The fact that you had to download an Xray hack to use on a server should tell you that it's not acceptable to use on servers. If a server wanted to allow hacks or mods, they'd be installed on the server.
And even on modded servers where there are digiminers and jetpacks to use to accomplish the same things as these hacks, it's still cheating since those things require actual effort to obtain and you're circumventing that. This is true even in servers that have "Mining World" dimensions that reset every month or so and no harm is technically being done in them since it's still circumventing the effort required to do it legit.
*Note: no anger is behind these words, CAPITAL letters, are for emphasis only.
I work 40 hours per week and at the end X amount of money is deposited into my bank account.
You work 0 hours per week and at the end X amount of money is deposited into your bank account
Afterwards, I spend my money on rent, bills, food, and stuff, but run out, I must wait till Monday, work another 40 hours and get my X money at the end of the week to buy more.
You on the other hand, spend your money on rent, bills, food and stuff, run out, "cheat" more money into your bank account and go get more stuff.
Long term effects: supply goes down, prices go up, yet you keep increasing your money to meet the inflation and buy the stuff you want. I on the other hand still get X amount of money, and can no longer afford the "stuff", eventually no longer can afford the food, then eventually can't afford the bills, then lastly can't afford rent. My money that I work for now is worthless because you're basically magicking money out of nowhere.
This is analogous to how resources on a server work. People work hard putting time and effort into gathering resources, they make their buildings, make armor, food, and random stuff, but then you come along and skip the work, skip the time and effort, and THAT! is the problem. You flood the system with rare resources, making everyone else's rare resources effectively useless. And because they can't keep up with the rate at which you can acquire resources they are unable to barter and trade because no one is willing to accept less from them, than the amount they can get from you.
Remember that people play Minecraft, in most cases, to have fun in a persistent world with others who are like minded. That "Time and Effort" they put into things in Minecraft is REAL LIFE time and effort, so when you come along and somehow have the diamonds to pay for an item from a shop that they've been saving up for, over many Real Life days to buy, and now that item is no longer available because you spent 5 minutes cheating to get the same amount of diamonds, YOU'VE wasted their real life time. YOU'VE stolen time from them. Of course THEY could go get the X-Ray mod and do the same but, then the next person has to do the same to keep up, eventually the whole server has to have the X-Ray mod to do anything, but at this point it either comes down to, "might as well play creative" or the competition to grab the resources become the sole driving force of everyone on the server, and quite frankly those servers don't last long unless the resources are replaced.
I'm not saying that you specifically are the type of person that over mines and floods the market with rare resources causing this sort of thing, but the average cheater (I say cheater because hacker is soo the wrong word for this) is. One cheater can ruin a server's economy, which can easily cause people to not want to play, lowering the population of the server, thus making the server owner's real life money put into the server, a waste.
So before you say that you're not hurting anyone with your actions, realize that though your immediate actions may not hurt anyone, the long term effects of your actions, the repercussions, aren't always what you expect. And because people have seen the repercussions of cheaters' actions, THAT is where the hate comes from.
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Eventually, someone will, utterly by accident, click my reputation up.
*Note: no anger is behind these words, CAPITAL letters, are for emphasis only.
I work 40 hours per week and at the end X amount of money is deposited into my bank account.
You work 0 hours per week and at the end X amount of money is deposited into your bank account
Afterwards, I spend my money on rent, bills, food, and stuff, but run out, I must wait till Monday, work another 40 hours and get my X money at the end of the week to buy more.
You on the other hand, spend your money on rent, bills, food and stuff, run out, "cheat" more money into your bank account and go get more stuff.
Long term effects: supply goes down, prices go up, yet you keep increasing your money to meet the inflation and buy the stuff you want. I on the other hand still get X amount of money, and can no longer afford the "stuff", eventually no longer can afford the food, then eventually can't afford the bills, then lastly can't afford rent. My money that I work for now is worthless because you're basically magicking money out of nowhere.
