I've never played Minecraft before but I want to start. What edition do you's recommend getting? And is it true that if you purchase the Java edition that you get a free key for the Windows 10 version?
I've never played Minecraft before but I want to start. What edition do you's recommend getting? And is it true that if you purchase the Java edition that you get a free key for the Windows 10 version?
I'd double check on receiving the windows 10 version for free with the purchase of the java edition. Last I saw, it was still happening a couple months ago.
As for which version you should play, it'll depend on what your looking for. The windows 10 version (bedrock edition) runs better and allows you to cross platform play with others from the bedrock edition. With that said, it has some drawbacks. The bedrock community seems to be smaller than the java edition community and there is less mods and addons being developed by the community for it.
In short, if you're just looking to play vanilla minecraft by yourself or maybe with a couple friends, then I would play bedrock. If you think you'll be more interested in checking out a lot of mods or would like a larger community to play multiplayer with, then I would play Java.
The Windows 10 version has a cash shop (called the marketplace) where you need to pay real money to purchase things to play with in the game.
Java has one of the most robust modding communities in gaming, to the point where if you ever get bored of vanilla minecraft there are so many modpacks with such different play styles that it's almost like getting a dozen extra games for free.
I'd also recommend asking in the Bedrock part of the forum (Win-10 edition, phone version, newer console versions etc.) to see if they have a different perspective there.
The Windows 10 version has a cash shop (called the marketplace) where you need to pay real money to purchase things to play with in the game.
okay, that is a completely optional feature. maps, texture packs, and data packs. can still be downloaded and installed manually for free.
as for which version, there's a few pointers to consider:
Windows 10 Edition:
- has much, much better performance
- doesn't require java to run
- is connected to your Microsoft account instead of a Mojang account - there's a pretty high rate of stolen MC accounts since it's not quite as secure
Java Edition:
- has a large modding community
- lets you play on older versions
- can be installed on Linux and Mac as well
true, I was kinda just trying to balance out the points. I still thoroughly enjoy the extremely better performance Win 10 edition provides, especially with update aquatic, though I mainly play Java due to mods. It's really all down to playstyle.
Java Edition Always. It's still updating and with the modding communinty compared to Windows 10 pay for content; it blows it way out of the water. I feel like the Windows 10 edition is just Microsoft being Microsoft. The only real difference is if you want to play with Xbox or PS4 players. But you will be bogged down to those limitations E.g. No mod packs for Xbox or PS4, no Windows 10 mods.
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The Windows 10 version is low quality because they have to throttle everything down for mobile device support. Windows 10 also has a little less stuff in it. And when playing on servers with mobile device players, the mobile device players aren't able to play nearly as well as someone on a console or computer. This makes for a bad experience when cross-playing with mobile devices. Also, on Windows 10 edition you have to pay Minecraft Coins (which cost real money) for all your mods and maps (well, you can only get specific ones for free in Windows 10, and it is hard to do so), whereas on Java edition you can get them for free from the internet. And you can't crossplay with Play Station users. What's more, the command system is harder to use, and so is the creative inventory. Windows 10 Edition makes you play in the latest version, even if you don't want to. And Windows 10 Edition costs a lot more than Java edition.
I don't see any reason why anyone would prefer Windows 10 edition over Java.
To download the other ones you need to make a folder in the versions folder for minecraft and put the client and JSON file for the versions in there. They all need to be named the same aside from file extensions. Once you do that, you will be able to choose that version when making a new profile with the minecraft launcher.
The Windows 10 version is low quality because they have to throttle everything down for mobile device support. Windows 10 also has a little less stuff in it. And when playing on servers with mobile device players, the mobile device players aren't able to play nearly as well as someone on a console or computer. This makes for a bad experience when cross-playing with mobile devices. Also, on Windows 10 edition you have to pay Minecraft Coins (which cost real money) for all your mods and maps (well, you can only get specific ones for free in Windows 10, and it is hard to do so), whereas on Java edition you can get them for free from the internet. And you can't crossplay with Play Station users. What's more, the command system is harder to use, and so is the creative inventory. Windows 10 Edition makes you play in the latest version, even if you don't want to. And Windows 10 Edition costs a lot more than Java edition.
wrong.
