So, why did Mojang even fix this a second time after they had already fixed it anyway? Why not fix some of the game-breaking problems that 1.9 introduced?
• Creepers can instantly kill players in the best armour possible.
• Bows with power 5 can instantly kill players in iron armour, or do 9.2 hearts to diamond armour. 3 shots can kill the best armour possible.
• Eating steak can out-heal poison effects.
• 2 players with stone/iron/diamond axes can kill someone with a diamond sword and diamond armour.
• A shield made from 6 wooden planks and 1 iron ingot is stronger then armour made from 24 diamonds.
But they had to nerf golden apples by making them uncraftable, even though they were nerfed to about 1/6th of their original power already. (1.8: 96 hearts regen and 2 hearts absorption (98) VS 1.9: 8 hearts regen and 8 hearts absorption (16))
I can tell you, removing armour penetration mechanics will fix 2 or even 3 of those game-breaking problems. More then removing a crafting recipe ever could.
I feel like a newbie for asking, but what's a Notch Apple?
The enchanted version of the Golden Apple that used to be created by surrounding a normal apple with gold blocks than ingots. It would give you insane health generation alongside other affects like resistance, practically making you invincible for intensive purposes.
It's called a Notch apple because that's the original infamous Golden Apple recipe Notch put into the game.
The enchanted version of the Golden Apple that used to be created by surrounding a normal apple with gold blocks than ingots. It would give you insane health generation alongside other affects like resistance, practically making you invincible for intensive purposes.
It's called a Notch apple because that's the original infamous Golden Apple recipe Notch put into the game.
Thanks! To OP, these are ridiculously overpowered. Like, gamebreaking overpowered. Heck, I remember one guy in my Roleplay Realm managed to get one, and challenged me to a duel. He ate the "Notch Apple" and I was dead in no time flat. I'm sure "Notch Apples" are even more disastrous when fighting monsters.
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To those who think that this will "destroy" pvp servers, they can just program a plugin that allows crafting of notch apples. Also, pvp servers can change the armor protection by making their own damage systems, it is possible because I have done it before.
This is a really bad update. I like things that are sustainable, not being able to craft them is certainly not sustainable for people who don't mod or cheat.. I hope they change it back or at least give a new recipe for them. Obviously this fix probably wouldn't change PVP for most people because public servers that you would PVP on will still probably have plugins with shops where you can buy them, or kits that give them. This change will mostly just effect single player worlds and vanilla servers.
Thanks! To OP, these are ridiculously overpowered. Like, gamebreaking overpowered. Heck, I remember one guy in my Roleplay Realm managed to get one, and challenged me to a duel. He ate the "Notch Apple" and I was dead in no time flat. I'm sure "Notch Apples" are even more disastrous when fighting monsters.
Exactly. Once when I battled a friend we were told we could choose a weapon of choice. I chose the notch apple and was given a wooden sword, while fought by him with a diamond sword/leather armor, and still won three times over. Because he respawned and hilariously kept at me with no succcess. May I mention his sword had sharpness V and fire aspect II AND knockback? Yeah, this really happened. XD
Point being, they are like exhaustible invincibility; whoever has the most wins no matter what.
This is a really bad update. I like things that are sustainable, not being able to craft them is certainly not sustainable for people who don't mod or cheat.. I hope they change it back or at least give a new recipe for them. Obviously this fix probably wouldn't change PVP for most people because public servers that you would PVP on will still probably have plugins with shops where you can buy them, or kits that give them. This change will mostly just effect single player worlds and vanilla servers.
Well, the problem with the sustainability which golden apples had was they were too OP. If you make a successful farm, they can be horded and eaten en masse so the people with the farms were OP. I get they are supposed to be OP, but they were beyond OP; they were broken. Now they are obtainable for everyone at a modest rate, encourage exploration, more fair, etc.
You don't need a gamerule. On a faction server, get a recipe plugin for them. On a vanilla or realms server, have someone write a vanilla command block mod. Those work for recipes too.
This thread appears to be getting off-topic. This thread is for discussing the removal of crafting for the "notch" apples, it is not a discussion about ways to obtain gold, ease of going to the nether, or anything else.
(Why is the title called "Yo put notch apples back" We don't live in the 90's anymore and also. Could you please not put "Minecraft is ruined" that really ticks me off) To be honest the "notch" apple you speak of is kinda waste of resource. Because what for? you only get a temporary buff that only last a quick time.
Also the "notch" apple can be found in dunguens (Atleast that's what it said) So that's one reason players venture the world for dunguens.
Finding notch apples in dungeons might be okay, but may bring about balance issues in multiplayer when older players, who have covered more ground, have a larger stash of gapples.
I think it was better to keep the notch apple's crafting recipe. That's all I, and many others, use gold for in multiplayer. They should solve the grinder problem instead of curbing the recipe.
Sometimes I think people pay more immediate attention to joke, troll, vague, and wrong section threads here instead of the actual proper suggestions.
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They are simply making an update which caters to a small number of players meanwhile giving the finger to the community at large. I am not happy with any of the changes and strongly dislike the direction Minecraft is headed! Notch come back and save us from Micro$oft!!!!! Please!!!!!!!
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this kinda also kills the purpose of the ocean mouments as they have 8 gold blocks as the reward removing the notch apple recipe was a bad idea yes it adds a more purpose for dungeons but minecraft keeps losing features it lost the amazing terrian generation after 1.8 beta the new terrian is cool and all but i miss the old one alot creepers are no longer something to be scared off anymore as they used to be more poweful and common. i agree with this we need the recipie back even if its changed craftable notch apples was a great thing and il miss that
this kinda also kills the purpose of the ocean mouments as they have 8 gold blocks as the reward removing the notch apple recipe was a bad idea yes it adds a more purpose for dungeons but minecraft keeps losing features it lost the amazing terrian generation after 1.8 beta the new terrian is cool and all but i miss the old one alot creepers are no longer something to be scared off anymore as they used to be more poweful and common. i agree with this we need the recipie back even if its changed craftable notch apples was a great thing and il miss that
Creepers currently one-hit you in diamond armour.