This is analogous to how resources on a server work. People work hard putting time and effort into gathering resources, they make their buildings, make armor, food, and random stuff, but then you come along and skip the work, skip the time and effort, and THAT! is the problem. You flood the system with rare resources, making everyone else's rare resources effectively useless. And because they can't keep up with the rate at which you can acquire resources they are unable to barter and trade because no one is willing to accept less from them, than the amount they can get from you.
Remember that people play Minecraft, in most cases, to have fun in a persistent world with others who are like minded. That "Time and Effort" they put into things in Minecraft is REAL LIFE time and effort, so when you come along and somehow have the diamonds to pay for an item from a shop that they've been saving up for, over many Real Life days to buy, and now that item is no longer available because you spent 5 minutes cheating to get the same amount of diamonds, YOU'VE wasted their real life time. YOU'VE stolen time from them. Of course THEY could go get the X-Ray mod and do the same but, then the next person has to do the same to keep up, eventually the whole server has to have the X-Ray mod to do anything, but at this point it either comes down to, "might as well play creative" or the competition to grab the resources become the sole driving force of everyone on the server, and quite frankly those servers don't last long unless the resources are replaced.
I'm not saying that you specifically are the type of person that over mines and floods the market with rare resources causing this sort of thing, but the average cheater (I say cheater because hacker is soo the wrong word for this) is. One cheater can ruin a server's economy, which can easily cause people to not want to play, lowering the population of the server, thus making the server owner's real life money put into the server, a waste.
So before you say that you're not hurting anyone with your actions, realize that though your immediate actions may not hurt anyone, the long term effects of your actions, the repercussions, aren't always what you expect. And because people have seen the repercussions of cheaters' actions, THAT is where the hate comes from.
*Note: no anger is behind these words, CAPITAL letters, are for emphasis only.
I work 40 hours per week and at the end X amount of money is deposited into my bank account.
You work 0 hours per week and at the end X amount of money is deposited into your bank account
Afterwards, I spend my money on rent, bills, food, and stuff, but run out, I must wait till Monday, work another 40 hours and get my X money at the end of the week to buy more.
You on the other hand, spend your money on rent, bills, food and stuff, run out, "cheat" more money into your bank account and go get more stuff.
Long term effects: supply goes down, prices go up, yet you keep increasing your money to meet the inflation and buy the stuff you want. I on the other hand still get X amount of money, and can no longer afford the "stuff", eventually no longer can afford the food, then eventually can't afford the bills, then lastly can't afford rent. My money that I work for now is worthless because you're basically magicking money out of nowhere.
This is analogous to how resources on a server work. People work hard putting time and effort into gathering resources, they make their buildings, make armor, food, and random stuff, but then you come along and skip the work, skip the time and effort, and THAT! is the problem. You flood the system with rare resources, making everyone else's rare resources effectively useless. And because they can't keep up with the rate at which you can acquire resources they are unable to barter and trade because no one is willing to accept less from them, than the amount they can get from you.
Remember that people play Minecraft, in most cases, to have fun in a persistent world with others who are like minded. That "Time and Effort" they put into things in Minecraft is REAL LIFE time and effort, so when you come along and somehow have the diamonds to pay for an item from a shop that they've been saving up for, over many Real Life days to buy, and now that item is no longer available because you spent 5 minutes cheating to get the same amount of diamonds, YOU'VE wasted their real life time. YOU'VE stolen time from them. Of course THEY could go get the X-Ray mod and do the same but, then the next person has to do the same to keep up, eventually the whole server has to have the X-Ray mod to do anything, but at this point it either comes down to, "might as well play creative" or the competition to grab the resources become the sole driving force of everyone on the server, and quite frankly those servers don't last long unless the resources are replaced.
