That is not a valid analogy. Looking at someone's work isn't stealing, just like how looking at Minecraft on YouTube isn't stealing. However taking the painting without the owner's permission is considered stealing, and it should be considered the same for Minecraft. You can obviously watch someone play Minecraft or "see Minecraft" without pirating.
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im a cracked user and im willing to buy it as soon as i can but currently i cant due to some life issues :/
im also against cracked users who can buy it.
That is not a valid analogy. Looking at someone's work isn't stealing, just like how looking at Minecraft on YouTube isn't stealing. However taking the painting without the owner's permission is considered stealing, and it should be considered the same for Minecraft. You can obviously watch someone play Minecraft or "see Minecraft" without pirating.
I would say it's your comparison that is incorrect. Reading a book is consuming it's content for your own usage. Playing Minecraft is consuming it's content for your own usage. If I watch you play Minecraft, that's akin to me watching you read Gone with the Wind. I didn't get to consume it, I just watched you consume it.
If I borrow your copy of Gone with the Wind and read it, did I steal? What if you rent me Gone with the Wind and I read it? What if you read it to me? What if you read it to the patrons in your Pizza place? What if you read it and I write it down? There's always a huge range of grey area.
You've said that looking at someone's work isn't stealing. When you looked at my painting, you didn't pay to see it in my gallery. So you robbed me of that potential income. That makes your actions thievery.
You can spin any of it either way. There's no real right or wrong here, there's just opinion and arbitrary current law that changes with time, place and social whims.
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People who intentionally desecrate a language are no different than griefers who tear things down because they are too immature and undisciplined to create, so instead they destroy out of jealousy.
I would say it's your comparison that is incorrect. Reading a book is consuming it's content for your own usage. Playing Minecraft is consuming it's content for your own usage. If I watch you play Minecraft, that's akin to me watching you read Gone with the Wind. I didn't get to consume it, I just watched you consume it.
If I borrow your copy of Gone with the Wind and read it, did I steal? What if you rent me Gone with the Wind and I read it?
You've said that looking at someone's work isn't stealing. When you looked at my painting, you didn't pay to see it in my gallery. So you robbed me of that potential income. That makes your actions thievery.
You can spin any of it either way. There's no real right or wrong here, there's just opinion and arbitrary current law.
You're talking about borrowing. "Renting" and pirating are two different things.
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I used to have it (Only for about a month *cough* *cough*) and there were some pretty nice people that actually made servers for cracked players. To find one nowadays is rare but to be honest, i know that some parents of children who want minecraft wouldn't make a account without a use for one so it depends on the current person's personal problems. I only got it because i couldn't afford it, didn't have a legit email,and before there was a demo (I think)
Mojang can't really do anything about cracked users - there will always be some, and targeting them will be expensive and unnecessary. Even if they did get rid of cracked players, most crack because they can't afford the real deal. So Mojang is at a loss of money either way. Of course it's illegal, but there's really not much to be done about it.
They don't bother us, and have stay on offline 'ghetto' versions of the game. Even though there's a demo, the demo doesn't give a good feel of all the minecraft features, since it's a limited world and confined to SinglePlayer. Youtube videos do NOT give a good idea of a game. They may to some people who are easily convinced of something, but someone like me who is wary of most things, would not trust a youtube video for the source of an opinion.
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Well I completely avoid cracked servers. In all fairness I was once a cracked player too but this was back in Alpha and I ended up buying the game shortly after when it was still Alpha. But of course I think the way 'cracked" works now compared to back then is different. I mean back then I could only join a server through hamachi or something but these days there seems to be a ton of cracked servers that anyone can join which is obviously bad. Because cracked players wont take the game seriously since it isn't their account so they **** off other players and grief and troll because it's not like they have an account to lose.
If I rent out my Minecraft account would you call that stealing?
Read. The. EULA. It says right in there that your cannot make money off of the game. The EULA is law. It went through and it says you are not allowed to sell copies(Premium Accounts). It's OK to share an account with maybe your brother, but not to sell it to him.
If you cant pay 30 bucks for a game, then you shouldn't be allowed to play it.
A simple way to figure out whether you like it or not:
Watch a few videos?
You don't need to crack to 'test' if you like it or not.
Or what, are you gonna do that with all games?
That's my opinion.
I disagree,
>"If you cant pay 30 bucks for a game, then you shouldn't be allowed to play it."
Why not? If you are dirt poor, and are going to be too poor to spend extra money on a pc game, then pirating it until you have money to spend is really not that bad. Now if you come across money and wish to support the dev by buying the game when you have cash, then theres nothing bad about it. One more thing to keep in mind, some areas of this world dont have certain acess to parts of the web to legitly buy the game, some due to blocks on certain sites, or a lack of ways to pay online for items. Pirating is the only way those areas are ever going to experience those games, and it does help as word of mouth and posts online spread it like advertising for others to buy the game.
One could even argue a kid in China who's net is blocked from notch's site can pirate minecraft, and make a youtube video of them playing the game, then others could see this game and buy it themselves from watching that video. Which in turns helps sales of the game. There is good things in pirating games.
>"A simple way to figure out whether you like it or not:Watch a few videos?"
That really doesnt help a lot of people due to certain games, some games you need to try out and text for yourself to see if you like it, things like clunky controls and delays in key pressing can not be seen or experienced in a video. I say you need to play a game for a short while before seeing if its for you or not.
>"You don't need to crack to 'test' if you like it or not."