Windows 10 Edition is actually higher quality - personally, I have all the graphics enhancements you could get from vanilla Java Edition, plus a render distance of *eighty* (as opposed to the limit of 32 on JE), with a better framerate than JE could provide.
Crossplay isn't meant for a competitive experience, why should it matter if a mobile user has a little harder time?
You have never and will never be required to use the in-game store exclusively to obtain maps, skins, resourcepacks, and datapacks on non-console versions of BE. and installing the resources is just as easy as on Java edition, barring the sandboxing on windows 10 apps which can still be bypassed permanently by doing a single process once.
Windows 10 Edition costs literally 4 cents more than Java Edition - how is that "a lot"?
wrong.
Windows 10 Edition is actually higher quality - personally, I have all the graphics enhancements you could get from vanilla Java Edition, plus a render distance of *eighty* (as opposed to the limit of 32 on JE), with a better framerate than JE could provide.
Crossplay isn't meant for a competitive experience, why should it matter if a mobile user has a little harder time?
You have never and will never be required to use the in-game store exclusively to obtain maps, skins, resourcepacks, and datapacks on non-console versions of BE. and installing the resources is just as easy as on Java edition, barring the sandboxing on windows 10 apps which can still be bypassed permanently by doing a single process once.
Windows 10 Edition costs literally 4 cents more than Java Edition - how is that "a lot"?
you really need to do more research.
It runs well on your computer BECAUSE it's throttled down. It's designed to run well on Mobile, so running it on a computer is faster. It matters that Mobile players have a harder time because you need their help. A computer player could build a tower faster than a mobile player can build a house. You may not be required to buy packs on PC, but on other platforms, you are. And you must install one specifically made for win10 edition, as it will not work with a java edition mod or map. These are rare on the internet because most people just put it on the store. And the ones that are on the internet have titles like "FREE BEHAVIOUR PACK!!!", which looks and sounds like clickbait. And most of it probably is clickbait. And it is not just as easy, because the file path you go to in order to install the packs is more complicated. And it's easier to make mistakes. And it would make absolutely NO SENSE for Microsoft not to patch this because if they wanted these things to be obtainable for free, they wouldn't have made them cost money IN THE FIRST PLACE. And you still can't play on earlier versions.
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Remember those versions that minecraft pranked us with? Specifically:
Minecraft 2.0
Minecraft 1.VR-Pre1
Snapshot 15w14a
Minecraft 3D
Those are still downloadable! Watch this video for 2.0:
To download the other ones you need to make a folder in the versions folder for minecraft and put the client and JSON file for the versions in there. They all need to be named the same aside from file extensions. Once you do that, you will be able to choose that version when making a new profile with the minecraft launcher.
It's not throttled, it's just well optimized. If you've ever played BE or seen someone play BE, you would notice that it actually looks better than the JE in some cases (the most obvious being lighting).
Since BE uses C++ instead of Java, it doesn't have to worry about JRE or LWJGL (does MC still use LWJGL?) bloat AND they can directly interface with the hardware instead of dealing with virtualized code that has no direct path to the hardware.
