dark is on my 15-pound fullscreen monitor from The Before Times, which cannot produce correct colors.
As someone who has spent the past DECADE waiting for obsidian stairs and slabs, I'm just happy that there's finally a vaguely blackish material that I can make stairs and slabs out of. I experimented with Dark Oak for a while, and VERY briefly with Nether Bricks, but nothing was quite right.
They look dark gray if I'm not mistaken, so their default texture is incorrect, unless I'm suffering from a form of color blindness or if my mind is playing tricks on me.
I agree with this statement though, it wasn't enough that we had quartz stairs and slabs as those are white.
Certain builds do look a lot better with black slabs, at least in our own opinions anyway. Not everyone will like our builds as much as we do.
And half slabs and stair blocks are used for things like tiled rooftops, pseudo chairs, perhaps even a statue or monument.
An Obsidian staircase would be interesting to see for the purposes of Creeper and TNT immunity, and I do support your suggestion in a different thread, although it is not black, and this topic is about blackstone having an incorrect default texture set because of the colors looking odd.
They look dark gray if I'm not mistaken, so their default texture is incorrect, unless I'm suffering from a form of color blindness or if my mind is playing tricks on me.
It's the latter. Blackstone is actually as dark as coal is, but because of the higher contrast in the blackstone texture your brain automatically and seamlessly blends it together to look lighter than it really is. Most everything that you see as color is a simulated approximation moreorless representing the brain's opinion of how the thing should look.
I'm very disappointed with the blackstone texture. It's not black at all. And darkslate or whatever you're calling it is going to be even lamer.
Here's an idea: scrap the current darkslate textures. Create new Blackstone textures that are actually properly black like coal blocks, then assign the old Blackstone textures to darkslate.
I honestly don't mind the blackstone textures at all. In my opinion, I think that they are pretty nice and go along well with spruce wood. I actually built my base on one of my friend's Minecraft realm out of blackstone bricks and spruce wood. (I forgot to take a picture of it before the realm shut down or I would have shown you. Also, dark slate (or deep slate) is a good choice for a texture that will replace cobblestone as the major block in caves below y=0. It is not too different from cobblestone, and not too similar to it too. That's just my opinion. But hey, that's just a game theory. A gAmE tHe- no I am not going to say that lol.
I honestly don't mind the blackstone textures at all. In my opinion, I think that they are pretty nice and go along well with spruce wood. I actually built my base on one of my friend's Minecraft realm out of blackstone bricks and spruce wood. (I forgot to take a picture of it before the realm shut down or I would have shown you. Also, dark slate (or deep slate) is a good choice for a texture that will replace cobblestone as the major block in caves below y=0. It is not too different from cobblestone, and not too similar to it too. That's just my opinion. But hey, that's just a game theory. A gAmE tHe- no I am not going to say that lol.
Something worth noting is not everyone has a high end monitor and monitors display colors differently
color errors happen, some people's monitors are not well calibrated etc,
and it helps to have the full RGB setting on.
IPS panels are generally better than TN panels, but bad IPS panels do exist, and if it has backlight bleed (common problem with older LCD types) it will not be good at generating proper black at all.
LED backlighting is always preferred, regardless of whether your display supports HDR or not.
Something worth noting is not everyone has a high end monitor and monitors display colors differently
color errors happen, some people's monitors are not well calibrated etc,
and it helps to have the full RGB setting on.
IPS panels are generally better than TN panels, but bad IPS panels do exist, and if it has backlight bleed (common problem with older LCD types) it will not be good at generating proper black at all.
LED backlighting is always preferred, regardless of whether your display supports HDR or not.
I'll add that while one is entitled to expect that a block called "blackstone" should be at least vaguely black, I'm not sure why you were expecting deepslate to be black?
Personally, I think deepslate and its variants look great. I agree with the person who said above that it's likely to displace stone brick in building.
I'll add that while one is entitled to expect that a block called "blackstone" should be at least vaguely black, I'm not sure why you were expecting deepslate to be black?
Personally, I think deepslate and its variants look great. I agree with the person who said above that it's likely to displace stone brick in building.
That is because deepslate variants have a texture that makes them actually look like bricks on medieval buildings
the default textures of Minecraft could use an upgrade in general imo.
I've recently been using a texture pack called Clear Craft, I prefer this one over the original textures now,
it made me realize just how outdated the default games textures were and that these newer textures do work for the game.
