Heh. Well, it's ready now. It's on Imgur, it's on Reddit, it's on Planet Minecraft, it's on Curse, it will be on Harmonious Buttons soon, and you can also find the Minecraft Forum topic on my signature.
Nah, you're not bad. I'm just not sure you have enough perspective concerning 1.9's long development time. You have shown your weakness!
But I'm not sure it's worth discussing in-depth either, since 1.10 definitely should not be another long update after how long the last two were. Fortunately, Mojang seems well-aware of that.
OK my kid and I have played with Megacraft. The animations are over the top, the witches are annoying, so yeah it's cool
Neither of us seem to have played Megaman so we've not got much to compare it to but it certainly is a neat setup you've done.
Oh the wither looks quite awesome there!!!
I found another thing about 1.9 that I can't stand:
It rains much more often. While it is raining, mobs like skeletons and zombies spawn even though it is midday. They also spawn in large numbers. Now, 2 zombies can kill you with ease if your reflexes aren't fast enough, you have a slow internet connection (multiplayer), or you have low FPS. How does anyone find this fun?
That would be a placebo effect caused by your anti-1.9 bias. Weather was not changed in anyway at all in 1.9.
Also hostile mobs don't spawn in rain, they spawn during thunderstorms because of the light level, which are much rarer than rain.
I found another thing about 1.9 that I can't stand:
It rains much more often. While it is raining, mobs like skeletons and zombies spawn even though it is midday. They also spawn in large numbers. Now, 2 zombies can kill you with ease if your reflexes aren't fast enough, you have a slow internet connection (multiplayer), or you have low FPS. How does anyone find this fun?
You can't find it fun because you don't want to say you enjoy an update that changes combat, you're just looking for ways that 1.9 is bad. And every time you leave a reason, they stretch further and further beyond fact.
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Mining and crafting since 1.2.5, baby. I'm such a pro that---Okay who put my noob test results in my signature?!
All of those haters are just people with no skill and they think that the meaning of a fun thing in Minecraft (PVP) is just hammering their mouse/ D-Pad to make it just a contest of the fastest clicker.
All of those haters are just people with no skill and they think that the meaning of a fun thing in Minecraft (PVP) is just hammering their mouse/ D-Pad to make it just a contest of the fastest clicker.
100% Agree with you! They just want it easier which will actually harm the community more. They need to learn that it's change and it was for the better. Thank you, friend
OK my kid and I have played with Megacraft. The animations are over the top, the witches are annoying, so yeah it's cool
Neither of us seem to have played Megaman so we've not got much to compare it to but it certainly is a neat setup you've done.
Oh the wither looks quite awesome there!!!
Yeah, I suppose I am serving a niche audience with my resource pack, but I'm going to serve that audience to the best of my ability. It helps that I genuinely love what I create too.
Oh, and to keep things on-topic, another thing you're missing out on if you stubbornly insist on hating 1.9 is the awesome new Mending enchantment. I became too conservative to use diamond gear after 1.8 removed almost all diamond gear from villager trades, but after fishing up some Mending books, I march around in diamond gear all the time again. It makes Thorns worthwhile to have on a chest plate too!
What's really interesting is because of how Mending works, it nags you to remove all your armor and wade out into a sea of experience completely naked and vulnerable if you have a specific tool you want to recharge. The Elytra is also a sneaky way to compel players to happily give up defensive power. 1.9 is especially clever about game balance that way.
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Author of , Minecraft's most noteworthy Mega Man-themed resource pack!
Also the author of Tales from the Creature Keeper, a book series where humanity is long gone, but its successors, both domesticated and feral, could learn a lot from its legacy.
Yeah, I suppose I am serving a niche audience with my resource pack, but I'm going to serve that audience to the best of my ability. It helps that I genuinely love what I create too.
Oh, and to keep things on-topic, another thing you're missing out on if you stubbornly insist on hating 1.9 is the awesome new Mending enchantment. I became too conservative to use diamond gear after 1.8 removed almost all diamond gear from villager trades, but after fishing up some Mending books, I march around in diamond gear all the time again. It makes Thorns worthwhile to have on a chest plate too!