I'm not saying that you specifically are the type of person that over mines and floods the market with rare resources causing this sort of thing, but the average cheater (I say cheater because hacker is soo the wrong word for this) is. One cheater can ruin a server's economy, which can easily cause people to not want to play, lowering the population of the server, thus making the server owner's real life money put into the server, a waste.
So before you say that you're not hurting anyone with your actions, realize that though your immediate actions may not hurt anyone, the long term effects of your actions, the repercussions, aren't always what you expect. And because people have seen the repercussions of cheaters' actions, THAT is where the hate comes from.
*Note: no anger is behind these words, CAPITAL letters, are for emphasis only.
I work 40 hours per week and at the end X amount of money is deposited into my bank account.
You work 0 hours per week and at the end X amount of money is deposited into your bank account
Afterwards, I spend my money on rent, bills, food, and stuff, but run out, I must wait till Monday, work another 40 hours and get my X money at the end of the week to buy more.
You on the other hand, spend your money on rent, bills, food and stuff, run out, "cheat" more money into your bank account and go get more stuff.
Long term effects: supply goes down, prices go up, yet you keep increasing your money to meet the inflation and buy the stuff you want. I on the other hand still get X amount of money, and can no longer afford the "stuff", eventually no longer can afford the food, then eventually can't afford the bills, then lastly can't afford rent. My money that I work for now is worthless because you're basically magicking money out of nowhere.
This is analogous to how resources on a server work. People work hard putting time and effort into gathering resources, they make their buildings, make armor, food, and random stuff, but then you come along and skip the work, skip the time and effort, and THAT! is the problem. You flood the system with rare resources, making everyone else's rare resources effectively useless. And because they can't keep up with the rate at which you can acquire resources they are unable to barter and trade because no one is willing to accept less from them, than the amount they can get from you.
Remember that people play Minecraft, in most cases, to have fun in a persistent world with others who are like minded. That "Time and Effort" they put into things in Minecraft is REAL LIFE time and effort, so when you come along and somehow have the diamonds to pay for an item from a shop that they've been saving up for, over many Real Life days to buy, and now that item is no longer available because you spent 5 minutes cheating to get the same amount of diamonds, YOU'VE wasted their real life time. YOU'VE stolen time from them. Of course THEY could go get the X-Ray mod and do the same but, then the next person has to do the same to keep up, eventually the whole server has to have the X-Ray mod to do anything, but at this point it either comes down to, "might as well play creative" or the competition to grab the resources become the sole driving force of everyone on the server, and quite frankly those servers don't last long unless the resources are replaced.
I'm not saying that you specifically are the type of person that over mines and floods the market with rare resources causing this sort of thing, but the average cheater (I say cheater because hacker is soo the wrong word for this) is. One cheater can ruin a server's economy, which can easily cause people to not want to play, lowering the population of the server, thus making the server owner's real life money put into the server, a waste.
So before you say that you're not hurting anyone with your actions, realize that though your immediate actions may not hurt anyone, the long term effects of your actions, the repercussions, aren't always what you expect. And because people have seen the repercussions of cheaters' actions, THAT is where the hate comes from.
Somebody, I'm not even joking when I say this. Give this guy a minecraft cape please, this is probably the most reasonable random man I have ever seen in any gaming community/forum. +1 Faith in people
*Note: no anger is behind these words, CAPITAL letters, are for emphasis only.
I work 40 hours per week and at the end X amount of money is deposited into my bank account.
You work 0 hours per week and at the end X amount of money is deposited into your bank account
Afterwards, I spend my money on rent, bills, food, and stuff, but run out, I must wait till Monday, work another 40 hours and get my X money at the end of the week to buy more.
You on the other hand, spend your money on rent, bills, food and stuff, run out, "cheat" more money into your bank account and go get more stuff.
Long term effects: supply goes down, prices go up, yet you keep increasing your money to meet the inflation and buy the stuff you want. I on the other hand still get X amount of money, and can no longer afford the "stuff", eventually no longer can afford the food, then eventually can't afford the bills, then lastly can't afford rent. My money that I work for now is worthless because you're basically magicking money out of nowhere.
