1-It shows they don't want the game enough to actually buy it.
2-It's illegal!
3-Mojang doesn't get any of the money.
4-If they say "Their parents won't let them get it" or something similar, then they should just not GET IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
1-It shows they don't want the game enough to actually buy it.
2-It's illegal!
3-Mojang doesn't get any of the money.
4-If they say "Their parents won't let them get it" or something similar, then they should just not GET IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
1. That's not true. People pirate for lots of reasons. Ubisoft and Electronic Arts often incorporate harmful and destructive DRM into their products that people dislike (and rightfully so), thus pirate the games to be free of such invasive scripts.
2. Lots of things are illegal. I can't eat an orange in a bathtub in California. Stupid? Yes. Illegal in the books? Yes. People loiter, smoke too close to doorways & windows, jaywalk and steal Wifi from their neighbor. I don't see you harping about that.
3. You're entirely correct. However, your argument is flawed. If someone pirates a game, they never* intended to pay for it in the first place. Mojang is not out product (As the game is not distributed), nor are they out money. That money was never* going to be given to them in the first place. You can't say that you're out money for a birthday gift card I was never going to give you. Same concept.
4. This is probably the most logical part to your "argument" (complaining?) While I can agree that "If you can't afford it, you don't need it**", you seem to forget that this is the internet. The internet is a powerful tool and with the right know-how you have the ability to be nearly completely anonymous. It's like being in a grocery store with no cameras and no staff -- temptation, and the ability to get away with it.
* Never is subjective. Some people cannot afford at that moment, have difficulties purchasing, or are unable to purchase in their country.
** This too is also subjective, but if one cannot afford food, one still needs food to survive. This does not condone stealing, but is noted just to clarify the point I am making.
Edited for clarity.
Editx2: I'd like to note that I pirated the game for about three-four months before I purchased. Not everyone who pirates remains a pirate. Just throwing that out there, considering I brought seven of my friends along once I purchased.
Just because someone pirates a copy of minecraft, doesn't mean they "don't want it enough to buy the game". I've seen lots of people who pirate it because they simply do not have the money at that time to get it. They end up buying the game later on down the line. While I do agree it may be wrong to pirate the game, most eventually do buy a copy of the game.
Mojang already made more then a hundred million USD from all the purchases, do you really think they need another 20 bucks from a pirate?
With a game like Minecraft they'd likely have not seen as much success if people couldn't just download the game and buy it later. Pirates also bring in all of their friends and some of them will likely buy.
4-If they say "Their parents won't let them get it" or something similar, then they should just not GET IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
That is probably the most gut-wrenching thing I've read today. You know, there isn't that much correlation between the parents' subjective moral values and whether the players objectively deserve it or not.
With a game like Minecraft they'd likely have not seen as much success if people couldn't just download the game and buy it later. Pirates also bring in all of their friends and some of them will likely buy.
There's actually a demo that can be used by non-premium users. So it sort-of makes the "the pirates will pay for it later" argument invalid.
That is probably the most gut-wrenching thing I've read today. You know, there isn't that much correlation between the parents' subjective moral values and whether the players objectively deserve it or not.
There's actually a demo that can be used by non-premium users. So it sort-of makes the "the pirates will pay for it later" argument invalid.
The demo lasts 7 ingame days. That's not the full game.
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1-It shows they don't want the game enough to actually buy it.
2-It's illegal!
3-Mojang doesn't get any of the money.
4-If they say "Their parents won't let them get it" or something similar, then they should just not GET IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
1. Evidence shows this is almost certainly not true. Many people pirate as a sort of "demo", to see if they like it. (Notch has said he is okay whit that.) Or, if they don't have enough money, they pirate, and buy it when they can afford it.
2. Actions are made illegal because they are believed to be immoral. An action's legality or lack thereof is not what decides that action's being immoral.
3. Actually, studies show that people who pirate tend to buy the product later anyway. No lost sale. Or, they pirate it to see if they like it, find that they don't, and don't play it. They would not have bought it anyway. No lost sale. Significant money is not lost to piracy.
4. Not really sure what you meant here. Sort of a valid point.
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1-It shows they don't want the game enough to actually buy it.
2-It's illegal!
3-Mojang doesn't get any of the money.
4-If they say "Their parents won't let them get it" or something similar, then they should just not GET IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
1. I pirated the game at first, and now I've bought the game and recruited many friends to buy the game.
2. So are lots of things.
3. Refer to the answer to number 1.
4. I don't understand what you're saying.
I'll idmit that I may have willfully subjected myself to using a cracked launcher, maybe. IF I did pirate it at first, I bought it a couple weeks later in order to have my own skin, and the ability to play on multiplayer servers. I don't regret maybe pirating it because it gave me a chance to see why i would give my money to such an awesome group of developers and been happy playing it for over a year, legit.
Well I hate to admit it, but I used to be a pirate of Minecraft. BUT, I did NOT want to have to go through not legally owning the game forever. I didn't really know anyone at the time (IRL) who played Minecraft who could possibly buy me a gift code, and I was afraid asking my mom would give me a straight "no", so I had no other option. I did feel bad pirating the game, but back then (Beta 1.8.1), there was no demo for me to try out, except the PC Gamer demo, but it was using version Beta 1.3.
Fortunately, after 4 months of having to be a pirate, a friend finally bought a gift code for me, and my pirating days are over. Now I've felt much better, since I wasn't really supporting Jeb, Notch, or Jon back then.