What's really interesting is because of how Mending works, it nags you to remove all your armor and wade out into a sea of experience completely naked and vulnerable if you have a specific tool you want to recharge. The Elytra is also a sneaky way to compel players to happily give up defensive power. 1.9 is especially clever about game balance that way.
Nothing wrong with serving a niche audience especially when you do it well
I've not played with the mending too much but I can certainly see the benefit. My biggest issue with experience is that usually about the time I hit level 30 I do something stupid and fall from a great height into lava..... So much of the time I need that experience so I can do some enchanting....
Game balance seems to be a good part of the combat changes and I suspect that may be why some are so heavily against it.
True. It's human nature to become unsettled with change. But having said that who doesn't want more features, more blocks, more mobs....more...well....Minecraft! You'll always get those who hate the new...love the old. For me it really depends on additions that balance the game or add more dynamic features. Then again I'm the guy who couldn't care less if there is never another skin pack released....ever!
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All of those haters are just people with no skill and they think that the meaning of a fun thing in Minecraft (PVP) is just hammering their mouse/ D-Pad to make it just a contest of the fastest clicker.
100% Agree with you! They just want it easier which will actually harm the community more. They need to learn that it's change and it was for the better. Thank you, friend
I already replied but for some reason the post got deleted so here it goes again:
In your opinion the changes were "for the better". Not everyone thinks that. Not everyone wanted these changes. They were happy with 1.8 combat, and even if they learn that it is change does not mean that they aren't going to hate it. Also, reverting the 1.9 changes will not harm the community more. Even if they just made the mobs less OP and made the cooldown easy to disable it would not create problems. Also, the 1.9 fan boys are shouting so loud so it's like only their opinions matter. What are you supposed to do if you find yourself in the Elder Guardian room in an ocean monument, get sandwiched between two skeletons, or worse, anger the pigmen? Answer those for me.
I already replied but for some reason the post got deleted so here it goes again:
In your opinion the changes were "for the better". Not everyone thinks that. Not everyone wanted these changes. They were happy with 1.8 combat, and even if they learn that it is change does not mean that they aren't going to hate it. Also, reverting the 1.9 changes will not harm the community more. Even if they just made the mobs less OP and made the cooldown easy to disable it would not create problems. Also, the 1.9 fan boys are shouting so loud so it's like only their opinions matter. What are you supposed to do if you find yourself in the Elder Guardian room in an ocean monument, get sandwiched between two skeletons, or worse, anger the pigmen? Answer those for me.
That's actually fine. You don't have to like the combat changes. The problem is you keep coming up with very bad excuses for not liking them, excuses that have been debunked over and over, yet you refuse to listen to reason and dismiss even the good parts of 1.9 out of prejudice. Then you make up stories about 1.9 fanboys shouting so loud that it's like only their opinions matter. That's probably why your posts keep getting deleted by the mods too.
Elder Guardians are intimidating at first, but if you're facing one, you either have a good diving helmet or a potion of water breathing already, so just go to town with your sword and use obstacles to break his line of laser sight on you. 1.9 will actually help you out a LOT here, given how food has gained much greater healing potency.
Being sandwiched between two skeletons can quickly become one of the safest combat scenarios in the game. Just move a hair and get them to start shooting each other, then slay the greatly weakened victor. As buffed as Skeletons were in 1.9, they remain the only mob with weakness, not strength, in numbers.
Angering pigmen happens all the time. They were actually nerfed some time back so that hitting one only angers pigmen within a certain radius, not every single pigman in the Nether, plus their anger actually wears off now if you leave them alone long enough. In 1.9, you want to handle them the same way you did in 1.8, i.e. don't engage them directly and use the terrain to your advantage. Have them follow you through choke points and around corners, pillar up 2-3 blocks and hack at them as they swarm around you, or box yourself in and pretend each one is lining up to visit your confessional. If all else fails, RUN. The Nether IS designed to be a place that relentlessly kills players, after all.
Please, for the love of Pete, actually listen to us for once.
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Also the author of Tales from the Creature Keeper, a book series where humanity is long gone, but its successors, both domesticated and feral, could learn a lot from its legacy.
