I'm using 1.7.4. It's very stable and it's joyous to run
I run 1.8 pre-release, which works like a charm (the first pre-release, not 1.8.1 and that stuff). 1.8 isn't too bad for me, but being underwater kills my framerate.
I run 1.8 pre-release, which works like a charm (the first pre-release, not 1.8.1 and that stuff). 1.8 isn't too bad for me, but being underwater kills my framerate.
So, you have to run a pre-release. Not the official release and it works like a charm unless you're underwater... and 1.8.1 (the lastest update) doesn't work... thanks, but I'll stick to 1.7.4.
Yes 1.8pre1 works perfectly the water lag appeared in 1.8pre2. Too bad the pre1 isn't even available on the official launcher..
Which is very odd since the 1.7.10 pre's ARE available.. Why would they hide the 1.8pre's? It's not consistent with everything else they are doing. I guess the best we can get is the final snapshot before the first pre, 14w34d.
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going to say it but minecraft 1,8 is more broken then mw2 and we all know it
Possibly even more broken than Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing and Air Control combined! At least it's playable for some PCs..
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Why can't we just let this thread die? All of this is opinion based. All the points have been stated. This is basically the Five Nights at Freddy's 2 prequel sequel argument and stuff like the "console wars". if you don't like 1.8, fine, but let this thread die.
how is game breaking lag opinion based? i mean i dont want it there but its there breaking my game but you do know every time you post it just keeps coming back up and keeps it alive so i will thank you for that but how is that if this thread stays alive how in any way is it hurting you if you really did not care about this thread you would just leave it for us who do not like it
i think we should all use common sense and logic when we answer and ask a question but always stay open minded
just cause science fails to explain something does not mean its real (afterlife,big foot, ghosts etc..) does not mean its fake try to stay opened mined instead of closed
I joined in 1.2.5, summer 2012. First thing I ever built was a bunker in a hill next to a swamp, that had a diamond block entrance with a piston door, with bedrock and minecart tracks further in. I wish I'd kept the map around.
Each of those already has their own threads! We don't need to talk about those here. The entire point of this thread is to complain and/or debate/insult the merits of 1.8. Nothing worthwhile has been brought up recently. There is nothing else that could be said here that hasn't already been said in the last four months!
The same illogical crap is being brought up repeatedly by both 'sides,' and it's not stopping. It's on the verge of just being a hatefest. In fact, it might as well be one. This is not a discussion. This is a shouting match. It's a wonder that the mods haven't locked this thread already. Since they haven't, or won't, it's our job to quit replying to it.
Most of this comment of yours, the beginning of your recent string of comments...
If you're not disappointed with 1.8 you'd have to be wilfully ignorant of the complete and total train wreak that it is
Blahdy blahdy blah I hate what Notch did
...isn't even about 1.8 at all. Why are you talking about Notch's selling out here? There is a whole other thread in which to complain about that. The lag has been discussed to death. The length of time it took has been discussed to death. The API is independent of updates altogether, even if it is eventually packaged with one. Bukkit has its own thread to complain in.
The ironic part is that it's people like you who will NEVER let this thread die and fyi, the majority of this thread is not opinion based although that's what you WANT to believe. Also being equally as ironic the majority of the opinion based remarks that I see are coming from people like yourself.
No, pretty much the majority of it is unsupported assertions, logic that doesn't connect, or complaining. It kinda goes with the thread name: "I am disappointed in 1.8." It's a thread specifically devoted to throwing opinions around. Regardless of any facts thrown into the mix, it's basically a shouting match with a tiny amount of logic mixed in just to make people mad.
The thing is, this thread can't die except by mutual agreement and ignoring new posters. And that can't happen unless someone signals their intent to kill it. And what does "people like yourself" mean to you? People who disagree with you? People who dislike this thread? People who want to stop the mess this thread is? People who just plain don't do things you like? What an easy way to shut people down without an ounce of logic!
This thread has nothing to do with lag. I quote myself. Page 57, if you want context.
Most of this comment of yours, the beginning of your recent string of comments...
...isn't even about 1.8 at all. Why are you talking about Notch's selling out here? There is a whole other thread in which to complain about that. The lag has been discussed to death. The length of time it took has been discussed to death. The API is independent of updates altogether, even if it is eventually packaged with one. Bukkit has its own thread to complain in.
