You are quite literally demanding that other people don't have fun with the game because it doesn't conform to your standard of "fun". That's unbelievably selfish.
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I have to agree with you OP
When I first started Minecraft in 1.5_1, it was amazing. I had More Creeps and Weirdos with the Single Player Commands mod. Those days were amazing, trying to get a hamster or kill a G.
I don't entirely agree w/ your post. Jeb has done good things. The ssp/smp merge was brilliant! It makes everyones life easier, the bug fixes, and the entire coding can be done in one fell swoop. Now, i dont have the hipster cred that you do, seeing as i have only played since 1.1, BUT I am tired of people complaining about the game. Mojang doesnt have to do these wonderful things for us, they love the community, well at least the 90% of us that dont and moan about every little thing. thats just my dos pennies though.
Minecraft is basically about modding, I think minecraft is hitched on the modding communities back. If modding died, I think minecraft would die. And where have you been the past 3 months? The new Aether, and 1.4.2 have been the anticipation of the worldwide web! So before you lecture Minecraftforum, check the changelog to even see the changes that have happent while you were in your beta bubble.
There are many Minecraft players who have played the game since early stages of development, such as Alpha, and have complained about how the game is in it's modern stages. Take the chap who posted this topic for example. He states that Minecraft was a better game in Alpha stages due to many new features added that change the game in, in his opinion, too many ways. The reason for this common opinion is likely because people, naturally, are not very happy with changes to once-loved things such as Minecraft. Imagine in you will, if your favorite Role-Playing Game was changed into a First-Person Shooter. I bet you would be pretty mad, as well.
This is why I am posting here. To tell the masses that the true reason for this hate toward modern Minecraft is because it has simply changed. Not for better, or for worse. It has simply changed.
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Are you planning to make suggestion? check the search bar first.
This just about sums it up, actually. I'd say we are now at the Broken Base stage (possibly in a Dork Age). Also, careful with those TV Tropes links, you know how they eat time ;).
I've seen topics like this before, and I think you should consider that minecraft changing may not be the only variable that makes you dislike it. As you play games, you tend to get sick of them over time, and perhaps you're starting to let go of Minecraft.
As I final note, I think your notes on the modding API are biased and you might not know what you're talking about. The API is less about making mods, and more about making modding more user and modder friendly. Again, you don't have to download any mods.
This doesn't mean that I'm not playing minecraft anymore. I'm never updating. And many of you should consider this.
My first vision of the game minecraft was amazing. I played and played for what seemed like days. I tried to survive, and even make a diamond block. Minecraft was an amazing game for me. The community was nice, the updates were great, up until now. Ever since _jeb took over the development of minecraft, things are getting bad. The original idea of minecraft has just been flushed down the toilet. Now I do not mean to be a troll with the following sentences. Please don't hate me for saying this, but minecraft is getting to the stage where it practically sucks! The original idea of minecraft was to survive in your own world. You could mine, you could smelt, you could craft, and you could build. Now, minecraft has been taken to a new idea which makes minecraft steal the ideas from terarria. I can't believe the things that _Jeb has done to literally f**k minecraft.
He is adding modding support, which I don't agree to. Minecraft was never about modding, and about a year ago, few would make mods. They would create mods that allowed you to cheat, like TooManyItems (Beta 1.2) and Single Player Commands (A. 1.2.6). Those inventory editor programs became popular with the cheaters of minecraft. Although there have been those mods that just ruin the game, there were some mods that were good (Aether, EvilMinecraft, Tale of Kingdoms, MoCreatures, etc.). Now most of those mods are not even being updated anymore. The best mods were total conversions of minecraft. I don't like _jeb's Idea of being able to make mods. Modding was never a part of minecraft, and never should be one of the main ideas of minecraft. I'm not saying that making minecraft mods is bad, I'm just saying that the modding shouldn't be a big part of minecraft.
Another thing is the adventuring. Minecraft started out as a game where you build and create things. I think that adding the sword and mobs were enough, but notch and _jeb just didn't make the right decisions about minecraft. Now we have to actually beat the game! I don't like having to go on a big journey just to beat the game. Ravines were enough. With all of the new features of minecraft, it seems that notch or _Jeb were hinting a story about minecraft with the features. It makes sense for there to be mysterious wells, NPC villages, isolated strongholds, and even a disk that may have given a hint about Herobrine (The disk named 11) to be part of a story. We don't want any stories about minecraft. Most (like me) just want to stay with the ability to survive, craft, and build. With all of this adventure stuff, I'm not surprised if minecraft suddenly turns into terraria!
One of my last reasons is the multiplayer functions. Now we need a minecraft server to play singleplayer. Sort of like gmod, minecraft server and singleplayer is pretty much the same thing. I don't want this. Believe it or not, with the fact that there is no such thing as singleplayer anymore means that minecraft just took down many mods. Mods like T.M.I and S.P.C or any other mod that counts on the minecraft singleplayer jar is gone. There is no way to make a mod like T.M.I in singleplayer because T.M.I has some functions in the mp version and the sp version. With there being no more singleplayer, the functions will be raped. You can also be disconnected from a SINGLE PLAYER WORLD! That is why I'm never updating minecraft again. If people want to start a protest about minecraft, I will automatically support that.
Now, don't yell at me. Don't flame me. Don't ban me or ridicule me, because I have a point. Minecraft was good from the beginning to 1.2.5. I have a point. Minecraft is at it's final stage of being popular
Somebody said everything was optional. He pointed out three things that definitely weren't optional, and you think this is an answer? It is optional because you can install a mod? His answer is correct. Your reply is nonsense.