I already replied but for some reason the post got deleted so here it goes again:
In your opinion the changes were "for the better". Not everyone thinks that. Not everyone wanted these changes. They were happy with 1.8 combat, and even if they learn that it is change does not mean that they aren't going to hate it. Also, reverting the 1.9 changes will not harm the community more. Even if they just made the mobs less OP and made the cooldown easy to disable it would not create problems. Also, the 1.9 fan boys are shouting so loud so it's like only their opinions matter. What are you supposed to do if you find yourself in the Elder Guardian room in an ocean monument, get sandwiched between two skeletons, or worse, anger the pigmen? Answer those for me.
The skeleton solution is so easy I think you're too busy making up ways to explain how 1.9 is bad to think them through. If you're wearing anything better than enchanted leather, then you can afford to simply back up so they both face you. Then it's a simple matter of using your shield, closing in and retreating as necessary. The way Minecraft's combat system works, most battles are hardly planned, large amounts of it lie in your ability to improvise.
It's also easy enough to get out of their point-blank range and return fire. Your issue with skeletons is that you make no effort to strategically eliminate them with, say, a bow. Realistically, if you were to try to fight the 2 skeletons rather than flee, you would already have sufficient equipment to handle them. Or you're an idiot.
Honestly, if you refuse to use a shield, then you can't say 1.9 is bad. They provided you with plenty of things to use, but you simply won't use them.
The same goes for many things in other, previous updates. You can access the guardian temple without a potion of water breathing, substituting, for example, with torches. However, it is dangerous and idiotic. The same goes for refusing to use shields in an update that has buffed mobs and combat in general to make it necessary to use a shield. The folks at Mojang designed it so that these items have an important place in the core of the update. If you won't use them, or can't use them intelligently, it's your own problem.
The skeleton solution is so easy I think you're too busy making up ways to explain how 1.9 is bad to think them through. If you're wearing anything better than enchanted leather, then you can afford to simply back up so they both face you. Then it's a simple matter of using your shield, closing in and retreating as necessary. The way Minecraft's combat system works, most battles are hardly planned, large amounts of it lie in your ability to improvise.
It's also easy enough to get out of their point-blank range and return fire. Your issue with skeletons is that you make no effort to strategically eliminate them with, say, a bow. Realistically, if you were to try to fight the 2 skeletons rather than flee, you would already have sufficient equipment to handle them. Or you're an idiot.
Honestly, if you refuse to use a shield, then you can't say 1.9 is bad. They provided you with plenty of things to use, but you simply won't use them.
The same goes for many things in other, previous updates. You can access the guardian temple without a potion of water breathing, substituting, for example, with torches. However, it is dangerous and idiotic. The same goes for refusing to use shields in an update that has buffed mobs and combat in general to make it necessary to use a shield. The folks at Mojang designed it so that these items have an important place in the core of the update. If you won't use them, or can't use them intelligently, it's your own problem.
For Zarlog: Dude, I understand you may not like my opinion but seriously, I need to agree with Elita here. "Honestly, if you refuse to use a shield, then you can't say 1.9 is bad. They provided you with plenty of things to use, but you simply won't use them." Great fact right there. And thanks to Elita, he answered the questions YOU wanted ME to answer which I couldn't. And as i'm going to say again, if you don't like the combat, that's your problem. If you don't want to even try, your problem. Revert to 1.8.x. Now I know when I said this someone (don't remember who) told me "But if we switch back, we won't get the other features of 1.9." Well, then just avoid the PvP aspect! There are many simple work arounds but many of you have to still complain.
For Elita: Great thing you wrote. I really wanted to quote it and express myself from that. Some people just make horrible excuses to hate on 1.9. Now, I'm not one sided. I'm not being rude in any form to anyone. I just think that some people needs to know there are work arounds.
For Zarlog: Dude, I understand you may not like my opinion but seriously, I need to agree with Elita here. "Honestly, if you refuse to use a shield, then you can't say 1.9 is bad. They provided you with plenty of things to use, but you simply won't use them." Great fact right there. And thanks to Elita, he answered the questions YOU wanted ME to answer which I couldn't. And as i'm going to say again, if you don't like the combat, that's your problem. If you don't want to even try, your problem. Revert to 1.8.x. Now I know when I said this someone (don't remember who) told me "But if we switch back, we won't get the other features of 1.9." Well, then just avoid the PvP aspect! There are many simple work arounds but many of you have to still complain.
