Okay, some people are going to hate me for this but here it goes :
I changed my skin to a warrior and I'm getting harassed less and less. So I'm going to leave this thread alone, but still post like 3 times a week. Here are my responses to the type of haters on the thread : "Your too young for MC, no matter how mature you are." - Guys, I think you should just mind your own business about how old do you have to be to play MC. I mean, I think it's around 10 +. "Give up, this is never going to work" - It won't work to convince the entire internet. But it might start getting owners of servers to make a rule against sexual harassment. "This is stupid." - "One man's trash may be another man's treasure." "Lock the thread, make me a samvich, go back to the kitchen, etc." - Leave the thread alone please, if you don't like, don't post. "Find a more mature server." - I want to stick with the servers I want. Don't say "Oh you should find a more mature server", it's filling up these 25 pages. "Your a troll" - I'm not trolling"
Everyone : "IGNORE THEM." - How can you ignore boys who are squatting all around and following you creepily and sending creepy messages?
i hate it when there's big scenes about boy gamers vs girl gamers. like seriously? does it honestly really matter? i think everyone just needs to forget about it and just treat gamers like...gamers. is that really so hard?
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I do admit this is an issue, i have strict rules against this on my server, but it goes both ways... so i think you should be a bit more aware of both sides and call it ROS Rights On Servers, because really, women and men should have equal rights...
I can't believe this thread is still going, and becoming very Orwellian at that. Women have no more rights on any server than a man does, and that's equality. In fact, women have no more rights on the internet than men do. You can't just tip the scales one way because a minority of one group are dissatisfied, life doesn't work that way. You fix the root of the problem (i.e; Announcing your gender to people on the internet) rather than try to change everyone else to suit you.
That and children of the OP's age shouldn't be left unsupervised on the internet anyway, no matter how mature they claim to be.
This, also i didn't know what "Orwellian" meant . I google'd it now i do thank you :D.
Everyone : "IGNORE THEM." - How can you ignore boys who are squatting all around and following you creepily and sending creepy messages?
How to deal with creepy kids on servers, by Pandema.
First, check if PvP is enabled on your server. If yes, stab the little bugger to death. If No, light him on fire or pour lava on him. Take his things, incinerate them (except for the goodies like diamonds!) and tell him to leave you the hell alone.
Second, if they're sending messages. DON'T. LOOK. AT. THE. CHAT.
You're welcome.
I'ma go play EvE now. Maybe check back and post again at some point.
Okay, some people are going to hate me for this but here it goes :
I changed my skin to a warrior and I'm getting harassed less and less. So I'm going to leave this thread alone, but still post like 3 times a week. Here are my responses to the type of haters on the thread : -snip- "Find a more mature server." - I want to stick with the servers I want. Don't say "Oh you should find a more mature server", it's filling up these 25 pages.
Then you're an idiot. You're bringing it on yourself by staying there. For instance, if a black guy went to a KKK gathering, he's an idiot. Now, if they come to his front yard, and burn a cross, he has the right to complain, and call the police. But going to places that you know fully well are full of stupid, sexist, players, then you're asking for it. Yes, they are in the wrong still, but you're not helping your case if you keep going to the place full of those people who are in the wrong.
Depending where in the world the actual server is located, women's rights are different.
You aren't required or forced to play on servers with these issues
General human rights cover this sort of thing, if sexual harassment in an online environment is a problem, it's something you report to the publishers of the game where they can handle the situation. If they do not, it is possible to file sexual harassment suits against the offenders.
You cannot force privately owned Minecraft servers to obey by specific rules because they have the basic right to do whatever they wish in their own environment. You are not required, forced to or responsible to play on servers with people who demean, hit on or sexualize women. If you have an issue with someone on a server, you report it to the server owner. If they refuse to do anything about it, you cannot do anything on it if it is not a paid service or a public service. Since most all servers are not public [including those without a password] are not hosted by anyone who is going to care if the admin won't do anything about it in the first place.
While I agree women get the short end of the stick in an online environment, this entire thread seems entirely silly. Seems more like a witch-hunt by the self-righteous to force their views on other people.
Well then i must be to cynical for this topic.
We are all shouting in a wall that cannot answer.
I don't believe sexual harassment over videogames.
I believe people are retarded, and most of those sexual offenders are just kids either trying to attract attention with immature jokes, either discovering themselves with some online fantasy.
they may be too immature to understand what sexual harassment is, but it still counts as harassment i think, different from the usual "trash talk"
I believe this a is a part in the process of growing up.