No, pretty much the majority of it is unsupported assertions, logic that doesn't connect, or complaining. It kinda goes with the thread name: "I am disappointed in 1.8." It's a thread specifically devoted to throwing opinions around. Regardless of any facts thrown into the mix, it's basically a shouting match with a tiny amount of logic mixed in just to make people mad.
The thing is, this thread can't die except by mutual agreement and ignoring new posters. And that can't happen unless someone signals their intent to kill it. And what does "people like yourself" mean to you? People who disagree with you? People who dislike this thread? People who want to stop the mess this thread is? People who just plain don't do things you like? What an easy way to shut people down without an ounce of logic!
i find it ironic you talk about making this thread die and has nothing good left yet your still here every time you post on it it will just last longer if you really did want this thread dead you would just leave it and never come back yet your still here talking about how we need to kill this thread really ironic when you think about it...
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i think we should all use common sense and logic when we answer and ask a question but always stay open minded
just cause science fails to explain something does not mean its real (afterlife,big foot, ghosts etc..) does not mean its fake try to stay opened mined instead of closed
i find it ironic you talk about making this thread die and has nothing good left yet your still here every time you post on it it will just last longer if you really did want this thread dead you would just leave it and never come back yet your still here talking about how we need to kill this thread really ironic when you think about it...
Lol we totally do think the same! Yeah, he just can't let it go for some reason. He even made sure to quote me several times so everyone can read what I said (that he doesn't like) all over again. Also I was completely unaware that lag spikes and game crashes are now considered an opinion and that if you plan on mentioning the name "Notch" you must do so in a designated thread. Where can I find a Mod's sticky on that?
Best thing is to not even respond, or take irrational comments like that seriously. I should never have responded to him in the first place.
The bottom line is that 1.8 killed the rising popularity of this game. These forums used to be very active; they're practically dead now. It also makes you wonder how many people just stopped playing MC and moved on to other games do to Mojang's total incompetence and utter failure to release a stable version and the API they promised. After awhile people get tired of waiting; they can't update their servers. Heck, Mojang couldn't even issue a patch for the crippling lag. Then Notch folds like a cheap rug and blames everyone for HIS OWN decisions... It's pathetic.
i find it ironic you talk about making this thread die and has nothing good left yet your still here every time you post on it it will just last longer if you really did want this thread dead you would just leave it and never come back yet your still here talking about how we need to kill this thread really ironic when you think about it...
I just told you: threads like this must be killed all together as a concerted effort. I wanted this thread dead two months ago, so I didn't reply. Surprise surprise, it didn't die even though I wasn't there for two months. Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away.
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Lol we totally do think the same! Yeah, he just can't let it go for some reason. He even made sure to quote me several times so everyone can read what I said (that he doesn't like) all over again. Also I was completely unaware that lag spikes and game crashes are now considered an opinion and that if you plan on mentioning the name "Notch" you must do so in a designated thread. Where can I find a Mod's sticky on that?
Ignoring the meta-argument strawmanning nonsense... Never said lag spikes were an opinion. I said they weren't relevant to this thread. They're relevant to [url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/recent-updates-and-snapshots/2205517-i-found-the-source-of-the-extreme-lag-in]this one[/url]. Also didn't say mentioning the name "Notch" meant a designated thread. I said discussion about Notch leaving wasn't relevant to the current discussion. Yes, talking about things that the thread is not about is against the rules. You wanted a sticky? Here. Can't get more official than this.
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This thread is not a place to vent about everything you despise about Mojang right now. It's about 1.8's features. Everything else is off-topic. There are other threads for lag, the API, and Notch's departure.
The bottom line is that 1.8 killed [size=x-small][s]the rising popularity of[/s][/size] this game. [size=x-small][s]These forums used to be very active; they're practically dead now. It also makes you wonder how many people just stopped playing MC and moved on to other games do to[/s] [s]Mojang's total incompetence and utter[/s] [s]failure to release a stable version[/s][s] and the API they promised[/s]. [s]After awhile people get tired of waiting; they can't update their servers. Heck, Mojang couldn't even issue a patch for the crippling lag.[/s][/size] [size=x-small][s]Then Notch folds like a cheap rug and blames everyone for HIS OWN decisions... It's pathetic. [/s][/size][b]Most of this is irrelevant.[/b]
I'd gladly discuss the effects of 1.8 on the community and the popularity of Minecraft... in a different thread. Like [url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/2276858-is-minecraft-losing-popularity]this one[/url], maybe. Or any of the other "is Minecraft dying" threads that [url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/190790-minecraft-is-dying]stretch[/url] [url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/158793-is-the-minecraft-forums-dying-out]back[/url] [url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/128773-vacations-and-why-minecraft-is-dying]for[/url] [url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/114010-minecraft-is-dying]years[/url].