For Elita: Great thing you wrote. I really wanted to quote it and express myself from that. Some people just make horrible excuses to hate on 1.9. Now, I'm not one sided. I'm not being rude in any form to anyone. I just think that some people needs to know there are work arounds.
Thanks for the support. Glad I was able to help with the question.
i know why im hating 1.9 the PVP IS ABSALUTE CHEESE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!
What kind of cheese is 1.9's PVP? Is it Cheddar because its delicious? Is it Pepper Jack because its controversial and has a zing to it? Is it Blue cheese because its definitely different?
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That's actually fine. You don't have to like the combat changes. The problem is you keep coming up with very bad excuses for not liking them, excuses that have been debunked over and over, yet you refuse to listen to reason and dismiss even the good parts of 1.9 out of prejudice. Then you make up stories about 1.9 fanboys shouting so loud that it's like only their opinions matter. That's probably why your posts keep getting deleted by the mods too.
Elder Guardians are intimidating at first, but if you're facing one, you either have a good diving helmet or a potion of water breathing already, so just go to town with your sword and use obstacles to break his line of laser sight on you. 1.9 will actually help you out a LOT here, given how food has gained much greater healing potency.
Being sandwiched between two skeletons can quickly become one of the safest combat scenarios in the game. Just move a hair and get them to start shooting each other, then slay the greatly weakened victor. As buffed as Skeletons were in 1.9, they remain the only mob with weakness, not strength, in numbers.
Angering pigmen happens all the time. They were actually nerfed some time back so that hitting one only angers pigmen within a certain radius, not every single pigman in the Nether, plus their anger actually wears off now if you leave them alone long enough. In 1.9, you want to handle them the same way you did in 1.8, i.e. don't engage them directly and use the terrain to your advantage. Have them follow you through choke points and around corners, pillar up 2-3 blocks and hack at them as they swarm around you, or box yourself in and pretend each one is lining up to visit your confessional. If all else fails, RUN. The Nether IS designed to be a place that relentlessly kills players, after all.
Please, for the love of Pete, actually listen to us for once.
HAH! I love the "confessional" statement. Never thought of it that way. I've tended to just climb up a couple blocks above and block them from getting up and swiping down at them.
I recently was playing with Skyrim and got the Fury spell and used it like I do the skeletons in Minecraft. I was in Morvunskar and had a couple mages attacking me so I cast Fury on the one farther away and then moved around the front one so the back one's attacks were hitting the first and they duked it out and I then easily killed the damaged winner. So yes the people having trouble with skeletons need to listen to those of us who DON'T have any problems with them so they can learn how to deal with them
Minecraft 1.9 skeleton strategy:
1) Use a shield - ACTIVELY block with it!
2) Move so the skeletons shoot each other and/or other mobs.
3) Lather, Rinse, Repeat.....
Thanks for the support. Glad I was able to help with the question.
What kind of cheese is 1.9's PVP? Is it Cheddar because its delicious? Is it Pepper Jack because its controversial and has a zing to it? Is it Blue cheese because its definitely different?
OK my kid and I have played with Megacraft. The animations are over the top, the witches are annoying, so yeah it's cool
Neither of us seem to have played Megaman so we've not got much to compare it to but it certainly is a neat setup you've done.
Oh the wither looks quite awesome there!!!
That would be a placebo effect caused by your anti-1.9 bias. Weather was not changed in anyway at all in 1.9.
Also hostile mobs don't spawn in rain, they spawn during thunderstorms because of the light level, which are much rarer than rain.
You can't find it fun because you don't want to say you enjoy an update that changes combat, you're just looking for ways that 1.9 is bad. And every time you leave a reason, they stretch further and further beyond fact.
Mining and crafting since 1.2.5, baby. I'm such a pro that---Okay who put my noob test results in my signature?!
Why are you so fascinated with my description?
All of those haters are just people with no skill and they think that the meaning of a fun thing in Minecraft (PVP) is just hammering their mouse/ D-Pad to make it just a contest of the fastest clicker.
