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Yeah, I hosted a realm before. It didn't get too far. But I'm back again, I'm older and much wiser, and hopefully, I get my question answered right
Since my other realm didn't get too far in fascination and didn't have much of a player-base, I would want to answer my question with an audience's opinion; You guys!
Should I host a Minecraft "PC" Realm?
I have experience, it's just that, what do I do to make it more interesting and, you know.. fun to Minecraft players?
I have been researching about hackers and stupid griefers on Realm servers, and I know how to deal with them if I ever get a new realm, but what do I do to make the players stay? I noticed that on some realms, they're very unsuccessful and have to shut it down Because Players just leave and never come back. I'm sure that it's on every realm server, but for the realms that have to shut down??? That's a waste of money and time!!
My other question, as you can probably tell is, how do I keep the players satisfied so I, myself don't run into this kind of trouble?
Well, hopefully, my main question and all of my other questions are answered right. I trust you people because some have experience in all of this.
(I apologize if this Thread is in the wrong category, there was no other place to jog all this down.)
If any if not, all could leave some bonus features like suggestions or ideas, etc on how people get custom features on their realm. Maybe even leave some about how to run a successful Realm even. (Every time I look up "How to run a successful Realm," it tells me "How to host a Minecraft Server on your cheap windows laptop." So I can never get proper help.)
Thanks!
Micragoo..
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not 100% sure you a re looking for a realm, as far as i know you must be online and in your realm for players to join it, are you instead looking for a dedicated server?
The Meaning of Life, the Universe, and Everything.
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I do not have a realm yet, I just would like to know how I could keep players interested and stay for a long period of time without getting bored of the realm. My main question is, how can I keep players active on a realm you own?
Nah, I am not looking for a dedicated server. I've noticed that on some threads, they seem to like referring the poster to a server or they suggest buying a server from a hosting company. I'm not interested in statistics, or "why you shouldn't get a Minecraft realm," etc. I got my mind set on a realm. :/
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I do not have a realm yet, I just would like to know how I could keep players interested and stay for a long period of time without getting bored of the realm. My main question is, how can I keep players active on a realm you own?
Nah, I am not looking for a dedicated server. I've noticed that on some threads, they seem to like referring the poster to a server or they suggest buying a server from a hosting company. I'm not interested in statistics, or "why you shouldn't get a Minecraft realm," etc. I got my mind set on a realm. :/
in the case of a realm you must invite every player manually and can't use plugins. if you want to keep players intrested you will need to find something creative to do. you can regularly cycle through adventure maps or minigames or if you want to do a survival build you would have to provide some kind of incentive such as free items or the like
Mostly I simply play with my close and personal friends. When I played on a Realm, they followed me there as that's where I was. When 1.13 snapshots came out, we all wanted to do *THAT* instead, so all of us as a group went to a Java server I also pay for. Sure, it's TINY, 5 people at once max. I don't care, as I'm among my close and personal friends and family. That's where my wife and I play, and that's good enough for me.
THAT is essentially what you are competing against: everyone who wants to be on their own server with their own friends being able to do so. That's going to be a seriously tough market to beat.
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Yes, I am totally okay with manually adding "every" player, excuse my attitude (As if it takes an arm and a leg to add them anyway.) and also I'm aware that I cannot install plugins. Afterall it does ruin the game and makes you just want to quit Minecraft Vanilla. At least, that's what it did to me. I will take your suggestion, "Creativity" though. I agree every long-term player wants something new in their home realm. I don't like minigames though, I'd rather do vanilla survival and add players who also like survival as much as I do onto my realm. I could possibly, add a trading post if I were to make a spawn "for newcomers" by the beach. Just so players could come back and forth with goods for others like Diamonds and other trades etc.
I know Realm servers don't get currency like servers can but, I can improvise by making Iron ingots or golden nuggets currency. Or, if the players want to make there own currency then, I'm okay with that. Do you think you'd agree with my idea of an item shop or trade post? Even so, some realms don't even have a spawn and that's very satisfying for one to have a spawn point full of decorations am I right?
