Ah, yes, storage chests! Good idea. From personal experience, I know that for some reason you can only push ~2 carts in a row (beyond that, it gets weird and glitchy), but you could add 2 storage chests and decrease the number of stopovers by maybe 60%. That said, the materials for the stopovers are actually quite miniscule (basically just the portal gates + crafting table/furnace/makeshift shelter, the latter of which I did not factor in).
Lay your rail - and your boosters - as you go. Just put a stoper block (sand, so no tools to un-place it) at the end of the track. Send your carts - ten or fifteen at a time, even - rolling one by one down the track, boosted along to the end by the powered rails. :smile.gif:
Bear in mind I have never been to the Nether myself or made my first Nether portal...but you mentioned taking stuff to mold portals. I thought you couldn't place water in the Nether? Wouldn't you just need to bring Obsidian blocks with you?
Thought I read in the wiki that water placed in the Nether just makes a puff of steam.
Oh shi*, you're right, Nether portal molds only work in the overworld. I guess we'll need some diamond pickaxes after all...something like 65 of them...which actually isn't too bad. Not too many more diamonds to mine with iron tools (pretty much just 3 more iron ore needed to make an extra iron pickaxe to mine the ~200 diamonds needed. Thank goodness for the fact that diamond pickaxes are so durable!
Since I assume that you will be drilling through areas in the nether (as the fastest way to complete this journey is to go in a straight line through all objects) I recommended that you use TNT to blast your way though mountains and what not. Equip Diamond Armor through invedit and max out the HP. You will have more HP than bedrock and will survive the explosions you set off.
Meh, netherrack comes away in one hit anyways. Keep in mind too that this track will be going in a dead-straight line, so sometimes it'll be going through netherrack, and sometimes it will be soaring out in the open over huge lava oceans. (Don't let OSHA get wind of this project!) One's Lshift key would get quite a workout.
I had this thought once; but it's pretty cool to see the numbers crunched as far as logistics go. But aside from all the fancy numbers and what not, good luck on actually building your tunnel in the nether on anything higher than peaceful. I tried doing a small bit of track myself (perhaps 192 lengths of track) in the nether and you'll be amazed at the amount of time wasted on dodging Ghasts. Not only that the Nether became so overwhelmed with Ghasts that my game would literally crash within 5~15 seconds of loading. I had to turn it on peaceful just to get the game going again. TBH, if you do this on peaceful, that would be much, much more of a realistic achievable goal (just imagine the amount of material not needed in this instance).
Soooo, whats different about these "far lands"? perhaps more.... sheep? please do share your reasoning for going to these "far lands" but the overall idea is epic! if you accomplish it for every mile you get :wink.gif:
Far lands? Terrain generation says "screw this, I'm leaving" and you get weird sponge-like solid stone water-filled terrain. Structures are distorted, the lag is immense, and it's more than two million chunks in any direction from your spawn point.
It would be really cool if someone set up a server to do this. With dozens of people working on this it could be feasible. I think theres enough interest in it that people would do this when their bored of their own projects in minecraft. It would also be kinda cool for the community to have a super project to work toward.
Also for people talking about the lag. I don't think the lag is up to server/computer crashing amounts at the beginning of the far lands. Its only when you get to the loop and the stack that it really starts hurting a good computer.
idk, ive been tot he neather, and once you get the hang of it ghasts are a minor problem at most. and once the tunnel gets started ghasts wont even be a problem. and if this ever saw the light of smp, then it would even be easier.
I'm not entirely sure why this isn't a plan to tunnel the Nether to fast travel to the far lands, as opposed to laying a rail line through the tunnel through the Nether. It's not like you are going to commute back and forth to the Far Lands, since when you get to the far lands...
You fall through the world and die. With enough time to record your debug mode to document your position, of course...but a rail line for fast transit back and forth? Are you planning to come back from the Far Lands?
Does anything like Fly mod from Zombe's modpack work at the Far Lands, so at least you could look around? I'm assuming that's what people who make videos there who hacked their location use. Otherwise they'd be busy falling and dying.
I'm not entirely sure why this isn't a plan to tunnel the Nether to fast travel to the far lands, as opposed to laying a rail line through the tunnel through the Nether. It's not like you are going to commute back and forth to the Far Lands, since when you get to the far lands...
You fall through the world and die. With enough time to record your debug mode to document your position, of course...but a rail line for fast transit back and forth? Are you planning to come back from the Far Lands?