Because it's better to complain then finding your own way of having fun. You don't want something, get a way to make it optional. That's how mods work. Just because you're too lazy or self entitled to instal a mod means you can't solve your own problems. Mods are part of Minecraft the same way that DLC is part of other games. Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean it isn't there.
Just because you're too lazy or self entitled to instal a mod means you can't solve your own problems. Mods are part of Minecraft the same way that DLC is part of other games. Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean it isn't there.
No, they are not part of Minecraft. If they were part of Minecraft, they wouldn't be mods.
But maybe you mean that figuratively, like it's part of the Minecraft experience. I can't agree with that either. I'm not dissing mods, but I believe it's only a minority that use them.
And they aren't exactly analogous to DLC, because DLC emanates from the original vendor, not third parties. You may want to expose your computer to viruses, but I don't. Just because most mods are virus-free doesn't mean they all are. I trust Mojang. Others, not so much. I'm a programmer. I know better.
And am I correct in understanding that you're saying that people that don't install mods are lazy and self-entitled? I'd like to hear the tortured logic behind that statement.
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No, they are not part of Minecraft. If they were part of Minecraft, they wouldn't be mods.
But maybe you mean that figuratively, like it's part of the Minecraft experience. I can't agree with that either. I'm not dissing mods, but I believe it's only a minority that use them.
And they aren't exactly analogous to DLC, because DLC emanates from the original vendor, not third parties. You may want to expose your computer to viruses, but I don't. Just because most mods are virus-free doesn't mean they all are. I trust Mojang. Others, not so much. I'm a programmer. I know better.
And am I correct in understanding that you're saying that people that don't install mods are lazy and self-entitled? I'd like to hear the tortured logic behind that statement.
1. I'm saying that they are a needed thing if you don't like what's in Minecraft. They are part of the game, just not required. You can use them for any reason, one main one is because of people not like the game.
2. No, people who don't install maps or mods or [other thing] AND they do not like the current game andjust complain about it and won't take suggestions are just too lazy to solve their problems or think that they shouldn't have to solve their own problems.
I can't even begin to describe how silly this logic is.
Nobody has ever been able to, or will able to, be able to force you to download mods. Your argument about modding ruining Minecraft is completely invalid, because it only affects you if you WANT it to.
The "essence of Minecraft" or whatever you want to call it is whatever Jens or Markus want it to be, that's why they're the developers and you're the player.
Adding adventure features is just like mods - they don't affect your gameplay and you're 100% free to ignore them completely. If you want to be Mr. Steve the builder, ignore the dragon, and live your life in a 100 block radius of spawn, you're perfectly free to do so. None of Minecraft alpha's building capabilities have been trimmed, and if anything the massive influx of new blocks is BETTER for building.
So seriously, stop whining.
EDIT: Just realized that this was started over half a year ago. The point still stands though.
Weird that you say that, cuz I coincidentally started playing Minecraft last December, 1.0.0, full release.
You are quite literally demanding that other people don't have fun with the game because it doesn't conform to your standard of "fun". That's unbelievably selfish.
Health isn't optional.
The game is now ruined.
When I first started Minecraft in 1.5_1, it was amazing. I had More Creeps and Weirdos with the Single Player Commands mod. Those days were amazing, trying to get a hamster or kill a G.
If only I could go back to the good days...
This just about sums it up, actually. I'd say we are now at the Broken Base stage (possibly in a Dork Age). Also, careful with those TV Tropes links, you know how they eat time ;).
I'm not trying to change your opinion though. If you really like the old versions of minecraft, perhaps you'd like to go back to earlier ones. Use this:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/106402-tool-cyborgs-tools-mcnostalgia-104/
It can be used to downgrade to any version of minecraft you want.
As I final note, I think your notes on the modding API are biased and you might not know what you're talking about. The API is less about making mods, and more about making modding more user and modder friendly. Again, you don't have to download any mods.
It's just different.
You still do the same things- build a house, mine for resources, fight off mobs- but merely do them in different ways.
By the logic of some people in this thread, Team Fortress 2 is no longer a first person shooter because it has hats in it.
yes please i vote yes on prop OLD MC
Because it's better to complain then finding your own way of having fun. You don't want something, get a way to make it optional. That's how mods work. Just because you're too lazy or self entitled to instal a mod means you can't solve your own problems. Mods are part of Minecraft the same way that DLC is part of other games. Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean it isn't there.
No, they are not part of Minecraft. If they were part of Minecraft, they wouldn't be mods.
But maybe you mean that figuratively, like it's part of the Minecraft experience. I can't agree with that either. I'm not dissing mods, but I believe it's only a minority that use them.
And they aren't exactly analogous to DLC, because DLC emanates from the original vendor, not third parties. You may want to expose your computer to viruses, but I don't. Just because most mods are virus-free doesn't mean they all are. I trust Mojang. Others, not so much. I'm a programmer. I know better.
And am I correct in understanding that you're saying that people that don't install mods are lazy and self-entitled? I'd like to hear the tortured logic behind that statement.
1. I'm saying that they are a needed thing if you don't like what's in Minecraft. They are part of the game, just not required. You can use them for any reason, one main one is because of people not like the game.
2. No, people who don't install maps or mods or [other thing] AND they do not like the current game and just complain about it and won't take suggestions are just too lazy to solve their problems or think that they shouldn't have to solve their own problems.
EDIT: Just realized that this was started over half a year ago. The point still stands though.