Also, if I may, I have to ask if you know how other realm owners know when a hacker is hacking? I've seen them take action before they're able to acquire diamonds with X-ray vision.
in the case of a realm you must invite every player manually and can't use plugins. if you want to keep players intrested you will need to find something creative to do. you can regularly cycle through adventure maps or minigames or if you want to do a survival build you would have to provide some kind of incentive such as free items or the like
As noted Realms have limits that dont' exist with other options; so long as you ar aware of and fine with these, it isn't at issue for you.
My experience has been that what makes SMP interesting (more so than SSP) is the people on the server.
A server where everyone runs off and does their own thing feels [IMO] like SSP but requires maintaining a connection [several other computers/etc in house likely to be active so bandwidth is a consideration] and doesn't have an ESC-key equivalent [current situation makes nearly all of my playing time subject to interruptions].
What SMP offers that SSP does not is interaction with people. My preference is for cooperative to friendly competition (eg in a gift economy), but the same would be true in PvP [Another human offers far more interesting interaction than can any mob(s).]
Find the right people [waves hand], and a bog-standard vanila survival will work swimmingly.
Determining the wants of the group with which you wish to play and building the server/Realm to spec may well be easier than the reverse.
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@ScotsMiser is spot-on. It will be far easier to make a server for a bunch of friends who all more-or-less have the same wants and expectations of a server, and just want to hang out as friends as a core group.
If you just "start a server, everyone invited" you'll get a ton of people, nobody wanting or expecting the same thing out of it, then leaving after a day or so. Getting that core group of people as a seed is REALLY FREAKIN' HARD unless you start with an already cohesive play-group.
As noted Realms have limits that dont' exist with other options; so long as you ar aware of and fine with these, it isn't at issue for you.
My experience has been that what makes SMP interesting (more so than SSP) is the people on the server.
A server where everyone runs off and does their own thing feels [IMO] like SSP but requires maintaining a connection [several other computers/etc in house likely to be active so bandwidth is a consideration] and doesn't have an ESC-key equivalent [current situation makes nearly all of my playing time subject to interruptions].
What SMP offers that SSP does not is interaction with people. My preference is for cooperative to friendly competition (eg in a gift economy), but the same would be true in PvP [Another human offers far more interesting interaction than can any mob(s).]
Find the right people [waves hand], and a bog-standard vanila survival will work swimmingly.
Determining the wants of the group with which you wish to play and building the server/Realm to spec may well be easier than the reverse.
I agree. Thank you.
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@ScotsMiser is spot-on. It will be far easier to make a server for a bunch of friends who all more-or-less have the same wants and expectations of a server, and just want to hang out as friends as a core group.
If you just "start a server, everyone invited" you'll get a ton of people, nobody wanting or expecting the same thing out of it, then leaving after a day or so. Getting that core group of people as a seed is REALLY FREAKIN' HARD unless you start with an already cohesive play-group.
I agree, sadly. Would you recommend me getting a server? Or getting a realm rather? I mean, it's just, I feel like on a server I'd start cheating because I'd be an operator. But I suppose it can be a stereotype because you could op yourself in a realm server too.
Any suggestions? :/
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You can't /op yourself on a Realms server without turning on cheats. Don't turn on cheats.
I really can't recommend you getting a server or a realm UNLESS YOU find a hole that only YOU can fill, and filling it requires YOU get a server or Realm. If you can't find that hole that needs filling, don't bother. Or get one for a month, play with it, let it lapse as a toy you played with and got bored of. And "getting bored of a toy" is perfectly acceptable. That's what "toys" are for: entertainment. I have a Java server and a Bedrock realm because I'm keeping them small and cheap, and they are for my wife and I as well as a very few close friends to play on. My wife and I are the "star" attractions. Granted, we only attract a VERY small audience, mostly my wife and myself, but that's just fine.
If you are looking for something beyond that, you are going to have to focus on what specific need isn't being filled and what *YOU* are going to do to fill that need... or whatever you plan to do has to compete with everyone else doing pretty much exactly the same thing, and going pretty much exactly the same place: nowhere.
You can't /op yourself on a Realms server without turning on cheats. Don't turn on cheats.