Sadly, a tiny part of these kids, male or female, are going to be sexually violent persons.
There are mostly around all countries preventions and security systems with their own efficiency against that.
That's the world we live in, people can get somewhat ****ed up.
I think the girls here in this thread should be glad that they are actually facing growing up kids over internet than facing the real deviant person which is going to hurt her.
kind of mixed feelings about this, it is reality, but i don't like it, and that's what i'm trying to help change, even if i barely make a difference, if i can get one person thinking about it a bit deeper than he currently does, i'll count it as a victory.
This is a process that i believe is not going to change anytime soon, kids be kids, rapists be rapists.
I was grown up in this way of life, be optimistic, ignore the internet creeper, life could be worse !
maybe not anytime soon, but hopefully it will change.
It's really wrong to get blind over this fact, internet is a weird place but anonymous and kind of secure.
Its the parents' job to avoid little girls and boys to get bullied/bully on the interwebs.
But really, this cause isn't even a cause compared to the real problems in the world.
*Real* feminists could be ashamed because of this post.
but it's a cause nonetheless, i don't think it matters if it's smaller compared to others in the real world.
OT: the intelligence of this thread seems to be picking up.
On the server I have been a member of for over 2 years we allow people of any gender, and strive to prevent and stop sexual harassment.
You guys are free to check us out if you like. Our website is http://www.Cowpi-gaming.com and our Minecraft ip is mc.cowpi-gaming.com
You don't need to stand the harassment, we treat females the same way as males, and actually encourage females on the server just so we don't seem like to much of a male's server. (But really, we don't allow sexual harassment at all.)
You're right. The sandwiches WON'T make themselves. You will, jerk. In case you hadn't noticed, this is the 21st century, which means the women don't sit around knitting all day. So unless you have a time machine, i suggest you change your attitude about female gamers.
i don't know what's worse, the fact that he probably thinks that's funny, or that he got a +1 for that.
eh, it'll get deleted soon, and he'll get a warning for flaming or whatever.
You know, once I was on this new server and I said I was a girl and they treated me like a queen/king. I didn't know this was a problem.
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I went on a server today; Just cause I was a girl I was ignored like "don't worry lets just talk about boobs and being bored that we can't help any one" ._.
blind eyed?
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I went on a server today; Just cause I was a girl I was ignored like "don't worry lets just talk about boobs and being bored that we can't help any one" ._.
I didn't have a man skin. Nor did I have a woman skin. It was a Rubik cube (by the war, I'm a boy).
Hmm...I seriously haven't been on any sexist server yet.
I didn't have a man skin. Nor did I have a woman skin. It was a Rubik cube (by the war, I'm a boy).
Hmm...I seriously haven't been on any sexist server yet.
Being a teenage boy myself, i may say this so called online discrimination is not necessarily due to gender ignorance alone. Males are not merely retards who insults girls simply because they are stupid. The 'bullies' you people are talking of are mostly those immature male kids that dont have any sence of tolerance.
All I meant to say is that all males arent bullies, so stop being too pathetic about this, just stay alert of 'them' and report them to the admin. when harrased.
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This poor fly needs a lovely hand to take care. Sadly, 90% simply ignore this
Being a teenage boy myself, i may say this so called online discrimination is not necessarily due to gender ignorance alone. Males are not merely retards who insults girls simply because they are stupid. The 'bullies' you people are talking of are mostly those immature male kids that dont have any sence of tolerance.
All I meant to say is that all males arent bullies, so stop being too pathetic about this, just stay alert of 'them' and report them to the admin. when harrased.
Your reply came off extremely angry. While I posted before saying why I find this thread itself to be extremely silly, truth be told more often than not, men of all ages online can be extremely ignorant and otherwise sexual towards people they expect to be women. I did a study for this in my grade 10 Psychology class, which was when I was 15 [23 now], and I even spent a month doing a fake female impersonation online. The comments, remarks and general attitude shown towards women varies extremely from caring to overly sexual.
However, from what I recall, the majority of guys who act overly sexual towards girls are generally between the ages of 18-24. Kids below that are either often to timid to voice a sexual opinion of a girl because they think in their narrow minds they have a "chance" with her or they just don't care. This isn't to say teenage boys don't act like this, but the majority of womanising does tend to come from people of an age where they generally are out of the stage of naive ignorance and into a more "adult" stage where ignorance hasn't so much stayed naive, but more of less grown into an actual rendition of how women are treated.