100% Agree with you! They just want it easier which will actually harm the community more. They need to learn that it's change and it was for the better. Thank you, friend
loved the 1.9 update and hope they improve combat even more as well as mobs.
i love the new skeletons! the only thing annoying is how the axe is better then the sword even tho its slower.
in fact i just posted about a cool way to make minecraft even harder (not like it is) i think its a great suggestion
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/suggestions/2672239-new-game-mode-extreme-hardcore
You can't negate it. Minecraft 1.9 is appreciated by the most of the people
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Curse PremiumYeah, I suppose I am serving a niche audience with my resource pack, but I'm going to serve that audience to the best of my ability. It helps that I genuinely love what I create too.
Oh, and to keep things on-topic, another thing you're missing out on if you stubbornly insist on hating 1.9 is the awesome new Mending enchantment. I became too conservative to use diamond gear after 1.8 removed almost all diamond gear from villager trades, but after fishing up some Mending books, I march around in diamond gear all the time again. It makes Thorns worthwhile to have on a chest plate too!
What's really interesting is because of how Mending works, it nags you to remove all your armor and wade out into a sea of experience completely naked and vulnerable if you have a specific tool you want to recharge. The Elytra is also a sneaky way to compel players to happily give up defensive power. 1.9 is especially clever about game balance that way.
Also the author of Tales from the Creature Keeper, a book series where humanity is long gone, but its successors, both domesticated and feral, could learn a lot from its legacy.
The axe isn't really better - it's a bit stronger but the sword is enough faster that it does more damage over time.
Nothing wrong with serving a niche audience especially when you do it well
I've not played with the mending too much but I can certainly see the benefit. My biggest issue with experience is that usually about the time I hit level 30 I do something stupid and fall from a great height into lava.....
Game balance seems to be a good part of the combat changes and I suspect that may be why some are so heavily against it.
True. It's human nature to become unsettled with change. But having said that who doesn't want more features, more blocks, more mobs....more...well....Minecraft! You'll always get those who hate the new...love the old. For me it really depends on additions that balance the game or add more dynamic features. Then again I'm the guy who couldn't care less if there is never another skin pack released....ever!
Thr33 Nin3s
I already replied but for some reason the post got deleted so here it goes again:
In your opinion the changes were "for the better". Not everyone thinks that. Not everyone wanted these changes. They were happy with 1.8 combat, and even if they learn that it is change does not mean that they aren't going to hate it. Also, reverting the 1.9 changes will not harm the community more. Even if they just made the mobs less OP and made the cooldown easy to disable it would not create problems. Also, the 1.9 fan boys are shouting so loud so it's like only their opinions matter. What are you supposed to do if you find yourself in the Elder Guardian room in an ocean monument, get sandwiched between two skeletons, or worse, anger the pigmen? Answer those for me.
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Curse PremiumThat's actually fine. You don't have to like the combat changes. The problem is you keep coming up with very bad excuses for not liking them, excuses that have been debunked over and over, yet you refuse to listen to reason and dismiss even the good parts of 1.9 out of prejudice. Then you make up stories about 1.9 fanboys shouting so loud that it's like only their opinions matter. That's probably why your posts keep getting deleted by the mods too.
Elder Guardians are intimidating at first, but if you're facing one, you either have a good diving helmet or a potion of water breathing already, so just go to town with your sword and use obstacles to break his line of laser sight on you. 1.9 will actually help you out a LOT here, given how food has gained much greater healing potency.
Being sandwiched between two skeletons can quickly become one of the safest combat scenarios in the game. Just move a hair and get them to start shooting each other, then slay the greatly weakened victor. As buffed as Skeletons were in 1.9, they remain the only mob with weakness, not strength, in numbers.
Angering pigmen happens all the time. They were actually nerfed some time back so that hitting one only angers pigmen within a certain radius, not every single pigman in the Nether, plus their anger actually wears off now if you leave them alone long enough. In 1.9, you want to handle them the same way you did in 1.8, i.e. don't engage them directly and use the terrain to your advantage. Have them follow you through choke points and around corners, pillar up 2-3 blocks and hack at them as they swarm around you, or box yourself in and pretend each one is lining up to visit your confessional. If all else fails, RUN. The Nether IS designed to be a place that relentlessly kills players, after all.