Something worth noting is not everyone has a high end monitor and monitors display colors differently
Of interest, the brightness slider was initially added by Optifine to compensate for properly calibrated monitors being too dark, as was the case for myself; even on Bright a dark cave appeared pitch-black (IIRC, some lighter textures, like sandstone were barely visible, but not stone), until I got a new computer (and monitor), which is when I modded the game to make a light level of 0 totally black regardless of the brightness setting (unlike vanilla TMCW also defaults to "bright"):
On a good calibrated monitor which can show near-black colors the Minecraft night scenes are almost fully black (light level 4). On the other hand, not so good monitors which have problems with near black colors show the night scenes very good.
The Brightness setting fixes the Minecraft light levels for properly calibrated monitors. Brightness 0% corresponds to default Minecraft light levels. Brightness 100% uses linear light levels, so the steps between all light levels are equal.
Note that in either case a light level of 15 (full daylight) is not affected, so a screenshot taken during full daylight won't show any difference (aside from differences due to the monitor and/or Windows/GPU driver settings; for my current system I used Window's built-in display calibration tool to lower the gamma until it is shown to be correct, with the default making everything, not just Minecraft, obnoxiously washed-out, even at reduced monitor brightness. Complete darkness in Minecraft is still too bright, and Moody is not an option as I think it looks hideous and I have to place like 2-3 times the torches, which I already used by the thousand per day).
If it's too dark, it's hard to see or distinguish between blocks even on high brightness.
I support darkening the texture but it needs to be somehow distinguishable (e.g. by texture details) from other dark blocks.
The problem is cracked blackstone bricks don't make sense, because cracks on a black surface would be very hard to distinguish unless there were large enough gaps in between the fault lines. So it makes me wonder why Mojang bothered with that variant.
I'd rather have the darker texture and normal blackstone bricks, instead of the improper dark grayish color they have now.
The reason why cracks are noticed visually on solid objects is because of the color and texture difference, or the shadows (or light) from in between.
If cracks had the exact same colour as the object they existed on, they would be invisible. Cracks can be masked by something as simple as a paint-job in real life.
The problem is cracked blackstone bricks don't make sense, because cracks on a black surface would be very hard to distinguish unless there were large enough gaps in between the fault lines. So it makes me wonder why Mojang bothered with that variant.
I'd rather have the darker texture and normal blackstone bricks, instead of the improper dark grayish color they have now.
The reason why cracks are noticed visually on solid objects is because of the color and texture difference, or the shadows (or light) from in between.
If cracks had the exact same colour as the object they existed on, they would be invisible. Cracks can be masked by something as simple as a paint-job in real life.
Ya, that’s why I don’t use cracked blackstone like ever. They should have found a better way to add the cracks in blackstone.
Ya, that’s why I don’t use cracked blackstone like ever. They should have found a better way to add the cracks in blackstone.
I mean, having the grayish texture for bricks and cracked bricks is going to exist for deepslate
I would support the removal of cracked bricks for the blackstone variant and instead just changing the blackstone and sub-variety color to look more black, with all existing blackstone cracked bricks in the game to be converted into regular blackstone bricks, since cracks on black blocks would be nearly invisible anyway.
Deepslate is about to fill the role of blackstone as the dark gray brick block alternative.
A change like this makes the most sense, I agree with you on this one 100%.
I'll add that while one is entitled to expect that a block called "blackstone" should be at least vaguely black, I'm not sure why you were expecting deepslate to be black?
I don't expect deepslate to be black, which is why I suggested giving it Blackstone's current not-very-black textures
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I'm very disappointed with the blackstone texture. It's not black at all. And darkslate or whatever you're calling it is going to be even lamer.
Here's an idea: scrap the current darkslate textures. Create new Blackstone textures that are actually properly black like coal blocks, then assign the old Blackstone textures to darkslate.
416 stone
296 stone slab (150 blocks)
149 stone stairs (228 blocks)
794 total stone
1082 blackstone
174 blackstone slab (87 blocks)
52 blackstone stairs (78 blocks)
1247 total blackstone
(not counting drawbridges and portcullises)
Do you mean this blackstone?
Imo it's fine. But i prefer to play minecraft with 0 brightness.
My projects:
-are abandoned for now. I might pick 'em up in the future.
For now i'm working on a private modpack that suit's my own playstyle.
I am gonna stay in modded 1.12.2 untill my potato dies. No mercy! :Q
That's pretty much Black if ya ask me.