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Lol we totally do think the same! Yeah, he just can't let it go for some reason. He even made sure to quote me several times so everyone can read what I said (that he doesn't like) all over again. Also I was completely unaware that lag spikes and game crashes are now considered an opinion and that if you plan on mentioning the name "Notch" you must do so in a designated thread. Where can I find a Mod's sticky on that?
Best thing is to not even respond, or take irrational comments like that seriously. I should never have responded to him in the first place.
The bottom line is that 1.8 killed the rising popularity of this game. These forums used to be very active; they're practically dead now. It also makes you wonder how many people just stopped playing MC and moved on to other games do to Mojang's total incompetence and utter failure to release a stable version and the API they promised. After awhile people get tired of waiting; they can't update their servers. Heck, Mojang couldn't even issue a patch for the crippling lag. Then Notch folds like a cheap rug and blames everyone for HIS OWN decisions... It's pathetic.
fully agree with you and thank god i thought it was just me but ya the forums seemed so dead for the past month i thought ever one went to a different section but ya i agree with you that we should not respond to people like him for the fact the only reason they stay here is for getting flame wars started
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i think we should all use common sense and logic when we answer and ask a question but always stay open minded
just cause science fails to explain something does not mean its real (afterlife,big foot, ghosts etc..) does not mean its fake try to stay opened mined instead of closed
fully agree with you and thank god i thought it was just me but ya the forums seemed so dead for the past month i thought ever one went to a different section but ya i agree with you that we should not respond to people like him for the fact the only reason they stay here is for getting flame wars started
Yeah, I'm so done responding to him. He's trying to tell people what threads they can and can't post in and what they can and can't say. Too bad he's not a Moderator . Honestly, I find his whole approach to be completely asinine. The forums are for having discussions, but oddly he's not on the forums to do that and I'm not into having a 10 page long argument with him over why his behaviour is inappropriate.
I'm tellin' ya people are moving on to other games. For instance, during 1.7 I was planning on making my own server again, but I figured 1.8 would be coming out soon (Mojang didn't give a release date); it took a year and now you can't even play that version and Mojang ruined Bukkit so you have no plugins, or API (which Mojang also promised but didn't deliver on).
I had some pretty extensive plans and I have my whole spawn made, but can't make a server unless I want I want to run an obsolete API in an outdated version of MC. It's just not worth it.
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Haha, I just realised in my last comment I said "Notch folded like a cheap rug." I meant:
I tried to read the whole thread, but didn't get through it all, so apologies if this has already been stated.
I personally like the 1.8 update mostly because I'm just a casual player who hasn't added any mods and plays just pure vanilla Minecraft. So, had they not put in things like armour stands and other things that you can find in other mods I'd never get them. I have no desire to muck around with trying to install mods so I'm dependent on Mojang and what they do when the update Minecraft.
As far as I can tell, there are so many mods out there that it is difficult for Mojang to not emulate some stuff that you can get in other mods. I find it interesting that people complain about what was and what was not added when it is clear that anything that they where upset about can be solved by adding the appropriate mod. I'm not in that position and I am thankful to get what Mojang gives.
I find it interesting that people complain about what was and what was not added when it is clear that anything that they where upset about can be solved by adding the appropriate mod. I'm not in that position and I am thankful to get what Mojang gives.
The majority of people aren't complaining about what was or wasn't added. They are complaining that this update took a year to create and you can't even play it due to the lag and the countless bugs. Then on top of that, for a years work's the amount of new content that was added is embarrassing. Mojang has done more in a month in countess other versions.
Mojang should be ashamed of themselves for releasing an official version in this state. Then again, given the sorry state Notch released the first official version in we should have all expected this.
The majority of people aren't complaining about what was or wasn't added. They are complaining that this update took a year to create and you can't even play it due to the lag and the countless bugs. Then on top of that, for a years work's the amount of new content that was added is embarrassing. Mojang has done more in a month in countess other versions.