Please, for the love of Pete, actually listen to us for once.
Also the author of Tales from the Creature Keeper, a book series where humanity is long gone, but its successors, both domesticated and feral, could learn a lot from its legacy.
The skeleton solution is so easy I think you're too busy making up ways to explain how 1.9 is bad to think them through. If you're wearing anything better than enchanted leather, then you can afford to simply back up so they both face you. Then it's a simple matter of using your shield, closing in and retreating as necessary. The way Minecraft's combat system works, most battles are hardly planned, large amounts of it lie in your ability to improvise.
It's also easy enough to get out of their point-blank range and return fire. Your issue with skeletons is that you make no effort to strategically eliminate them with, say, a bow. Realistically, if you were to try to fight the 2 skeletons rather than flee, you would already have sufficient equipment to handle them. Or you're an idiot.
Honestly, if you refuse to use a shield, then you can't say 1.9 is bad. They provided you with plenty of things to use, but you simply won't use them.
The same goes for many things in other, previous updates. You can access the guardian temple without a potion of water breathing, substituting, for example, with torches. However, it is dangerous and idiotic. The same goes for refusing to use shields in an update that has buffed mobs and combat in general to make it necessary to use a shield. The folks at Mojang designed it so that these items have an important place in the core of the update. If you won't use them, or can't use them intelligently, it's your own problem.
Mining and crafting since 1.2.5, baby. I'm such a pro that---Okay who put my noob test results in my signature?!
Why are you so fascinated with my description?
For Zarlog: Dude, I understand you may not like my opinion but seriously, I need to agree with Elita here. "Honestly, if you refuse to use a shield, then you can't say 1.9 is bad. They provided you with plenty of things to use, but you simply won't use them." Great fact right there. And thanks to Elita, he answered the questions YOU wanted ME to answer which I couldn't. And as i'm going to say again, if you don't like the combat, that's your problem. If you don't want to even try, your problem. Revert to 1.8.x. Now I know when I said this someone (don't remember who) told me "But if we switch back, we won't get the other features of 1.9." Well, then just avoid the PvP aspect! There are many simple work arounds but many of you have to still complain.
For Elita: Great thing you wrote. I really wanted to quote it and express myself from that. Some people just make horrible excuses to hate on 1.9. Now, I'm not one sided. I'm not being rude in any form to anyone. I just think that some people needs to know there are work arounds.
i know why im hating 1.9 the PVP IS ABSALUTE CHEESE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the support. Glad I was able to help with the question.
What kind of cheese is 1.9's PVP? Is it Cheddar because its delicious? Is it Pepper Jack because its controversial and has a zing to it? Is it Blue cheese because its definitely different?
Mining and crafting since 1.2.5, baby. I'm such a pro that---Okay who put my noob test results in my signature?!
Why are you so fascinated with my description?
think about it they have a pvp cool down that meens no more jitter clicking no more winning pvp fights are longer
Please look through this discussion before making comments like this. This argument is extremely basic, and it's been discussed dozens of times...
Mining and crafting since 1.2.5, baby. I'm such a pro that---Okay who put my noob test results in my signature?!
Why are you so fascinated with my description?
if you have enough time to look through all the comments thats pretty said.
HAH! I love the "confessional" statement. Never thought of it that way. I've tended to just climb up a couple blocks above and block them from getting up and swiping down at them.
I recently was playing with Skyrim and got the Fury spell and used it like I do the skeletons in Minecraft. I was in Morvunskar and had a couple mages attacking me so I cast Fury on the one farther away and then moved around the front one so the back one's attacks were hitting the first and they duked it out and I then easily killed the damaged winner. So yes the people having trouble with skeletons need to listen to those of us who DON'T have any problems with them so they can learn how to deal with them
Minecraft 1.9 skeleton strategy:
1) Use a shield - ACTIVELY block with it!
2) Move so the skeletons shoot each other and/or other mobs.
3) Lather, Rinse, Repeat.....
I vote Pepper Jack due to the zing....