Does anything like Fly mod from Zombe's modpack work at the Far Lands, so at least you could look around? I'm assuming that's what people who make videos there who hacked their location use. Otherwise they'd be busy falling and dying.
Theres areas to stand in the far lands at the border between the normal world and the far lands. Its only once you get hundreds of kilometers father into it that blocks become non collision.
I'm not entirely sure why this isn't a plan to tunnel the Nether to fast travel to the far lands, as opposed to laying a rail line through the tunnel through the Nether. It's not like you are going to commute back and forth to the Far Lands, since when you get to the far lands...
You fall through the world and die. With enough time to record your debug mode to document your position, of course...but a rail line for fast transit back and forth? Are you planning to come back from the Far Lands?
Does anything like Fly mod from Zombe's modpack work at the Far Lands, so at least you could look around? I'm assuming that's what people who make videos there who hacked their location use. Otherwise they'd be busy falling and dying.
as above, plus, its not about just getting to the farlands. there are programs you can use to just teleport there, the point of this project is to build a trasist system to get there by the fastest way possible within whats concidered not cheating. since minecarts are the fastest mode of transportation, its why a rainway is to be built. and with as long as it will take them to walk all teh way there you might as well lay the track, because it will take a long long time.
But to build a minetrack to the far lands wouldn't you have to get to the far lands first ? It's a pretty redundant idea :sad.gif:
Kind of what I was thinking, but I guess the idea is to do it the slog way and lay track then use the rails to set the record for fastest non-cheating way. A succession of accomplishments.
Since there is this broad band of sorta-Far-Lands short of complete surface fail, when does one consider oneself to have reached it? When it starts to look weird but you don't fall through?
But to build a minetrack to the far lands wouldn't you have to get to the far lands first ? It's a pretty redundant idea :sad.gif:
Kind of what I was thinking, but I guess the idea is to do it the slog way and lay track then use the rails to set the record for fastest non-cheating way. A succession of accomplishments.
Since there is this broad band of sorta-Far-Lands short of complete surface fail, when does one consider oneself to have reached it? When it starts to look weird but you don't fall through?
But to build a minetrack to the far lands wouldn't you have to get to the far lands first ? It's a pretty redundant idea :sad.gif:
Kind of what I was thinking, but I guess the idea is to do it the slog way and lay track then use the rails to set the record for fastest non-cheating way. A succession of accomplishments.
Since there is this broad band of sorta-Far-Lands short of complete surface fail, when does one consider oneself to have reached it? When it starts to look weird but you don't fall through?
the far lands (as someone posted) is when the normal chunk code stops and breaks, and the next chunks are rendered stragnly. its an older video but heres someone exploreing it
the farlands are when this happens, if you keep going beyond that you will find no collision areas, but thats deep into it.
as for needing no life? if you sit there and do nothing else maybe, but its really nothing diffrent then watching a movie marathon or a drwaing a picture that takes over 60 hours. at the end of the day, you will still have built something in the MC world no one else has. and for people that play minecraft, thats just as good as finishing ny other goal in any other hobby, just because its a video game doesnt mean you easted the time, you can play football for years, but if you never get paid to do it, and only ever just have fun doing it, you achomplished nothign more.
You can't possibly find all those resources. It will take you forever!
And not to mention how long it'll take to get there. I read that it'd take about 800 hours... Minecraft time or real life time? Geez..
it takes 800 hours real time in the normal world. in the nether it would take alot less time.
edit: I think every 8 blocks in the normal world = 1 block in the nether
edit2: by my calculations it would take about 1,568,852 pieces of minecart tracks to reach the far lands from the center of the map (aka X/Z 0,0). so it would take a long time. it will probably take about 102.5 hours of walking to reach it in the nether. so smart idea to make it in the nether.
You can't possibly find all those resources. It will take you forever!
And not to mention how long it'll take to get there. I read that it'd take about 800 hours... Minecraft time or real life time? Geez..
it takes 800 hours real time in the normal world. in the nether it would take alot less time.
edit: I think every 16 blocks in the normal world = 1 block in the nether
edit2: by my calculations it would take about 784,426 pieces of minecart tracks to reach the far lands from the center of the map (aka X/Z 0,0). so it would take a long time. it will probably take about 51 hours of walking to reach it in the nether. (my caculations are probably wrong on the 51 hours so dont quote me on that)
its every 8 blocks overworl= 1 block neather
the calculations for timne spent traveling are all in the orginal post.
couldn't one set up a nether smp map, use worldedit to take a section of the track and 'stack' it along the given axis millions of times, take the smp save and paste it in your ssp nether file and have an instant track to he farlandsr?....