Mojang should be ashamed of themselves for releasing an official version in this state. Then again, given the sorry state Notch released the first official version in we should have all expected this.
Well the OP's complaint certainly was about what was and wasn't included. Like I said I didn't see where the discussion evolved to, I was just more replying to what the OP said.
I don't get any lag and if it is buggy I haven't noticed. But, I'm not an avid player so I don't know how much that matters. I also don't care who sold out to who, as long as Minecraft stays Minecraft I'm fine with that. If Microsoft starts adding tiers and screwing around with a winning formula and evolves it into something that takes my fun away then I'll stop playing Minecraft and move on.
Edit: Just to be clear, I'm not saying that nobody should have concerns, just relating my personal experience.
the "whining" person has a point... There's always one one person who whines about others posts (YOU). If you have nothing good to say, don't bother saying anything at all.
I second that.
I run 1.8 pre-release, which works like a charm (the first pre-release, not 1.8.1 and that stuff). 1.8 isn't too bad for me, but being underwater kills my framerate.
Thats the best thing I have ever heard on the forums
So, you have to run a pre-release. Not the official release and it works like a charm unless you're underwater... and 1.8.1 (the lastest update) doesn't work... thanks, but I'll stick to 1.7.4.
Which is very odd since the 1.7.10 pre's ARE available.. Why would they hide the 1.8pre's? It's not consistent with everything else they are doing. I guess the best we can get is the final snapshot before the first pre, 14w34d.
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argeed this game breaking lag has just ruined minecraft 1.8 for me
am using beta 1.7 back in the glory days of minecraft
how is game breaking lag opinion based? i mean i dont want it there but its there breaking my game but you do know every time you post it just keeps coming back up and keeps it alive so i will thank you for that but how is that if this thread stays alive how in any way is it hurting you if you really did not care about this thread you would just leave it for us who do not like it
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i think we should all use common sense and logic when we answer and ask a question but always stay open minded
just cause science fails to explain something does not mean its real (afterlife,big foot, ghosts etc..) does not mean its fake try to stay opened mined instead of closed
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I joined in 1.2.5, summer 2012. First thing I ever built was a bunker in a hill next to a swamp, that had a diamond block entrance with a piston door, with bedrock and minecart tracks further in. I wish I'd kept the map around.
This thread has nothing to do with lag. I quote myself. Page 57, if you want context.
Most of this comment of yours, the beginning of your recent string of comments...
...isn't even about 1.8 at all. Why are you talking about Notch's selling out here? There is a whole other thread in which to complain about that. The lag has been discussed to death. The length of time it took has been discussed to death. The API is independent of updates altogether, even if it is eventually packaged with one. Bukkit has its own thread to complain in.
No, pretty much the majority of it is unsupported assertions, logic that doesn't connect, or complaining. It kinda goes with the thread name: "I am disappointed in 1.8." It's a thread specifically devoted to throwing opinions around. Regardless of any facts thrown into the mix, it's basically a shouting match with a tiny amount of logic mixed in just to make people mad.
The thing is, this thread can't die except by mutual agreement and ignoring new posters. And that can't happen unless someone signals their intent to kill it. And what does "people like yourself" mean to you? People who disagree with you? People who dislike this thread? People who want to stop the mess this thread is? People who just plain don't do things you like? What an easy way to shut people down without an ounce of logic!
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i find it ironic you talk about making this thread die and has nothing good left yet your still here every time you post on it it will just last longer if you really did want this thread dead you would just leave it and never come back yet your still here talking about how we need to kill this thread really ironic when you think about it...
"good night, good luck" -dying light
i think we should all use common sense and logic when we answer and ask a question but always stay open minded
just cause science fails to explain something does not mean its real (afterlife,big foot, ghosts etc..) does not mean its fake try to stay opened mined instead of closed
Lol we totally do think the same! Yeah, he just can't let it go for some reason. He even made sure to quote me several times so everyone can read what I said (that he doesn't like) all over again. Also I was completely unaware that lag spikes and game crashes are now considered an opinion and that if you plan on mentioning the name "Notch" you must do so in a designated thread. Where can I find a Mod's sticky on that?
Best thing is to not even respond, or take irrational comments like that seriously. I should never have responded to him in the first place.