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So, why did Mojang even fix this a second time after they had already fixed it anyway? Why not fix some of the game-breaking problems that 1.9 introduced?
• Creepers can instantly kill players in the best armour possible.
• Bows with power 5 can instantly kill players in iron armour, or do 9.2 hearts to diamond armour. 3 shots can kill the best armour possible.
• Eating steak can out-heal poison effects.
• 2 players with stone/iron/diamond axes can kill someone with a diamond sword and diamond armour.
• A shield made from 6 wooden planks and 1 iron ingot is stronger then armour made from 24 diamonds.
But they had to nerf golden apples by making them uncraftable, even though they were nerfed to about 1/6th of their original power already. (1.8: 96 hearts regen and 2 hearts absorption (98) VS 1.9: 8 hearts regen and 8 hearts absorption (16))
I can tell you, removing armour penetration mechanics will fix 2 or even 3 of those game-breaking problems. More then removing a crafting recipe ever could.
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I feel like a newbie for asking, but what's a Notch Apple?
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Dated terminology for a golden apple which looks enchanted and is better at everything but WAY harder to get.
The enchanted version of the Golden Apple that used to be created by surrounding a normal apple with gold blocks than ingots. It would give you insane health generation alongside other affects like resistance, practically making you invincible for intensive purposes.
It's called a Notch apple because that's the original infamous Golden Apple recipe Notch put into the game.
Thanks! To OP, these are ridiculously overpowered. Like, gamebreaking overpowered. Heck, I remember one guy in my Roleplay Realm managed to get one, and challenged me to a duel. He ate the "Notch Apple" and I was dead in no time flat. I'm sure "Notch Apples" are even more disastrous when fighting monsters.
“Cats are connoisseurs of comfort.”
― James Herriot, James Herriot's Cat Stories
To those who think that this will "destroy" pvp servers, they can just program a plugin that allows crafting of notch apples. Also, pvp servers can change the armor protection by making their own damage systems, it is possible because I have done it before.
This is a really bad update. I like things that are sustainable, not being able to craft them is certainly not sustainable for people who don't mod or cheat.. I hope they change it back or at least give a new recipe for them. Obviously this fix probably wouldn't change PVP for most people because public servers that you would PVP on will still probably have plugins with shops where you can buy them, or kits that give them. This change will mostly just effect single player worlds and vanilla servers.
Actually the real reason it's known as a Notch Apple is because back when Notch used to play Minecraft on servers if you killed him he dropped one.
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I tried it with terrible results. I gave my wife my glasses for a second, a creeper showed up and now my wife is pregnant.
Stupid 3D..
Exactly. Once when I battled a friend we were told we could choose a weapon of choice. I chose the notch apple and was given a wooden sword, while fought by him with a diamond sword/leather armor, and still won three times over. Because he respawned and hilariously kept at me with no succcess. May I mention his sword had sharpness V and fire aspect II AND knockback? Yeah, this really happened. XD
Point being, they are like exhaustible invincibility; whoever has the most wins no matter what.
Well, the problem with the sustainability which golden apples had was they were too OP. If you make a successful farm, they can be horded and eaten en masse so the people with the farms were OP. I get they are supposed to be OP, but they were beyond OP; they were broken. Now they are obtainable for everyone at a modest rate, encourage exploration, more fair, etc.
Does Notch still play servers, and is this still a thing?
You don't need a gamerule. On a faction server, get a recipe plugin for them. On a vanilla or realms server, have someone write a vanilla command block mod. Those work for recipes too.
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ModeratorThis thread appears to be getting off-topic. This thread is for discussing the removal of crafting for the "notch" apples, it is not a discussion about ways to obtain gold, ease of going to the nether, or anything else.
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So I should craft my notch apples before they're removed in 1.9 if I have the materials?
No, they honestly aren't worth it. Potions are cheaper.
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(Why is the title called "Yo put notch apples back" We don't live in the 90's anymore and also. Could you please not put "Minecraft is ruined" that really ticks me off) To be honest the "notch" apple you speak of is kinda waste of resource. Because what for? you only get a temporary buff that only last a quick time.
Also the "notch" apple can be found in dunguens (Atleast that's what it said) So that's one reason players venture the world for dunguens.
Gold just became about 50% more useless than before.
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Curse PremiumFinding notch apples in dungeons might be okay, but may bring about balance issues in multiplayer when older players, who have covered more ground, have a larger stash of gapples.
I think it was better to keep the notch apple's crafting recipe. That's all I, and many others, use gold for in multiplayer. They should solve the grinder problem instead of curbing the recipe.
Sometimes I think people pay more immediate attention to joke, troll, vague, and wrong section threads here instead of the actual proper suggestions.
Community: Would love this! Support!
Me: STOP IT. STOP NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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2 days later:
Me: What the... where's the thread.... oh page 10
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this kinda also kills the purpose of the ocean mouments as they have 8 gold blocks as the reward removing the notch apple recipe was a bad idea yes it adds a more purpose for dungeons but minecraft keeps losing features it lost the amazing terrian generation after 1.8 beta the new terrian is cool and all but i miss the old one alot creepers are no longer something to be scared off anymore as they used to be more poweful and common. i agree with this we need the recipie back even if its changed craftable notch apples was a great thing and il miss that
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