This is analogous to how resources on a server work. People work hard putting time and effort into gathering resources, they make their buildings, make armor, food, and random stuff, but then you come along and skip the work, skip the time and effort, and THAT! is the problem. You flood the system with rare resources, making everyone else's rare resources effectively useless. And because they can't keep up with the rate at which you can acquire resources they are unable to barter and trade because no one is willing to accept less from them, than the amount they can get from you.
Remember that people play Minecraft, in most cases, to have fun in a persistent world with others who are like minded. That "Time and Effort" they put into things in Minecraft is REAL LIFE time and effort, so when you come along and somehow have the diamonds to pay for an item from a shop that they've been saving up for, over many Real Life days to buy, and now that item is no longer available because you spent 5 minutes cheating to get the same amount of diamonds, YOU'VE wasted their real life time. YOU'VE stolen time from them. Of course THEY could go get the X-Ray mod and do the same but, then the next person has to do the same to keep up, eventually the whole server has to have the X-Ray mod to do anything, but at this point it either comes down to, "might as well play creative" or the competition to grab the resources become the sole driving force of everyone on the server, and quite frankly those servers don't last long unless the resources are replaced.
I'm not saying that you specifically are the type of person that over mines and floods the market with rare resources causing this sort of thing, but the average cheater (I say cheater because hacker is soo the wrong word for this) is. One cheater can ruin a server's economy, which can easily cause people to not want to play, lowering the population of the server, thus making the server owner's real life money put into the server, a waste.
So before you say that you're not hurting anyone with your actions, realize that though your immediate actions may not hurt anyone, the long term effects of your actions, the repercussions, aren't always what you expect. And because people have seen the repercussions of cheaters' actions, THAT is where the hate comes from.
I don't even... well, the other guy's right, you need a cape and a ticket to MineCon. I do realize how unfair it is, but only a simpleton would give out his wealth for the other players. Nah, kidding, but I realize what I did, I just don't feel bad, people see how unfair it is, but they have a reason to, they'd love to get XRay and dive into the ores, while at the top of the tower, watching over the people that are working hard.
Eventually, everyone wins, every person that was once a peasant in the eyes of us, will achieve their goals, we all naturally want to become successful... we also want to take shortcuts. And it's easy to do so, but you can never take away the effort of hard work and discipline and sacrifice. People can sit there, using their precious time, but everyone eventually will survive, everyone will live, and everyone will do so, once again, until it happens all again.
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A God that holds you over the pit of Hell, much as one holds a spider or some loathsome insect over the fire, abhors you, and is dreadfully provoked. - Jonathan Edwards
I used it alot, and I remember back when I was using it, a friend, we were as close as brothers, banned me with no hesitation when he found me XRaying, I then used fly and Xray in 1.7, and stopped when 1.8 ended. I never hurt anyone, I was only benefitting myself, usually people find hackers worse than griefers and killers. I just wondered why? I am actually a Moderator on a server, and stopped using this due to responsibility, but I never knew why.
How would you like it if you were struggling to survive in your tiny dirt hut, and another person is effortlessly pwning the world and living in his huge diamond castle?
Two words: Unfair Advantage. (also known as CHEATING)
Because it's cheating. It's not fair if some people use X-Ray or fly hacks and others don't. Unless a server specifically allows hacking, which I haven't heard of.
I quit an SMP server because they allowed hacks (a while back).
And an multiplayer server I have been on, allowed hacks. When the owner and admins were caught using hacks.
And even on modded servers where there are digiminers and jetpacks to use to accomplish the same things as these hacks, it's still cheating since those things require actual effort to obtain and you're circumventing that. This is true even in servers that have "Mining World" dimensions that reset every month or so and no harm is technically being done in them since it's still circumventing the effort required to do it legit.
I work 40 hours per week and at the end X amount of money is deposited into my bank account.