Deepslate doesn't even need to be super black. It's also fine as is.
But if someone doesn't like the textures you can make your own textures and make them darker. Problem solved.
And moody (0 brightness) is how I play the game too.
No, I mean THIS blackstone, with a coal block for comparison: https://imgur.com/kI1IOP0
EDIT: Here are blocks of (in alphabetical order) Black Cement, Blackstone, Black Wool, Coal, and Obsidian. Notice which one is the lightest in color: https://imgur.com/Kf58LfO
416 stone
296 stone slab (150 blocks)
149 stone stairs (228 blocks)
794 total stone
1082 blackstone
174 blackstone slab (87 blocks)
52 blackstone stairs (78 blocks)
1247 total blackstone
(not counting drawbridges and portcullises)
So you mean the blackstone brick then? Couse my image is the same as the one from your 2nd comparison.
(and yes the blackstone variants are from the same colour palette, i get that).
Well to me it is dark enough to bear the name blackstone. Concrete, obsidian and coalblock are darker, yes.
But these are the first black "stone" variants.
My previous statement about me playing on moody doesn't realy matter i guess, since you compare them in overworld daylight as building materials.
I think you are very concerned about the building blocks pallette in the dark niche.
And that's a good thing, becouse whe don't have so much dark bulding materials.
You are the first person i witness to criticze the blackstone (+variants). My impression is that these where overall suggested and since release apriciated.
But that's only my impression. I haven't researched this topic, just the nether update in general since i was very hiped up.
With that beeing said, i'd like to point out that FINTonza's suggestion about creating your own little texturepack is a very good suggestion. I don't know the exact ammount of blackstone variants and i am not a pixel artist, but this shouldn't be as hard as a glass-texturepack, since you don't have to worry about anything else then blackstone.
You could also export blackstone variants from existing texturepacks wich you like (pure bd for example) and only add those as a simple texturepack.
I'm not suggesting texture-piracy btw, just some private graphical workarounds.
My projects:
-are abandoned for now. I might pick 'em up in the future.
For now i'm working on a private modpack that suit's my own playstyle.
I am gonna stay in modded 1.12.2 untill my potato dies. No mercy! :Q
You can use a texture pack for this, I do agree the standard textures need to be adjusted
but let's be real, this isn't something that cannot be fixed by a simple addon.
I'm glad you like blackstone though, or at least not advocating for its removal.
You can't exactly make half slabs, stairs or bricks out of coal, also blackstone is not flammable and is blast resistant against Ghast fireballs,
making it a great way to make a black fortress in the Nether, and it adds a decent alternative to cobblestone for crafting furnaces in the Nether.
It's not a useless block, far from it.
On my good monitor, they don't look anywhere near black. The only place where they're acceptably dark is on my 15-pound fullscreen monitor from The Before Times, which cannot produce correct colors.
As someone who has spent the past DECADE waiting for obsidian stairs and slabs, I'm just happy that there's finally a vaguely blackish material that I can make stairs and slabs out of. I experimented with Dark Oak for a while, and VERY briefly with Nether Bricks, but nothing was quite right.
416 stone
296 stone slab (150 blocks)
149 stone stairs (228 blocks)
794 total stone
1082 blackstone
174 blackstone slab (87 blocks)
52 blackstone stairs (78 blocks)
1247 total blackstone
(not counting drawbridges and portcullises)
They look dark gray if I'm not mistaken, so their default texture is incorrect, unless I'm suffering from a form of color blindness or if my mind is playing tricks on me.
I agree with this statement though, it wasn't enough that we had quartz stairs and slabs as those are white.
Certain builds do look a lot better with black slabs, at least in our own opinions anyway. Not everyone will like our builds as much as we do.
And half slabs and stair blocks are used for things like tiled rooftops, pseudo chairs, perhaps even a statue or monument.
An Obsidian staircase would be interesting to see for the purposes of Creeper and TNT immunity, and I do support your suggestion in a different thread, although it is not black, and this topic is about blackstone having an incorrect default texture set because of the colors looking odd.
It's the latter. Blackstone is actually as dark as coal is, but because of the higher contrast in the blackstone texture your brain automatically and seamlessly blends it together to look lighter than it really is. Most everything that you see as color is a simulated approximation moreorless representing the brain's opinion of how the thing should look.