Lay your rail - and your boosters - as you go. Just put a stoper block (sand, so no tools to un-place it) at the end of the track. Send your carts - ten or fifteen at a time, even - rolling one by one down the track, boosted along to the end by the powered rails. :smile.gif:
Oh shi*, you're right, Nether portal molds only work in the overworld. I guess we'll need some diamond pickaxes after all...something like 65 of them...which actually isn't too bad. Not too many more diamonds to mine with iron tools (pretty much just 3 more iron ore needed to make an extra iron pickaxe to mine the ~200 diamonds needed. Thank goodness for the fact that diamond pickaxes are so durable!
Meh, netherrack comes away in one hit anyways. Keep in mind too that this track will be going in a dead-straight line, so sometimes it'll be going through netherrack, and sometimes it will be soaring out in the open over huge lava oceans. (Don't let OSHA get wind of this project!) One's Lshift key would get quite a workout.
Far lands? Terrain generation says "screw this, I'm leaving" and you get weird sponge-like solid stone water-filled terrain. Structures are distorted, the lag is immense, and it's more than two million chunks in any direction from your spawn point.
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Also for people talking about the lag. I don't think the lag is up to server/computer crashing amounts at the beginning of the far lands. Its only when you get to the loop and the stack that it really starts hurting a good computer.
You fall through the world and die. With enough time to record your debug mode to document your position, of course...but a rail line for fast transit back and forth? Are you planning to come back from the Far Lands?
Does anything like Fly mod from Zombe's modpack work at the Far Lands, so at least you could look around? I'm assuming that's what people who make videos there who hacked their location use. Otherwise they'd be busy falling and dying.
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Theres areas to stand in the far lands at the border between the normal world and the far lands. Its only once you get hundreds of kilometers father into it that blocks become non collision.
as above, plus, its not about just getting to the farlands. there are programs you can use to just teleport there, the point of this project is to build a trasist system to get there by the fastest way possible within whats concidered not cheating. since minecarts are the fastest mode of transportation, its why a rainway is to be built. and with as long as it will take them to walk all teh way there you might as well lay the track, because it will take a long long time.
Kind of what I was thinking, but I guess the idea is to do it the slog way and lay track then use the rails to set the record for fastest non-cheating way. A succession of accomplishments.
Since there is this broad band of sorta-Far-Lands short of complete surface fail, when does one consider oneself to have reached it? When it starts to look weird but you don't fall through?
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What? The idea is to build a track to the far lands not to just get there. So what if you have to walk there while building the track anyway.
Youll notice when you reach it.
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/c/c ... 21line.png
The normal world stops abruptly then looks like that.
Or to put a paperweight on the forward key and go do other things
EDIT: scratch that, wouldn't work, you'd need a clear flat route to do that.
the far lands (as someone posted) is when the normal chunk code stops and breaks, and the next chunks are rendered stragnly. its an older video but heres someone exploreing it
the farlands are when this happens, if you keep going beyond that you will find no collision areas, but thats deep into it.
as for needing no life? if you sit there and do nothing else maybe, but its really nothing diffrent then watching a movie marathon or a drwaing a picture that takes over 60 hours. at the end of the day, you will still have built something in the MC world no one else has. and for people that play minecraft, thats just as good as finishing ny other goal in any other hobby, just because its a video game doesnt mean you easted the time, you can play football for years, but if you never get paid to do it, and only ever just have fun doing it, you achomplished nothign more.
And not to mention how long it'll take to get there. I read that it'd take about 800 hours... Minecraft time or real life time? Geez..
it takes 800 hours real time in the normal world. in the nether it would take alot less time.
edit: I think every 8 blocks in the normal world = 1 block in the nether
edit2: by my calculations it would take about 1,568,852 pieces of minecart tracks to reach the far lands from the center of the map (aka X/Z 0,0). so it would take a long time. it will probably take about 102.5 hours of walking to reach it in the nether. so smart idea to make it in the nether.
its every 8 blocks overworl= 1 block neather
the calculations for timne spent traveling are all in the orginal post.
darn how did i miss that?