You work 0 hours per week and at the end X amount of money is deposited into your bank account
Afterwards, I spend my money on rent, bills, food, and stuff, but run out, I must wait till Monday, work another 40 hours and get my X money at the end of the week to buy more.
You on the other hand, spend your money on rent, bills, food and stuff, run out, "cheat" more money into your bank account and go get more stuff.
Long term effects: supply goes down, prices go up, yet you keep increasing your money to meet the inflation and buy the stuff you want. I on the other hand still get X amount of money, and can no longer afford the "stuff", eventually no longer can afford the food, then eventually can't afford the bills, then lastly can't afford rent. My money that I work for now is worthless because you're basically magicking money out of nowhere.
This is analogous to how resources on a server work. People work hard putting time and effort into gathering resources, they make their buildings, make armor, food, and random stuff, but then you come along and skip the work, skip the time and effort, and THAT! is the problem. You flood the system with rare resources, making everyone else's rare resources effectively useless. And because they can't keep up with the rate at which you can acquire resources they are unable to barter and trade because no one is willing to accept less from them, than the amount they can get from you.
Remember that people play Minecraft, in most cases, to have fun in a persistent world with others who are like minded. That "Time and Effort" they put into things in Minecraft is REAL LIFE time and effort, so when you come along and somehow have the diamonds to pay for an item from a shop that they've been saving up for, over many Real Life days to buy, and now that item is no longer available because you spent 5 minutes cheating to get the same amount of diamonds, YOU'VE wasted their real life time. YOU'VE stolen time from them. Of course THEY could go get the X-Ray mod and do the same but, then the next person has to do the same to keep up, eventually the whole server has to have the X-Ray mod to do anything, but at this point it either comes down to, "might as well play creative" or the competition to grab the resources become the sole driving force of everyone on the server, and quite frankly those servers don't last long unless the resources are replaced.
I'm not saying that you specifically are the type of person that over mines and floods the market with rare resources causing this sort of thing, but the average cheater (I say cheater because hacker is soo the wrong word for this) is. One cheater can ruin a server's economy, which can easily cause people to not want to play, lowering the population of the server, thus making the server owner's real life money put into the server, a waste.
So before you say that you're not hurting anyone with your actions, realize that though your immediate actions may not hurt anyone, the long term effects of your actions, the repercussions, aren't always what you expect. And because people have seen the repercussions of cheaters' actions, THAT is where the hate comes from.
*Claps*
Nice to see you guys again.
Sir, You Have Completely Earned My Respect.
Somebody, I'm not even joking when I say this. Give this guy a minecraft cape please, this is probably the most reasonable random man I have ever seen in any gaming community/forum. +1 Faith in people
I don't even... well, the other guy's right, you need a cape and a ticket to MineCon. I do realize how unfair it is, but only a simpleton would give out his wealth for the other players. Nah, kidding, but I realize what I did, I just don't feel bad, people see how unfair it is, but they have a reason to, they'd love to get XRay and dive into the ores, while at the top of the tower, watching over the people that are working hard.
Eventually, everyone wins, every person that was once a peasant in the eyes of us, will achieve their goals, we all naturally want to become successful... we also want to take shortcuts. And it's easy to do so, but you can never take away the effort of hard work and discipline and sacrifice. People can sit there, using their precious time, but everyone eventually will survive, everyone will live, and everyone will do so, once again, until it happens all again.
A God that holds you over the pit of Hell, much as one holds a spider or some loathsome insect over the fire, abhors you, and is dreadfully provoked. - Jonathan Edwards
How would you like it if you were struggling to survive in your tiny dirt hut, and another person is effortlessly pwning the world and living in his huge diamond castle?
Two words: Unfair Advantage. (also known as CHEATING)
I quit an SMP server because they allowed hacks (a while back).
And an multiplayer server I have been on, allowed hacks. When the owner and admins were caught using hacks.
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