So the OP can ***** and moan about how he hates people he doesn't know a thing about and how he hates people got someone for free that he paid for so he must be little them in any way possible.
The OP is referring to minors who do not have any way to purchase stuff online. If their parents do not want to buy it, then the OP is implying that they are not supposed to play it for whatever reason (ie. parents don't approve of video games, possible addiction, decreased academic performance, etc.)
Take me for example. I am one of those minors who cannot purchase stuff online. They won't let me have a debit card (due to credit score concerns, WTF), and I can't find any general-use prepaid cards (at Target; maybe Wal-Mart has them). And of course, my mom wouldn't let me have Minecraft (the reason being that she saw that its developers were Swedish and didn't trust foreign games).
So how did I get Minecraft? Simple. I had four of my teeth pulled. It was painful.
I completely disagree. I have only pirated one thing (Scott Pilgrim Volume 1, to be specific), and it was just to see if I was gonna buy the whole series. I did. The boxset. And even now I feel a little guilt.
I think pirating for that reason is fine. Just a little test to see if you like it. Not much different than playing a demo at e3.
The OP needs to do his research and be more open minded. I tend to pirate tons of content, jaywalk and do things that would be considered illegal in text, but absolutely nobody but some diehard crazies give any ****s about it.
2-It's illegal!
3-Mojang doesn't get any of the money.
4-If they say "Their parents won't let them get it" or something similar, then they should just not GET IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
1. That's not true. People pirate for lots of reasons. Ubisoft and Electronic Arts often incorporate harmful and destructive DRM into their products that people dislike (and rightfully so), thus pirate the games to be free of such invasive scripts.
2. Lots of things are illegal. I can't eat an orange in a bathtub in California. Stupid? Yes. Illegal in the books? Yes. People loiter, smoke too close to doorways & windows, jaywalk and steal Wifi from their neighbor. I don't see you harping about that.
3. You're entirely correct. However, your argument is flawed. If someone pirates a game, they never* intended to pay for it in the first place. Mojang is not out product (As the game is not distributed), nor are they out money. That money was never* going to be given to them in the first place. You can't say that you're out money for a birthday gift card I was never going to give you. Same concept.
4. This is probably the most logical part to your "argument" (complaining?) While I can agree that "If you can't afford it, you don't need it**", you seem to forget that this is the internet. The internet is a powerful tool and with the right know-how you have the ability to be nearly completely anonymous. It's like being in a grocery store with no cameras and no staff -- temptation, and the ability to get away with it.
* Never is subjective. Some people cannot afford at that moment, have difficulties purchasing, or are unable to purchase in their country.
** This too is also subjective, but if one cannot afford food, one still needs food to survive. This does not condone stealing, but is noted just to clarify the point I am making.
Edited for clarity.
Editx2: I'd like to note that I pirated the game for about three-four months before I purchased. Not everyone who pirates remains a pirate. Just throwing that out there, considering I brought seven of my friends along once I purchased.
And we're not here to read about what You hate. I.don't.care.
Mojang already made more then a hundred million USD from all the purchases, do you really think they need another 20 bucks from a pirate?
With a game like Minecraft they'd likely have not seen as much success if people couldn't just download the game and buy it later. Pirates also bring in all of their friends and some of them will likely buy.
That is probably the most gut-wrenching thing I've read today. You know, there isn't that much correlation between the parents' subjective moral values and whether the players objectively deserve it or not.
There's actually a demo that can be used by non-premium users. So it sort-of makes the "the pirates will pay for it later" argument invalid.
The demo lasts 7 ingame days. That's not the full game.
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1. Evidence shows this is almost certainly not true. Many people pirate as a sort of "demo", to see if they like it. (Notch has said he is okay whit that.) Or, if they don't have enough money, they pirate, and buy it when they can afford it.
2. Actions are made illegal because they are believed to be immoral. An action's legality or lack thereof is not what decides that action's being immoral.
3. Actually, studies show that people who pirate tend to buy the product later anyway. No lost sale. Or, they pirate it to see if they like it, find that they don't, and don't play it. They would not have bought it anyway. No lost sale. Significant money is not lost to piracy.
4. Not really sure what you meant here. Sort of a valid point.
Usually your posts are good, but that added nothing to the convorsation.
Anyway, back to OP.
1. I pirated the game at first, and now I've bought the game and recruited many friends to buy the game.
2. So are lots of things.
3. Refer to the answer to number 1.
4. I don't understand what you're saying.
Fortunately, after 4 months of having to be a pirate, a friend finally bought a gift code for me, and my pirating days are over. Now I've felt much better, since I wasn't really supporting Jeb, Notch, or Jon back then.
The OP is referring to minors who do not have any way to purchase stuff online. If their parents do not want to buy it, then the OP is implying that they are not supposed to play it for whatever reason (ie. parents don't approve of video games, possible addiction, decreased academic performance, etc.)
Take me for example. I am one of those minors who cannot purchase stuff online. They won't let me have a debit card (due to credit score concerns, WTF), and I can't find any general-use prepaid cards (at Target; maybe Wal-Mart has them). And of course, my mom wouldn't let me have Minecraft (the reason being that she saw that its developers were Swedish and didn't trust foreign games).
So how did I get Minecraft? Simple. I had four of my teeth pulled. It was painful.
I think pirating for that reason is fine. Just a little test to see if you like it. Not much different than playing a demo at e3.
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Classic is far too outdated to see if you like it or not.