I really can't recommend you getting a server or a realm UNLESS YOU find a hole that only YOU can fill, and filling it requires YOU get a server or Realm. If you can't find that hole that needs filling, don't bother. Or get one for a month, play with it, let it lapse as a toy you played with and got bored of. And "getting bored of a toy" is perfectly acceptable. That's what "toys" are for: entertainment. I have a Java server and a Bedrock realm because I'm keeping them small and cheap, and they are for my wife and I as well as a very few close friends to play on. My wife and I are the "star" attractions. Granted, we only attract a VERY small audience, mostly my wife and myself, but that's just fine.
If you are looking for something beyond that, you are going to have to focus on what specific need isn't being filled and what *YOU* are going to do to fill that need... or whatever you plan to do has to compete with everyone else doing pretty much exactly the same thing, and going pretty much exactly the same place: nowhere.
Life's like this.
Yeah, but Life is not the same thing. It depends on what direction you choose to go. Even if you do fall back in life, you're not exactly going nowhere, you just got to get back up. But thanks for your information it really helped a lot.
~ Micah :/
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This is a java minecraft discussion, buying realms for bedrock when using java would be a total waste of money as they couldn't use the realm
I mean I don't mind actually, I have Bedrock version too. On MC:PE and Windows. Although I don't use it I'm sure I could get started when the time comes.
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My Favorite Bible Verse is Isaiah 12:2: "The Lord, the Lord himself, is my strength and my defense; My salvation."
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not 100% sure you a re looking for a realm, as far as i know you must be online and in your realm for players to join it, are you instead looking for a dedicated server?
I do not have a realm yet, I just would like to know how I could keep players interested and stay for a long period of time without getting bored of the realm. My main question is, how can I keep players active on a realm you own?
Nah, I am not looking for a dedicated server. I've noticed that on some threads, they seem to like referring the poster to a server or they suggest buying a server from a hosting company. I'm not interested in statistics, or "why you shouldn't get a Minecraft realm," etc. I got my mind set on a realm. :/
My Nonprofit Christian Organization on social media, if you like encouragement and more:
FB - Twitter - Instagram: @MicahHDragoo
My Favorite Bible Verse is Isaiah 12:2: "The Lord, the Lord himself, is my strength and my defense; My salvation."
My Discord: Micah H. Dragoo#8902
in the case of a realm you must invite every player manually and can't use plugins. if you want to keep players intrested you will need to find something creative to do. you can regularly cycle through adventure maps or minigames or if you want to do a survival build you would have to provide some kind of incentive such as free items or the like
Mostly I simply play with my close and personal friends. When I played on a Realm, they followed me there as that's where I was. When 1.13 snapshots came out, we all wanted to do *THAT* instead, so all of us as a group went to a Java server I also pay for. Sure, it's TINY, 5 people at once max. I don't care, as I'm among my close and personal friends and family. That's where my wife and I play, and that's good enough for me.
THAT is essentially what you are competing against: everyone who wants to be on their own server with their own friends being able to do so. That's going to be a seriously tough market to beat.
Yes, I am totally okay with manually adding "every" player, excuse my attitude (As if it takes an arm and a leg to add them anyway.) and also I'm aware that I cannot install plugins. Afterall it does ruin the game and makes you just want to quit Minecraft Vanilla. At least, that's what it did to me. I will take your suggestion, "Creativity" though. I agree every long-term player wants something new in their home realm. I don't like minigames though, I'd rather do vanilla survival and add players who also like survival as much as I do onto my realm. I could possibly, add a trading post if I were to make a spawn "for newcomers" by the beach. Just so players could come back and forth with goods for others like Diamonds and other trades etc.
I know Realm servers don't get currency like servers can but, I can improvise by making Iron ingots or golden nuggets currency. Or, if the players want to make there own currency then, I'm okay with that. Do you think you'd agree with my idea of an item shop or trade post? Even so, some realms don't even have a spawn and that's very satisfying for one to have a spawn point full of decorations am I right?
Also, if I may, I have to ask if you know how other realm owners know when a hacker is hacking? I've seen them take action before they're able to acquire diamonds with X-ray vision.
Thank you for your suggestion by the way.