I still say this entire thread is nothing but a witch-hunt to burn womanisers by a group of self-righteous men and women who think they are above everyone else. This isn't so much of an issue as something that is extremely easy to deal with: Don't play servers with people who act like this. It's not rocket science. It's an extremely easy thing to do, and if you're willing to subject yourself to this sort of thing because you like your server, you have absolutely zero reason or even validity to complain about it.
To people suggesting "not announcing your gender on the Internet" as the solution to avoid sexist behaviours: are you familiar with the concept of victim-blaming? And with the fact that it's wrong? And possibly about the fact that if you honestly believe this is the solution, you are part of the problem?
I've played TF2 with some of my friends, who happen to be adult women, and as soon as they opened their mouths (to say useful things too! "Look out, there's a spy as a demoman heading for the intel room!" "Double Heavy-Medic squad in the sewers"), they were told to shut up because HURR WOMEN ONLINE HURR SANDWICHES. Sometimes by adult men, too! No "they're stupid children" excuse there! Besides, typing is not an option: typing that instead of saying it would leave the player vulnerable to, say, that same spy who's just dying to lodge a knife between their shoulderblades while they're busy writing.
So basically, it'd do people online (especially men, who do not face that kind of behaviour offline as well) some good to educate themselves to those issues. Sitting there trying to ignore them will not make them disappear, and even if efforts seem futile, they'll be fruitful in the long run.
I agree that being treated like a queen because you're a woman is bad as well. It's either patronising ("You clearly need my help because you're a weak woman who needs protection, whereas I am a big man hurr") or some kind of stupid attempt to get laid with a Nice GuyTM behaviour.
Who's Gatling btw?
Just a guy who joined around page ten and gets a bit too hot headed.
Six bloody pages and people are still coming up with new ways to justice sexually harrassment of children.
The creativity of certain people in certain settings is just amazing.
I would just like to point out that pretty much all your posts in this thread have no valid reasoning behind them and you simply say that something is not right or that it shouldn't happen without explaining. The internet is the internet. It's a beast. It cannot be stopped. It cannot be controlled. Everything can be bypassed. There is no way to stop anything on the internet. Posting this thread has probably already made hundreds of trolls find something to use. And even if it was deleted, the trolls have seen it. Trolls take examples from other trolls, so this thread has probably actually caused a lot more of this to happen.
I would just like to point out that pretty much all your posts in this thread have no valid reasoning behind them and you simply say that something is not right or that it shouldn't happen without explaining. The internet is the internet. It's a beast. It cannot be stopped. It cannot be controlled. Everything can be bypassed. There is no way to stop anything on the internet. Posting this thread has probably already made hundreds of trolls find something to use. And even if it was deleted, the trolls have seen it. Trolls take examples from other trolls, so this thread has probably actually caused a lot more of this to happen.
I haven't seen someone troll with intentions that "convincing". Besides, why'd the OP have the nerve to respond to replies? (I bets trolls won't even try) Well, she might be a smart troll, but being too serious about age and such I don't really think so.
Either way IMO those trolls you are reffering to are probably sexual harassers/discriminators who want to find excuses/justify their actions from other well-intentioned people (including those who are against it), but no troll is a pure Karma Houdini.
Other than what I mentioned, got any idea how'd they use it?
I changed my skin to a warrior and I'm getting harassed less and less. So I'm going to leave this thread alone, but still post like 3 times a week. Here are my responses to the type of haters on the thread :
"Your too young for MC, no matter how mature you are." - Guys, I think you should just mind your own business about how old do you have to be to play MC. I mean, I think it's around 10 +.
"Give up, this is never going to work" - It won't work to convince the entire internet. But it might start getting owners of servers to make a rule against sexual harassment.
"This is stupid." - "One man's trash may be another man's treasure."
"Lock the thread, make me a samvich, go back to the kitchen, etc." - Leave the thread alone please, if you don't like, don't post.
"Find a more mature server." - I want to stick with the servers I want. Don't say "Oh you should find a more mature server", it's filling up these 25 pages.
"Your a troll" - I'm not trolling"
Everyone : "IGNORE THEM." - How can you ignore boys who are squatting all around and following you creepily and sending creepy messages?
Thank you for your time.
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This, also i didn't know what "Orwellian" meant . I google'd it now i do thank you :D.
How to deal with creepy kids on servers, by Pandema.
First, check if PvP is enabled on your server. If yes, stab the little bugger to death. If No, light him on fire or pour lava on him. Take his things, incinerate them (except for the goodies like diamonds!) and tell him to leave you the hell alone.