It runs well on your computer BECAUSE it's throttled down. It's designed to run well on Mobile, so running it on a computer is faster. No, it runs better because it's purely native calls instead of running through a JRE and bridging libraries like LWJGL. It matters that Mobile players have a harder time because you need their help. A computer player could build a tower faster than a mobile player can build a house. Since when did I require help on my survival SMP to do everything I can already do on my own? You may not be required to buy packs on PC, but on other platforms, you are. Because that only makes sense? Yes, they could be free, but that's up to the creators to do. And you must install one specifically made for win10 edition, as it will not work with a java edition mod or map. Again, that only makes sense, they're completely different games from a coding standpoint. Their save formats, and a small portion of the resource locations, are different. These are rare on the internet because most people just put it on the store. Not really, there are plenty of places you can find Pocket Edition maps and resource packs on. And the ones that are on the internet have titles like "FREE BEHAVIOUR PACK!!!", which looks and sounds like clickbait. And most of it probably is clickbait. And people do the same thing with Java Edition stuff. And it is not just as easy, because the file path you go to in order to install the packs is more complicated. And it's easier to make mistakes. Because apparently you don't know how to create a shortcut SMH And it would make absolutely NO SENSE for Microsoft not to patch this because if they wanted these things to be obtainable for free, they wouldn't have made them cost money IN THE FIRST PLACE. The whole reason you have to get into the sandboxed area is due to how WMP works in the first place. Also, you can use the extension .mcpack (or something like that) on your resourcepack and then opening it will cause Minecraft: Windows 10 edition to install it for you. Wow, it's actually easier than Java Edition! And you still can't play on earlier versions. Hence why I used strikethrough on that part.
It's not throttled, it's just well optimized. If you've ever played BE or seen someone play BE, you would notice that it actually looks better than the JE in some cases (the most obvious being lighting). I don't think win10 looks any better than Java edition in any way.
Since BE uses C++ instead of Java, it doesn't have to worry about JRE or LWJGL (does MC still use LWJGL?) bloat AND they can directly interface with the hardware instead of dealing with virtualized code that has no direct path to the hardware. The JRE automatically tanslates all the code into something that CAN directly interface the hardware. After that is done, this problem no longer exists. The only time you have this problem is when first loading a new version of the game.
No, it runs better because it's purely native calls instead of running through a JRE and bridging libraries like LWJGL. See above.Since when did I require help on my survival SMP to do everything I can already do on my own? You may not need it, but there are many people who, in fact, WANT to crossplay with mobile users and get their help. But Minecraft makes this a bad experience.Because that only makes sense? Yes, they could be free, but that's up to the creators to do. It makes sense to make it required on PC also. Or, if you're not going to do that, then make it free on the other platforms. What doesn't make sense is having the costs differ extremely from platform to platform.Again, that only makes sense, they're completely different games from a coding standpoint. Their save formats, and a small portion of the resource locations, are different. They are different games, but the file formats and specifications remain the same. You can still use a .dat file in the same way, no matter what you are.Not really, there are plenty of places you can find Pocket Edition maps and resource packs on. But not as many as on Java edition.Because apparently you don't know how to create a shortcut SMH. You can create a shortcut after you initially found it, but the first time you have to find it yourself.The whole reason you have to get into the sandboxed area is due to how WMP works in the first place. But Microsoft owns and manages both, so they could find or create ways to not allow the mods to be added for free.Also, you can use the extension .mcpack (or something like that) on your resourcepack and then opening it will cause Minecraft: Windows 10 edition to install it for you. Wow, it's actually easier than Java Edition. But then you've got to ge figure out how to show file extensions and then change the file extension from ".zip" to ".mcpack" (most mods are downloaded in zip format). That's just as hard.
To download the other ones you need to make a folder in the versions folder for minecraft and put the client and JSON file for the versions in there. They all need to be named the same aside from file extensions. Once you do that, you will be able to choose that version when making a new profile with the minecraft launcher.
I feel you misunderstood some of it - first off, the file format difference is actually caused by how the game handles block metadata and entities. In order for a JE map to be loaded in BE, there would have to be a conversion process, which would more than likely break quite a few things due also to difference in how certain blocks are handled (redstone mechanics being an excellent example). secondly, I don't see how finding the WMP sandboxing area is that much harder than finding the appdata directory - however I will admit that gaining access into the directory (the one-time process I mentioned earlier) is a bit tricky. And if Microsoft wanted to allow Windows 10 to access and manage a non-sandboxed area, they would have to modify the required permissions of the game, which would certainly put off quite a few users.