~ Micragoo
My Nonprofit Christian Organization on social media, if you like encouragement and more:
FB - Twitter - Instagram: @MicahHDragoo
My Favorite Bible Verse is Isaiah 12:2: "The Lord, the Lord himself, is my strength and my defense; My salvation."
My Discord: Micah H. Dragoo#8902
As noted Realms have limits that dont' exist with other options; so long as you ar aware of and fine with these, it isn't at issue for you.
My experience has been that what makes SMP interesting (more so than SSP) is the people on the server.
A server where everyone runs off and does their own thing feels [IMO] like SSP but requires maintaining a connection [several other computers/etc in house likely to be active so bandwidth is a consideration] and doesn't have an ESC-key equivalent [current situation makes nearly all of my playing time subject to interruptions].
What SMP offers that SSP does not is interaction with people. My preference is for cooperative to friendly competition (eg in a gift economy), but the same would be true in PvP [Another human offers far more interesting interaction than can any mob(s).]
Find the right people [waves hand], and a bog-standard vanila survival will work swimmingly.
Determining the wants of the group with which you wish to play and building the server/Realm to spec may well be easier than the reverse.
@ScotsMiser is spot-on. It will be far easier to make a server for a bunch of friends who all more-or-less have the same wants and expectations of a server, and just want to hang out as friends as a core group.
If you just "start a server, everyone invited" you'll get a ton of people, nobody wanting or expecting the same thing out of it, then leaving after a day or so. Getting that core group of people as a seed is REALLY FREAKIN' HARD unless you start with an already cohesive play-group.
I agree. Thank you.
My Nonprofit Christian Organization on social media, if you like encouragement and more:
FB - Twitter - Instagram: @MicahHDragoo
My Favorite Bible Verse is Isaiah 12:2: "The Lord, the Lord himself, is my strength and my defense; My salvation."
My Discord: Micah H. Dragoo#8902
I agree, sadly. Would you recommend me getting a server? Or getting a realm rather? I mean, it's just, I feel like on a server I'd start cheating because I'd be an operator. But I suppose it can be a stereotype because you could op yourself in a realm server too.
Any suggestions? :/
My Nonprofit Christian Organization on social media, if you like encouragement and more:
FB - Twitter - Instagram: @MicahHDragoo
My Favorite Bible Verse is Isaiah 12:2: "The Lord, the Lord himself, is my strength and my defense; My salvation."
My Discord: Micah H. Dragoo#8902
You can't /op yourself on a Realms server without turning on cheats. Don't turn on cheats.
I really can't recommend you getting a server or a realm UNLESS YOU find a hole that only YOU can fill, and filling it requires YOU get a server or Realm. If you can't find that hole that needs filling, don't bother. Or get one for a month, play with it, let it lapse as a toy you played with and got bored of. And "getting bored of a toy" is perfectly acceptable. That's what "toys" are for: entertainment. I have a Java server and a Bedrock realm because I'm keeping them small and cheap, and they are for my wife and I as well as a very few close friends to play on. My wife and I are the "star" attractions. Granted, we only attract a VERY small audience, mostly my wife and myself, but that's just fine.
If you are looking for something beyond that, you are going to have to focus on what specific need isn't being filled and what *YOU* are going to do to fill that need... or whatever you plan to do has to compete with everyone else doing pretty much exactly the same thing, and going pretty much exactly the same place: nowhere.
Life's like this.
Yeah, but Life is not the same thing. It depends on what direction you choose to go. Even if you do fall back in life, you're not exactly going nowhere, you just got to get back up. But thanks for your information it really helped a lot.
~ Micah :/
My Nonprofit Christian Organization on social media, if you like encouragement and more:
FB - Twitter - Instagram: @MicahHDragoo
My Favorite Bible Verse is Isaiah 12:2: "The Lord, the Lord himself, is my strength and my defense; My salvation."
My Discord: Micah H. Dragoo#8902
The life of employment is, find a need and fill it... For Cash, but that is a different topic of discussion.
I think in Bedrock , Realms are better. If you want it not like a server not minigames purchase Bedrock Realms
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I don't really understand man. Do you mind to explain yourself? Thanks.
I mean I don't mind actually, I have Bedrock version too. On MC:PE and Windows. Although I don't use it I'm sure I could get started when the time comes.
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