So I know that you can sell skins, worlds, resourcepacks etc in bedrock edition (marketplace) but can you sell skins, resourcepacks etc in java edition where there is no such thing as the marketplace.
I'm just curious as if that would even work and if it works, if you are even allowed to do that.
You can sell minecraft skins, resource packs, etc. in Java Edition but you would have to do it using external means of payment and communication (discord servers and PayPal for example). Selling skins specifically, though, it would have to be a custom skin service as if you try to sell a bunch of premade skins, someone is gonna buy them and distribute them for free through discord or by applying them to his account and letting ppl download it through NameMC.
The EULA forbids making money off of "downloadable content", "add-ons/mods", or "parts of the game", which presumably includes skins and resource packs, as well as worlds and data packs, since you are basically just modifying the default version of the game's files, and otherwise they require the full game in order to be used:
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The exception is where Mojang specifically allows it - the Bedrock Edition-exclusive "marketplace". I can't say for sure if ads or donations which do not give any perks are allowed (e.g. Optifine is all but selling capes, which are doubly forbidden as only Mojang is supposed to give them out, even for free); they only mention being able to indirectly monetize videos via ads, but I'd assume so given how many modders accept donations.
The EULA forbids making money off of "downloadable content", "add-ons/mods", or "parts of the game", which presumably includes skins and resource packs, as well as worlds and data packs, since you are basically just modifying the default version of the game's files, and otherwise they require the full game in order to be used:
The exception is where Mojang specifically allows it - the Bedrock Edition-exclusive "marketplace". I can't say for sure if ads or donations which do not give any perks are allowed (e.g. Optifine is all but selling capes, which are doubly forbidden as only Mojang is supposed to give them out, even for free); they only mention being able to indirectly monetize videos via ads, but I'd assume so given how many modders accept donations.
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What I was thinking of with regards to NFT was "Hand Crafted Products" under the terms. Whether or not an NFT would qualify is the question….
qv. https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/terms
[With the NFT avoiding running afoul of the 'mass produced' prohibition, a graphic file which could serve as a skin might then be permissible.
How much the precedent of legal kits – the assembly of which results in an illegal 'switchblade' might apply – would seem to be worth considering.
It would be passing strange if MS/Mj was able to claim ownership of any graphic simply because it could be used as a skin.
For an example closer to gaming, consider the existence of fine-scale modeling "superdetailing sets" which comprise parts intended to replace those provided in a 'vanilla' kit with different (and generally higher quality) piece; this would seem to be analogous from swapping out the genreic Steve/Alex for a customized MC skin.
A good part of the eventual answer to this question is – most unfortunately – on how litigatious various parties are [and even worse the depth of their pockets.]
I'd be surprised if there was enough money in the java market (given how available free skins are) to make it worth anyone's time as a business (much less if litigation was needed), and I have no interest myself (beyond intellectual curiosity), but the advent of a new texchnology (like NFTs) does make for interesting question….]
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Both the Java and Bedrock edition are licensed proprietary code , it gets complicated with the java version , like you said no store to sell at. Everything is a derivative work and even though you create a mod , texture-pack, as soon as its in any minecraft format , microsoft has got you in a license violation if you profit from it. Unless you live in a communist country and never plan on traveling to any part of the rest of the world, don't try and profit without explicit license permissions from all software companies used in the creation of your project .
Java EULA says you can't. But creator donations I assume is the way to go about it not the works themselves. Whatever Curseforge or other sources offer with their author programs.
But Bedrock has the marketplace which is filled with purchasable 'community' and official skins/resource packs and worlds so it's a bit backwards I think/strict to Bedrock as the money making option. Larger userbase, locked down heavily monitored (I assume even though basic worlds exist that Youtubers have shown) but you can get money from it there but can't Java.
So I know that you can sell skins, worlds, resourcepacks etc in bedrock edition (marketplace) but can you sell skins, resourcepacks etc in java edition where there is no such thing as the marketplace.
I'm just curious as if that would even work and if it works, if you are even allowed to do that.
You can sell minecraft skins, resource packs, etc. in Java Edition but you would have to do it using external means of payment and communication (discord servers and PayPal for example). Selling skins specifically, though, it would have to be a custom skin service as if you try to sell a bunch of premade skins, someone is gonna buy them and distribute them for free through discord or by applying them to his account and letting ppl download it through NameMC.
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<span style="color: #33cccc;">if</span> <span style="color: #ff6600;">(chaos <span style="color: #ff00ff;">==</span> true)</span> { <span style="color: #339966;">run</span>(); } <span style="color: #3366ff;">else</span> { <span style="color: #339966;">Death</span>();ok thanks!
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<span style="color: #33cccc;">if</span> <span style="color: #ff6600;">(chaos <span style="color: #ff00ff;">==</span> true)</span> { <span style="color: #339966;">run</span>(); } <span style="color: #3366ff;">else</span> { <span style="color: #339966;">Death</span>();Particularly for skins, you might look into the various NFT [Non-Fungible Token] services…
Exactly how this would be viewed in terms of the EULA needs a lawyer (at least). [NFTs did not exist when the EULA was written.]
The EULA forbids making money off of "downloadable content", "add-ons/mods", or "parts of the game", which presumably includes skins and resource packs, as well as worlds and data packs, since you are basically just modifying the default version of the game's files, and otherwise they require the full game in order to be used:
The exception is where Mojang specifically allows it - the Bedrock Edition-exclusive "marketplace". I can't say for sure if ads or donations which do not give any perks are allowed (e.g. Optifine is all but selling capes, which are doubly forbidden as only Mojang is supposed to give them out, even for free); they only mention being able to indirectly monetize videos via ads, but I'd assume so given how many modders accept donations.
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What I was thinking of with regards to NFT was "Hand Crafted Products" under the terms. Whether or not an NFT would qualify is the question….
qv. https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/terms
[With the NFT avoiding running afoul of the 'mass produced' prohibition, a graphic file which could serve as a skin might then be permissible.
How much the precedent of legal kits – the assembly of which results in an illegal 'switchblade' might apply – would seem to be worth considering.
It would be passing strange if MS/Mj was able to claim ownership of any graphic simply because it could be used as a skin.
For an example closer to gaming, consider the existence of fine-scale modeling "superdetailing sets" which comprise parts intended to replace those provided in a 'vanilla' kit with different (and generally higher quality) piece; this would seem to be analogous from swapping out the genreic Steve/Alex for a customized MC skin.
A good part of the eventual answer to this question is – most unfortunately – on how litigatious various parties are [and even worse the depth of their pockets.]
I'd be surprised if there was enough money in the java market (given how available free skins are) to make it worth anyone's time as a business (much less if litigation was needed), and I have no interest myself (beyond intellectual curiosity), but the advent of a new texchnology (like NFTs) does make for interesting question….]
Both the Java and Bedrock edition are licensed proprietary code , it gets complicated with the java version , like you said no store to sell at. Everything is a derivative work and even though you create a mod , texture-pack, as soon as its in any minecraft format , microsoft has got you in a license violation if you profit from it. Unless you live in a communist country and never plan on traveling to any part of the rest of the world, don't try and profit without explicit license permissions from all software companies used in the creation of your project .
Java EULA says you can't. But creator donations I assume is the way to go about it not the works themselves. Whatever Curseforge or other sources offer with their author programs.
But Bedrock has the marketplace which is filled with purchasable 'community' and official skins/resource packs and worlds so it's a bit backwards I think/strict to Bedrock as the money making option. Larger userbase, locked down heavily monitored (I assume even though basic worlds exist that Youtubers have shown) but you can get money from it there but can't Java.
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