Also I assume at the end you meant 'resourcepacks' and not 'mods'. And I disagree that simply enabling 'view all file extensions' is hard at all. See this picture:
I feel you misunderstood some of it - first off, the file format difference is actually caused by how the game handles block metadata and entities. In order for a JE map to be loaded in BE, there would have to be a conversion process, which would more than likely break quite a few things due also to difference in how certain blocks are handled (redstone mechanics being an excellent example). secondly, I don't see how finding the WMP sandboxing area is that much harder than finding the appdata directory - however I will admit that gaining access into the directory (the one-time process I mentioned earlier) is a bit tricky. And if Microsoft wanted to allow Windows 10 to access and manage a non-sandboxed area, they would have to modify the required permissions of the game, which would certainly put off quite a few users.
Also I assume at the end you meant 'resourcepacks' and not 'mods'. And I disagree that simply enabling 'view all file extensions' is hard at all. See this picture:
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I know that it would be hard to use a JE map in BE. I was simply using that as a reason that JE is better. Because JE has access to a lot more worlds, packs, etc. it is better. And many people are not going to be able to gain access to the file directory at all, due to lower privileges. But everyone can gain access to their own .minecraft folder. But, I do admit that view file extensions was easier than I thought. I did it when my computer still had windows 7 on it (in that version it was harder), and haven't done it since I upgraded my computer. But it could be inconvenient to have on for some people. I don't believe Microsoft would continue to allow people to do this without patching it up in some way, shape or form. It's losing money.
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Remember those versions that minecraft pranked us with? Specifically:
Minecraft 2.0
Minecraft 1.VR-Pre1
Snapshot 15w14a
Minecraft 3D
Those are still downloadable! Watch this video for 2.0:
To download the other ones you need to make a folder in the versions folder for minecraft and put the client and JSON file for the versions in there. They all need to be named the same aside from file extensions. Once you do that, you will be able to choose that version when making a new profile with the minecraft launcher.
Before Oct 19, Java was a no-brainer as it included both. Not anymore I am afraid.
IMHO Java gives you tons more freedom but you need a bit of computer savvy to really make it shine. I play MC with Optifine and high res packs and it looks miles better than what Win10 edition delivers. That said if you got friends who play on mobile/xbox via Realms, you want Win10.
One aspect not touched on this thread yet is VR. Win10 solution is quite seamless and polished, you just get the free app at Oculus or Vive store and it hooks into you MC Win10. Java takes a bit extra configuring. You need to install ViveCraft and then you can launch it from SteamVR. Takes some manual tuning but you have a lot more freedom there in terms if controls. Minecraft in VR is one heck of an experience.
Hi,
I've never played Minecraft before but I want to start. What edition do you's recommend getting? And is it true that if you purchase the Java edition that you get a free key for the Windows 10 version?
That offer ended.
When did it end? I bought the java edition a couple months ago and received the bedrock edition for free.
I'd double check on receiving the windows 10 version for free with the purchase of the java edition. Last I saw, it was still happening a couple months ago.
As for which version you should play, it'll depend on what your looking for. The windows 10 version (bedrock edition) runs better and allows you to cross platform play with others from the bedrock edition. With that said, it has some drawbacks. The bedrock community seems to be smaller than the java edition community and there is less mods and addons being developed by the community for it.
In short, if you're just looking to play vanilla minecraft by yourself or maybe with a couple friends, then I would play bedrock. If you think you'll be more interested in checking out a lot of mods or would like a larger community to play multiplayer with, then I would play Java.
It ended on October 19th.
The Windows 10 version has a cash shop (called the marketplace) where you need to pay real money to purchase things to play with in the game.
Java has one of the most robust modding communities in gaming, to the point where if you ever get bored of vanilla minecraft there are so many modpacks with such different play styles that it's almost like getting a dozen extra games for free.
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I'd recommend the Java version.
I'd also recommend asking in the Bedrock part of the forum (Win-10 edition, phone version, newer console versions etc.) to see if they have a different perspective there.