The bottom line is that 1.8 killed the rising popularity of this game. These forums used to be very active; they're practically dead now. It also makes you wonder how many people just stopped playing MC and moved on to other games do to Mojang's total incompetence and utter failure to release a stable version and the API they promised. After awhile people get tired of waiting; they can't update their servers. Heck, Mojang couldn't even issue a patch for the crippling lag. Then Notch folds like a cheap rug and blames everyone for HIS OWN decisions... It's pathetic.
I just told you: threads like this must be killed all together as a concerted effort. I wanted this thread dead two months ago, so I didn't reply. Surprise surprise, it didn't die even though I wasn't there for two months. Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away.
Ignoring the meta-argument strawmanning nonsense... Never said lag spikes were an opinion. I said they weren't relevant to this thread. They're relevant to [url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/recent-updates-and-snapshots/2205517-i-found-the-source-of-the-extreme-lag-in]this one[/url]. Also didn't say mentioning the name "Notch" meant a designated thread. I said discussion about Notch leaving wasn't relevant to the current discussion. Yes, talking about things that the thread is not about is against the rules. You wanted a sticky? Here. Can't get more official than this.
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This thread is not a place to vent about everything you despise about Mojang right now. It's about 1.8's features. Everything else is off-topic. There are other threads for lag, the API, and Notch's departure.
I'd gladly discuss the effects of 1.8 on the community and the popularity of Minecraft... in a different thread. Like [url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/2276858-is-minecraft-losing-popularity]this one[/url], maybe. Or any of the other "is Minecraft dying" threads that [url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/190790-minecraft-is-dying]stretch[/url] [url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/158793-is-the-minecraft-forums-dying-out]back[/url] [url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/128773-vacations-and-why-minecraft-is-dying]for[/url] [url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/114010-minecraft-is-dying]years[/url].
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fully agree with you and thank god i thought it was just me but ya the forums seemed so dead for the past month i thought ever one went to a different section but ya i agree with you that we should not respond to people like him for the fact the only reason they stay here is for getting flame wars started
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i think we should all use common sense and logic when we answer and ask a question but always stay open minded
just cause science fails to explain something does not mean its real (afterlife,big foot, ghosts etc..) does not mean its fake try to stay opened mined instead of closed
Yeah, I'm so done responding to him. He's trying to tell people what threads they can and can't post in and what they can and can't say. Too bad he's not a Moderator
I'm tellin' ya people are moving on to other games. For instance, during 1.7 I was planning on making my own server again, but I figured 1.8 would be coming out soon (Mojang didn't give a release date); it took a year and now you can't even play that version and Mojang ruined Bukkit so you have no plugins, or API (which Mojang also promised but didn't deliver on).
I had some pretty extensive plans and I have my whole spawn made, but can't make a server unless I want I want to run an obsolete API in an outdated version of MC. It's just not worth it.
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Haha, I just realised in my last comment I said "Notch folded like a cheap rug." I meant:
- Notch lied like a cheap rug.
LolI personally like the 1.8 update mostly because I'm just a casual player who hasn't added any mods and plays just pure vanilla Minecraft. So, had they not put in things like armour stands and other things that you can find in other mods I'd never get them. I have no desire to muck around with trying to install mods so I'm dependent on Mojang and what they do when the update Minecraft.
As far as I can tell, there are so many mods out there that it is difficult for Mojang to not emulate some stuff that you can get in other mods. I find it interesting that people complain about what was and what was not added when it is clear that anything that they where upset about can be solved by adding the appropriate mod. I'm not in that position and I am thankful to get what Mojang gives.
The majority of people aren't complaining about what was or wasn't added. They are complaining that this update took a year to create and you can't even play it due to the lag and the countless bugs. Then on top of that, for a years work's the amount of new content that was added is embarrassing. Mojang has done more in a month in countess other versions.
Mojang should be ashamed of themselves for releasing an official version in this state. Then again, given the sorry state Notch released the first official version in we should have all expected this.
Well the OP's complaint certainly was about what was and wasn't included. Like I said I didn't see where the discussion evolved to, I was just more replying to what the OP said.
I don't get any lag and if it is buggy I haven't noticed. But, I'm not an avid player so I don't know how much that matters. I also don't care who sold out to who, as long as Minecraft stays Minecraft I'm fine with that. If Microsoft starts adding tiers and screwing around with a winning formula and evolves it into something that takes my fun away then I'll stop playing Minecraft and move on.
Edit: Just to be clear, I'm not saying that nobody should have concerns, just relating my personal experience.