Second, if they're sending messages. DON'T. LOOK. AT. THE. CHAT.
You're welcome.
I'ma go play EvE now. Maybe check back and post again at some point.
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Curse PremiumThen you're an idiot. You're bringing it on yourself by staying there. For instance, if a black guy went to a KKK gathering, he's an idiot. Now, if they come to his front yard, and burn a cross, he has the right to complain, and call the police. But going to places that you know fully well are full of stupid, sexist, players, then you're asking for it. Yes, they are in the wrong still, but you're not helping your case if you keep going to the place full of those people who are in the wrong.
...but that's just like, my opinion, man.
While I agree women get the short end of the stick in an online environment, this entire thread seems entirely silly. Seems more like a witch-hunt by the self-righteous to force their views on other people.
kind of mixed feelings about this, it is reality, but i don't like it, and that's what i'm trying to help change, even if i barely make a difference, if i can get one person thinking about it a bit deeper than he currently does, i'll count it as a victory.
maybe not anytime soon, but hopefully it will change.
but it's a cause nonetheless, i don't think it matters if it's smaller compared to others in the real world.
OT: the intelligence of this thread seems to be picking up.
Edit: spoke too soon
You guys are free to check us out if you like. Our website is http://www.Cowpi-gaming.com and our Minecraft ip is mc.cowpi-gaming.com
You don't need to stand the harassment, we treat females the same way as males, and actually encourage females on the server just so we don't seem like to much of a male's server. (But really, we don't allow sexual harassment at all.)
http://clients.aim2game.com/aff.php?aff=041
eh, it'll get deleted soon, and he'll get a warning for flaming or whatever.
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I went on a server today; Just cause I was a girl I was ignored like "don't worry lets just talk about boobs and being bored that we can't help any one" ._.
I didn't have a man skin. Nor did I have a woman skin. It was a Rubik cube (by the war, I'm a boy).
Hmm...I seriously haven't been on any sexist server yet.
Good for you
OT: Stay away immediately if you found one.
Keep on derpin'
All I meant to say is that all males arent bullies, so stop being too pathetic about this, just stay alert of 'them' and report them to the admin. when harrased.
Sadly, 90% simply ignore this
Your reply came off extremely angry. While I posted before saying why I find this thread itself to be extremely silly, truth be told more often than not, men of all ages online can be extremely ignorant and otherwise sexual towards people they expect to be women. I did a study for this in my grade 10 Psychology class, which was when I was 15 [23 now], and I even spent a month doing a fake female impersonation online. The comments, remarks and general attitude shown towards women varies extremely from caring to overly sexual.
However, from what I recall, the majority of guys who act overly sexual towards girls are generally between the ages of 18-24. Kids below that are either often to timid to voice a sexual opinion of a girl because they think in their narrow minds they have a "chance" with her or they just don't care. This isn't to say teenage boys don't act like this, but the majority of womanising does tend to come from people of an age where they generally are out of the stage of naive ignorance and into a more "adult" stage where ignorance hasn't so much stayed naive, but more of less grown into an actual rendition of how women are treated.
I still say this entire thread is nothing but a witch-hunt to burn womanisers by a group of self-righteous men and women who think they are above everyone else. This isn't so much of an issue as something that is extremely easy to deal with: Don't play servers with people who act like this. It's not rocket science. It's an extremely easy thing to do, and if you're willing to subject yourself to this sort of thing because you like your server, you have absolutely zero reason or even validity to complain about it.
Agreed. Both genders are not equal with these problems.
Gatling will be proud at this.
Keep on derpin'
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Curse PremiumI would just like to point out that pretty much all your posts in this thread have no valid reasoning behind them and you simply say that something is not right or that it shouldn't happen without explaining. The internet is the internet. It's a beast. It cannot be stopped. It cannot be controlled. Everything can be bypassed. There is no way to stop anything on the internet. Posting this thread has probably already made hundreds of trolls find something to use. And even if it was deleted, the trolls have seen it. Trolls take examples from other trolls, so this thread has probably actually caused a lot more of this to happen.
I haven't seen someone troll with intentions that "convincing". Besides, why'd the OP have the nerve to respond to replies? (I bets trolls won't even try) Well, she might be a smart troll, but being too serious about age and such I don't really think so.
Either way IMO those trolls you are reffering to are probably sexual harassers/discriminators who want to find excuses/justify their actions from other well-intentioned people (including those who are against it), but no troll is a pure Karma Houdini.
Other than what I mentioned, got any idea how'd they use it?
Keep on derpin'