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okay, that is a completely optional feature. maps, texture packs, and data packs. can still be downloaded and installed manually for free.
as for which version, there's a few pointers to consider:
Windows 10 Edition:
- has much, much better performance
- doesn't require java to run
- is connected to your Microsoft account instead of a Mojang account - there's a pretty high rate of stolen MC accounts since it's not quite as secure
Java Edition:
- has a large modding community
- lets you play on older versions
- can be installed on Linux and Mac as well
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true, I was kinda just trying to balance out the points. I still thoroughly enjoy the extremely better performance Win 10 edition provides, especially with update aquatic, though I mainly play Java due to mods. It's really all down to playstyle.
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Java Edition Always. It's still updating and with the modding communinty compared to Windows 10 pay for content; it blows it way out of the water. I feel like the Windows 10 edition is just Microsoft being Microsoft. The only real difference is if you want to play with Xbox or PS4 players. But you will be bogged down to those limitations E.g. No mod packs for Xbox or PS4, no Windows 10 mods.
Windows 10 cannot play with ps4 players.
The Windows 10 version is low quality because they have to throttle everything down for mobile device support. Windows 10 also has a little less stuff in it. And when playing on servers with mobile device players, the mobile device players aren't able to play nearly as well as someone on a console or computer. This makes for a bad experience when cross-playing with mobile devices. Also, on Windows 10 edition you have to pay Minecraft Coins (which cost real money) for all your mods and maps (well, you can only get specific ones for free in Windows 10, and it is hard to do so), whereas on Java edition you can get them for free from the internet. And you can't crossplay with Play Station users. What's more, the command system is harder to use, and so is the creative inventory. Windows 10 Edition makes you play in the latest version, even if you don't want to. And Windows 10 Edition costs a lot more than Java edition.
I don't see any reason why anyone would prefer Windows 10 edition over Java.
Remember those versions that minecraft pranked us with? Specifically:
Those are still downloadable! Watch this video for 2.0:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQdu9LKAdIU
To download the other ones you need to make a folder in the versions folder for minecraft and put the client and JSON file for the versions in there. They all need to be named the same aside from file extensions. Once you do that, you will be able to choose that version when making a new profile with the minecraft launcher.
15w14a is on this link:
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/15w14a
1.RV-Pre1 is here:
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/1.RV-Pre1
Minecraft 3D is here:
https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Java_Edition_3D_Shareware_v1.34
From what I heard they are supposed to add cross-play support eventually. Again, just a microsoft thing.
wrong.
Windows 10 Edition is actually higher quality - personally, I have all the graphics enhancements you could get from vanilla Java Edition, plus a render distance of *eighty* (as opposed to the limit of 32 on JE), with a better framerate than JE could provide.
Crossplay isn't meant for a competitive experience, why should it matter if a mobile user has a little harder time?
You have never and will never be required to use the in-game store exclusively to obtain maps, skins, resourcepacks, and datapacks on non-console versions of BE. and installing the resources is just as easy as on Java edition, barring the sandboxing on windows 10 apps which can still be bypassed permanently by doing a single process once.
Windows 10 Edition costs literally 4 cents more than Java Edition - how is that "a lot"?
you really need to do more research.
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It runs well on your computer BECAUSE it's throttled down. It's designed to run well on Mobile, so running it on a computer is faster. It matters that Mobile players have a harder time because you need their help. A computer player could build a tower faster than a mobile player can build a house. You may not be required to buy packs on PC, but on other platforms, you are. And you must install one specifically made for win10 edition, as it will not work with a java edition mod or map. These are rare on the internet because most people just put it on the store. And the ones that are on the internet have titles like "FREE BEHAVIOUR PACK!!!", which looks and sounds like clickbait. And most of it probably is clickbait. And it is not just as easy, because the file path you go to in order to install the packs is more complicated. And it's easier to make mistakes. And it would make absolutely NO SENSE for Microsoft not to patch this because if they wanted these things to be obtainable for free, they wouldn't have made them cost money IN THE FIRST PLACE. And you still can't play on earlier versions.