I again disagree, some games do not have demos for you to try out yourself, so playing a pirated copy is a legit way to see if you would work on your pc, how the fps is, to see if there are any game breaking bugs etc. Yes there are demos but some demos either dont have the full game so your pc can handle the demo but when the real game comes along your pc cant handle it, theres no way in testing that. Some demos like the MC one are timed, which is a not really a good way to see if you can like the game or not, due to the time limit you never get too far in the mid game to even figure out if theres more than just mining blocks. I think a temp map with a un-timed demo would be better for this, that way players can experience a bit of everything of the game in the demo, but then again pirating the game allows you all the time you need to see if the game is for you.
>Or what, are you gonna do that with all games?
I am a pirate, I pirate games to test if I like the game, to test if the game works, or has any bugs in it, etc. So I suggest anyone who is unsure if they should spend money on a game before buying it blindly that they should pirate it first, and if they like the game then pay for a legit copy of the game. Pirating isnt that bad for these reasons.
Read. The. EULA. It says right in there that your cannot make money off of the game. The EULA is law. It went through and it says you are not allowed to sell copies(Premium Accounts). It's OK to share an account with maybe your brother, but not to sell it to him.
Good God man, is this supposed to be funny? You took my quote so far out of context even I can't recognize it. You don't need to be so patronizing when you're not even on the same topic.
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im also against cracked users who can buy it.
I would say it's your comparison that is incorrect. Reading a book is consuming it's content for your own usage. Playing Minecraft is consuming it's content for your own usage. If I watch you play Minecraft, that's akin to me watching you read Gone with the Wind. I didn't get to consume it, I just watched you consume it.
If I borrow your copy of Gone with the Wind and read it, did I steal? What if you rent me Gone with the Wind and I read it? What if you read it to me? What if you read it to the patrons in your Pizza place? What if you read it and I write it down? There's always a huge range of grey area.
You've said that looking at someone's work isn't stealing. When you looked at my painting, you didn't pay to see it in my gallery. So you robbed me of that potential income. That makes your actions thievery.
You can spin any of it either way. There's no real right or wrong here, there's just opinion and arbitrary current law that changes with time, place and social whims.
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People who intentionally desecrate a language are no different than griefers who tear things down because they are too immature and undisciplined to create, so instead they destroy out of jealousy.
You're talking about borrowing. "Renting" and pirating are two different things.
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Curse PremiumA simple way to figure out whether you like it or not:
Watch a few videos?
You don't need to crack to 'test' if you like it or not.
Or what, are you gonna do that with all games?
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Curse PremiumMojang can't really do anything about cracked users - there will always be some, and targeting them will be expensive and unnecessary. Even if they did get rid of cracked players, most crack because they can't afford the real deal. So Mojang is at a loss of money either way. Of course it's illegal, but there's really not much to be done about it.
They don't bother us, and have stay on offline 'ghetto' versions of the game. Even though there's a demo, the demo doesn't give a good feel of all the minecraft features, since it's a limited world and confined to SinglePlayer. Youtube videos do NOT give a good idea of a game. They may to some people who are easily convinced of something, but someone like me who is wary of most things, would not trust a youtube video for the source of an opinion.
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So yeah that's why I hate cracked players.
Read. The. EULA. It says right in there that your cannot make money off of the game. The EULA is law. It went through and it says you are not allowed to sell copies(Premium Accounts). It's OK to share an account with maybe your brother, but not to sell it to him.
Nice to see you guys again.
I disagree,
>"If you cant pay 30 bucks for a game, then you shouldn't be allowed to play it."
Why not? If you are dirt poor, and are going to be too poor to spend extra money on a pc game, then pirating it until you have money to spend is really not that bad. Now if you come across money and wish to support the dev by buying the game when you have cash, then theres nothing bad about it. One more thing to keep in mind, some areas of this world dont have certain acess to parts of the web to legitly buy the game, some due to blocks on certain sites, or a lack of ways to pay online for items. Pirating is the only way those areas are ever going to experience those games, and it does help as word of mouth and posts online spread it like advertising for others to buy the game.
One could even argue a kid in China who's net is blocked from notch's site can pirate minecraft, and make a youtube video of them playing the game, then others could see this game and buy it themselves from watching that video. Which in turns helps sales of the game. There is good things in pirating games.
>"A simple way to figure out whether you like it or not:Watch a few videos?"
That really doesnt help a lot of people due to certain games, some games you need to try out and text for yourself to see if you like it, things like clunky controls and delays in key pressing can not be seen or experienced in a video. I say you need to play a game for a short while before seeing if its for you or not.
>"You don't need to crack to 'test' if you like it or not."
I again disagree, some games do not have demos for you to try out yourself, so playing a pirated copy is a legit way to see if you would work on your pc, how the fps is, to see if there are any game breaking bugs etc. Yes there are demos but some demos either dont have the full game so your pc can handle the demo but when the real game comes along your pc cant handle it, theres no way in testing that. Some demos like the MC one are timed, which is a not really a good way to see if you can like the game or not, due to the time limit you never get too far in the mid game to even figure out if theres more than just mining blocks. I think a temp map with a un-timed demo would be better for this, that way players can experience a bit of everything of the game in the demo, but then again pirating the game allows you all the time you need to see if the game is for you.
>Or what, are you gonna do that with all games?
I am a pirate, I pirate games to test if I like the game, to test if the game works, or has any bugs in it, etc. So I suggest anyone who is unsure if they should spend money on a game before buying it blindly that they should pirate it first, and if they like the game then pay for a legit copy of the game. Pirating isnt that bad for these reasons.
Good God man, is this supposed to be funny? You took my quote so far out of context even I can't recognize it. You don't need to be so patronizing when you're not even on the same topic.
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Agreed.
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Although you are breaking a law by "cracking" the game, they won't chase you down just to get their 27 dollars.
I dislike people who crack games. But I can't control what you do :P.