"Life is not equal so Mojang shouldn't try to enforce it" - Albert Einstein
Are you high? In what world would Albert Einstein give a damn about a video game decades after his death. If anything that would apply better to the server owners crying foul play. It's Mojangs game, unless they decide to make it open source, they can do what they want with it.
Realms was successful before the EULA was even brought about. The only reason people complain is because their favorite server will fail to succeed. Donators seem to also be very upset, but what do you expect? They donated to gain something. Though some people just don't understand what the definition of an donation means. If those big servers can't thrive to survive then they did not deserve their place in the multiplayer community in the first place.
Are you high? In what world would Albert Einstein give a damn about a video game decades after his death. If anything that would apply better to the server owners crying foul play. It's Mojangs game, unless they decide to make it open source, they can do what they want with it.
Actually he did say that. Here is the quote with a picture of the quote next to a picture of Einstein, therefore, by the laws of the internet, it is true.
Realms was successful before the EULA was even brought about. The only reason people complain is because their favorite server will fail to succeed. Donators seem to also be very upset, but what do you expect? They donated to gain something. Though some people just don't understand what the definition of an donation means. If those big servers can't thrive to survive then they did not deserve their place in the multiplayer community in the first place.
But isn't that the problem. What is the upside to destroying people's favorite servers? I can understand them saying you can't restrict access to gameplay features, but things like if a server creates a currency that can be earned through mini games, or bought with cash. Nobody is playing minecraft anymore for the new snapshots, bunnys? Those have been around due to mods for years. The only reason people play minecraft is for the mods, minigames, and community. Why change your EULA in a way that will harm all three? Honestly its a move I'd expect a company like.. EA to do. It shows a shocking level of arrogance on Mojangs part
But isn't that the problem. What is the upside to destroying people's favorite servers? I can understand them saying you can't restrict access to gameplay features, but things like if a server creates a currency that can be earned through mini games, or bought with cash. Nobody is playing minecraft anymore for the new snapshots, bunnys? Those have been around due to mods for years. The only reason people play minecraft is for the mods, minigames, and community. Why change your EULA in a way that will harm all three? Honestly its a move I'd expect a company like.. EA to do. It shows a shocking level of arrogance on Mojangs part
Realms was successful before the EULA was even brought about. The only reason people complain is because their favorite server will fail to succeed. Donators seem to also be very upset, but what do you expect? They donated to gain something. Though some people just don't understand what the definition of an donation means. If those big servers can't thrive to survive then they did not deserve their place in the multiplayer community in the first place.
The only reason people play minecraft is for the mods, minigames, and community. Why change your EULA in a way that will harm all three?
You're absolutely right, Mojang should just keep the current EULA, you know, the one that forbids all commercial use of their software. This is something so many of the posters in this thread just don't seem to get, the current EULA forbids servers making any money at all. Mojang is being nice by relaxing the EULA to allow servers to make money rather than going after all these servers currently breaking the EULA.
I sincerely, can't wait till august 1st. That means the popular server mineplex will have to give donator kits to regular players. This is the best thing ever!
This is awesome! Take that sterling!
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I sincerely, can't wait till august 1st. That means the popular server mineplex will have to give donator kits to regular players. This is the best thing ever!
This is awesome! Take that sterling!
Ehmm ... no , this isn't what the EULA is doing , and even if it DID exist to regular players than he might give it to players for 1 year only , beta testers of the server ... etc , not everyone that just entered the server will have donator ranks .
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You're absolutely right, Mojang should just keep the current EULA, you know, the one that forbids all commercial use of their software. This is something so many of the posters in this thread just don't seem to get, the current EULA forbids servers making any money at all. Mojang is being nice by relaxing the EULA to allow servers to make money rather than going after all these servers currently breaking the EULA.
Or maybe Mojang should have just never made minecraft? Since instead of actually responding to what I said you've chosen to go to all or nothing route as if that's actually a valid argument.
Their options aren't either leave it or change it in the way they did, they have an unlimited number of ways to change the EULA to respect and allow the minecraft community and the servers people enjoy to continue to thrive.
Saying their options were to go after them for breaking the original EULA or change it in a way that threatens to shut these servers down is again using EA as an example like when SimCity came out and they wanted everyone to play online, and their original compromise was "well you just have to check it online every few minutes.. so if you lose concetion for a short while.. you're ok. That.. ok, but that didn't address the big complaint which was people didn't want to be forced to play online. And EA went from a respect gaming company to the butt of jokes, and "worst company of the year" because when you crap on your customers, its never a good thing.
Mojang had an unlimited number of ways in which they could have respected the community which has built up around their game, and they chose not to. Saying "it could be worse" doesn't change that fact, and we'll see what happens going forward.
I think the solution should be that you can still donate to servers but it doesn't give you in-game advantages maybe like minecon tickets,minecraft merchandise or whatever.But think about this people spend time and effort into making servers surely they cant do for free??
I do agree with some points as some servers donations packs are simply at ridiculous prices and the kits given are unfair to other players,also players should have to pay for the game aswell additional prices.
I have seen a few people referring to the new EULA limiting mods, servers, and the community. However, this is not the case.
With Minecraft modifications, there are few things that a mod requires that cost the mod authors money. Forge, Eclipse, some modeling software (Techne, Blender, etc.), some image editing software, such as Paint (highly limited) or Gimp (simple to use, powerful enough to easily make 16x16 textures), etc. The only thing that could potentially cost a mod author money is if their mod uses a central server to store some data, which is rarely needed.