Remember those versions that minecraft pranked us with? Specifically:
Those are still downloadable! Watch this video for 2.0:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQdu9LKAdIU
To download the other ones you need to make a folder in the versions folder for minecraft and put the client and JSON file for the versions in there. They all need to be named the same aside from file extensions. Once you do that, you will be able to choose that version when making a new profile with the minecraft launcher.
15w14a is on this link:
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/15w14a
1.RV-Pre1 is here:
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/1.RV-Pre1
Minecraft 3D is here:
https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Java_Edition_3D_Shareware_v1.34
It's not throttled, it's just well optimized. If you've ever played BE or seen someone play BE, you would notice that it actually looks better than the JE in some cases (the most obvious being lighting).
Since BE uses C++ instead of Java, it doesn't have to worry about JRE or LWJGL (does MC still use LWJGL?) bloat AND they can directly interface with the hardware instead of dealing with virtualized code that has no direct path to the hardware.
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Remember those versions that minecraft pranked us with? Specifically:
Those are still downloadable! Watch this video for 2.0:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQdu9LKAdIU
To download the other ones you need to make a folder in the versions folder for minecraft and put the client and JSON file for the versions in there. They all need to be named the same aside from file extensions. Once you do that, you will be able to choose that version when making a new profile with the minecraft launcher.
15w14a is on this link:
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/15w14a
1.RV-Pre1 is here:
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/1.RV-Pre1
Minecraft 3D is here:
https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Java_Edition_3D_Shareware_v1.34
I feel you misunderstood some of it - first off, the file format difference is actually caused by how the game handles block metadata and entities. In order for a JE map to be loaded in BE, there would have to be a conversion process, which would more than likely break quite a few things due also to difference in how certain blocks are handled (redstone mechanics being an excellent example). secondly, I don't see how finding the WMP sandboxing area is that much harder than finding the appdata directory - however I will admit that gaining access into the directory (the one-time process I mentioned earlier) is a bit tricky. And if Microsoft wanted to allow Windows 10 to access and manage a non-sandboxed area, they would have to modify the required permissions of the game, which would certainly put off quite a few users.
Also I assume at the end you meant 'resourcepacks' and not 'mods'. And I disagree that simply enabling 'view all file extensions' is hard at all. See this picture:
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I know that it would be hard to use a JE map in BE. I was simply using that as a reason that JE is better. Because JE has access to a lot more worlds, packs, etc. it is better. And many people are not going to be able to gain access to the file directory at all, due to lower privileges. But everyone can gain access to their own .minecraft folder. But, I do admit that view file extensions was easier than I thought. I did it when my computer still had windows 7 on it (in that version it was harder), and haven't done it since I upgraded my computer. But it could be inconvenient to have on for some people. I don't believe Microsoft would continue to allow people to do this without patching it up in some way, shape or form. It's losing money.
Remember those versions that minecraft pranked us with? Specifically:
Those are still downloadable! Watch this video for 2.0:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQdu9LKAdIU
To download the other ones you need to make a folder in the versions folder for minecraft and put the client and JSON file for the versions in there. They all need to be named the same aside from file extensions. Once you do that, you will be able to choose that version when making a new profile with the minecraft launcher.
15w14a is on this link:
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/15w14a
1.RV-Pre1 is here:
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/1.RV-Pre1
Minecraft 3D is here:
https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Java_Edition_3D_Shareware_v1.34
Before Oct 19, Java was a no-brainer as it included both. Not anymore I am afraid.
IMHO Java gives you tons more freedom but you need a bit of computer savvy to really make it shine. I play MC with Optifine and high res packs and it looks miles better than what Win10 edition delivers. That said if you got friends who play on mobile/xbox via Realms, you want Win10.
One aspect not touched on this thread yet is VR. Win10 solution is quite seamless and polished, you just get the free app at Oculus or Vive store and it hooks into you MC Win10. Java takes a bit extra configuring. You need to install ViveCraft and then you can launch it from SteamVR. Takes some manual tuning but you have a lot more freedom there in terms if controls. Minecraft in VR is one heck of an experience.