I honestly don't mind the blackstone textures at all. In my opinion, I think that they are pretty nice and go along well with spruce wood. I actually built my base on one of my friend's Minecraft realm out of blackstone bricks and spruce wood. (I forgot to take a picture of it before the realm shut down or I would have shown you. Also, dark slate (or deep slate) is a good choice for a texture that will replace cobblestone as the major block in caves below y=0. It is not too different from cobblestone, and not too similar to it too. That's just my opinion. But hey, that's just a game theory. A gAmE tHe- no I am not going to say that lol.
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Something worth noting is not everyone has a high end monitor and monitors display colors differently
color errors happen, some people's monitors are not well calibrated etc,
and it helps to have the full RGB setting on.
IPS panels are generally better than TN panels, but bad IPS panels do exist, and if it has backlight bleed (common problem with older LCD types) it will not be good at generating proper black at all.
LED backlighting is always preferred, regardless of whether your display supports HDR or not.
https://www.benq.eu/en-uk/knowledge-center/knowledge/full-rgb-vs-limited-rgb-is-there-a-difference.html
Yup, totally agree with you.
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I'll add that while one is entitled to expect that a block called "blackstone" should be at least vaguely black, I'm not sure why you were expecting deepslate to be black?
Personally, I think deepslate and its variants look great. I agree with the person who said above that it's likely to displace stone brick in building.
That is because deepslate variants have a texture that makes them actually look like bricks on medieval buildings
the default textures of Minecraft could use an upgrade in general imo.
I've recently been using a texture pack called Clear Craft, I prefer this one over the original textures now,
it made me realize just how outdated the default games textures were and that these newer textures do work for the game.
If it's too dark, it's hard to see or distinguish between blocks even on high brightness.
I support darkening the texture but it needs to be somehow distinguishable (e.g. by texture details) from other dark blocks.
Of interest, the brightness slider was initially added by Optifine to compensate for properly calibrated monitors being too dark, as was the case for myself; even on Bright a dark cave appeared pitch-black (IIRC, some lighter textures, like sandstone were barely visible, but not stone), until I got a new computer (and monitor), which is when I modded the game to make a light level of 0 totally black regardless of the brightness setting (unlike vanilla TMCW also defaults to "bright"):
Note that in either case a light level of 15 (full daylight) is not affected, so a screenshot taken during full daylight won't show any difference (aside from differences due to the monitor and/or Windows/GPU driver settings; for my current system I used Window's built-in display calibration tool to lower the gamma until it is shown to be correct, with the default making everything, not just Minecraft, obnoxiously washed-out, even at reduced monitor brightness. Complete darkness in Minecraft is still too bright, and Moody is not an option as I think it looks hideous and I have to place like 2-3 times the torches, which I already used by the thousand per day).
TheMasterCaver's First World - possibly the most caved-out world in Minecraft history - includes world download.
TheMasterCaver's World - my own version of Minecraft largely based on my views of how the game should have evolved since 1.6.4.
Why do I still play in 1.6.4?
The problem is cracked blackstone bricks don't make sense, because cracks on a black surface would be very hard to distinguish unless there were large enough gaps in between the fault lines. So it makes me wonder why Mojang bothered with that variant.
I'd rather have the darker texture and normal blackstone bricks, instead of the improper dark grayish color they have now.
The reason why cracks are noticed visually on solid objects is because of the color and texture difference, or the shadows (or light) from in between.
If cracks had the exact same colour as the object they existed on, they would be invisible. Cracks can be masked by something as simple as a paint-job in real life.
Ya, that’s why I don’t use cracked blackstone like ever. They should have found a better way to add the cracks in blackstone.
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I mean, having the grayish texture for bricks and cracked bricks is going to exist for deepslate
I would support the removal of cracked bricks for the blackstone variant and instead just changing the blackstone and sub-variety color to look more black, with all existing blackstone cracked bricks in the game to be converted into regular blackstone bricks, since cracks on black blocks would be nearly invisible anyway.
Deepslate is about to fill the role of blackstone as the dark gray brick block alternative.
A change like this makes the most sense, I agree with you on this one 100%.
https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Deepslate_Bricks
I don't expect deepslate to be black, which is why I suggested giving it Blackstone's current not-very-black textures
416 stone
296 stone slab (150 blocks)
149 stone stairs (228 blocks)
794 total stone
1082 blackstone
174 blackstone slab (87 blocks)
52 blackstone stairs (78 blocks)
1247 total blackstone
(not counting drawbridges and portcullises)