Servers, however, are actually benefited legally by the new EULA. Remember that this new EULA actually makes server monetizing legal in certain ways. Any server that is good enough that players wish to donate, in the definition of the word:
do·nate
verb \ˈdō-ˌnāt, dō-ˈ\
: to give (money, food, clothes, etc.) in order to help a person or organization
from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/donate, will be able to survive and thrive. Other servers, which can only maintain costs by selling kits or items, not by the charity of people, will not.
The community, since it is highly based on human opinion, will be less predictable, so we will have to see over time if it decreases or increases in quality. However, most non-donors who play on servers, especially those who cannot afford to donate, have and will be quite happy about this. As of August 1st, everyone will have access to all kits and items!
I have seen a few people referring to the new EULA limiting mods, servers, and the community. However, this is not the case.
With Minecraft modifications, there are few things that a mod requires that cost the mod authors money. Forge, Eclipse, some modeling software (Techne, Blender, etc.), some image editing software, such as Paint (highly limited) or Gimp (simple to use, powerful enough to easily make 16x16 textures), etc. The only thing that could potentially cost a mod author money is if their mod uses a central server to store some data, which is rarely needed.
Servers, however, are actually benefited legally by the new EULA. Remember that this new EULA actually makes server monetizing legal in certain ways. Any server that is good enough that players wish to donate, in the definition of the word:
do·nate
verb \ˈdō-ˌnāt, dō-ˈ\
: to give (money, food, clothes, etc.) in order to help a person or organization
from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/donate, will be able to survive and thrive. Other servers, which can only maintain costs by selling kits or items, not by the charity of people, will not.
The community, since it is highly based on human opinion, will be less predictable, so we will have to see over time if it decreases or increases in quality. However, most non-donors who play on servers, especially those who cannot afford to donate, have and will be quite happy about this. As of August 1st, everyone will have access to all kits and items!
Are you high? In what world would Albert Einstein give a damn about a video game decades after his death. If anything that would apply better to the server owners crying foul play. It's Mojangs game, unless they decide to make it open source, they can do what they want with it.
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Actually he did say that. Here is the quote with a picture of the quote next to a picture of Einstein, therefore, by the laws of the internet, it is true.
Do you take everything seriously? He was obviously joking ._.
But isn't that the problem. What is the upside to destroying people's favorite servers? I can understand them saying you can't restrict access to gameplay features, but things like if a server creates a currency that can be earned through mini games, or bought with cash. Nobody is playing minecraft anymore for the new snapshots, bunnys? Those have been around due to mods for years. The only reason people play minecraft is for the mods, minigames, and community. Why change your EULA in a way that will harm all three? Honestly its a move I'd expect a company like.. EA to do. It shows a shocking level of arrogance on Mojangs part
Well said.
Are you the official community ambassador?
You're absolutely right, Mojang should just keep the current EULA, you know, the one that forbids all commercial use of their software. This is something so many of the posters in this thread just don't seem to get, the current EULA forbids servers making any money at all. Mojang is being nice by relaxing the EULA to allow servers to make money rather than going after all these servers currently breaking the EULA.
This is awesome! Take that sterling!
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-xbox-360-edition/mcx360-suggestions/2163353-skin-editor-read-before-commenting#c14
Ehmm ... no , this isn't what the EULA is doing , and even if it DID exist to regular players than he might give it to players for 1 year only , beta testers of the server ... etc , not everyone that just entered the server will have donator ranks .
Or maybe Mojang should have just never made minecraft? Since instead of actually responding to what I said you've chosen to go to all or nothing route as if that's actually a valid argument.
Their options aren't either leave it or change it in the way they did, they have an unlimited number of ways to change the EULA to respect and allow the minecraft community and the servers people enjoy to continue to thrive.
Saying their options were to go after them for breaking the original EULA or change it in a way that threatens to shut these servers down is again using EA as an example like when SimCity came out and they wanted everyone to play online, and their original compromise was "well you just have to check it online every few minutes.. so if you lose concetion for a short while.. you're ok. That.. ok, but that didn't address the big complaint which was people didn't want to be forced to play online. And EA went from a respect gaming company to the butt of jokes, and "worst company of the year" because when you crap on your customers, its never a good thing.
Mojang had an unlimited number of ways in which they could have respected the community which has built up around their game, and they chose not to. Saying "it could be worse" doesn't change that fact, and we'll see what happens going forward.
-Mojang passes EULA
-Servers get slowed down on money
-Not able to keep up on costs
-Servers go down
-Angry players
-Players quit
-Minecraft slows down
-Dies.
-EULA changes back to the happy MC dayz
-Comes back up
-Happy players and mojang
So you're saying we SHOULD pay ridiculous prices?
With Minecraft modifications, there are few things that a mod requires that cost the mod authors money. Forge, Eclipse, some modeling software (Techne, Blender, etc.), some image editing software, such as Paint (highly limited) or Gimp (simple to use, powerful enough to easily make 16x16 textures), etc. The only thing that could potentially cost a mod author money is if their mod uses a central server to store some data, which is rarely needed.
Servers, however, are actually benefited legally by the new EULA. Remember that this new EULA actually makes server monetizing legal in certain ways. Any server that is good enough that players wish to donate, in the definition of the word:
do·nate
verb \ˈdō-ˌnāt, dō-ˈ\: to give (money, food, clothes, etc.) in order to help a person or organization
from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/donate, will be able to survive and thrive. Other servers, which can only maintain costs by selling kits or items, not by the charity of people, will not.
The community, since it is highly based on human opinion, will be less predictable, so we will have to see over time if it decreases or increases in quality. However, most non-donors who play on servers, especially those who cannot afford to donate, have and will be quite happy about this. As of August 1st, everyone will have access to all kits and items!
*slow claps* Well done.
Oh. Oops.