I've been waiting like 10 minecraft days, I even let the computer stay on, and my trees still haven't grown.
Can someone tell me whats wrong with this layout??
note: Then I mention a group of people in my posts, i mean the majority of information i have seen from that group, and my statement may not be accurate for every individual in that group.
note: Then I mention a group of people in my posts, i mean the majority of information i have seen from that group, and my statement may not be accurate for every individual in that group.
tree's tend not to grow with an entire forest next to em'. Test it with bone meal, if that doesn't work then something is wrong with spacing. ( as you probably know )
The light level is rather excessive with all those torches, and you don't need water. But yes, try spreading things out a bit more. I created an underground tree farm by having a bunch of trees in between stone like this:
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And they grew, but slowly. It would only sprout one or two trees at most every few days.
My current build I have an aboveground orchard with the trees space 5 blocks apart in each direction, and they all grow to full height in usually 2-3 days thanks to having light sources in between (buried pumpkins in this case)
my tree farm works just fine with rows of trees touching eachother...room isn't the issue
are those sapling planted on farmland? should be on regular dirt instead
here's a pic of my underground tree farm after harvesting all but the last ring of trunks...leaves were all removed to collect saplings
this holds about 160 trees
If you watch AA (Avidya's Adventures), at one point in time, he grew "Tube Trees", where the tree just grew in a 1*1 vertical pipe, leaving very little to no leaves behind.
I think the problem may be the fact that your trees are on tilled soil, which I don't think works. Use regular soil or grass instead, see if that fixes it. EDIT: Just tested, saplings on tilled soil WILL NOT GROW! Tested with Bonemeal and a tree growing zone with no obstructions, which has reliably always produced a tree when not tilled. To account for room of error, I used an entire stack of bonemeal. Untilling the dirt allowed growing once again.
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After all, when you mix these three, you get a cannon builder.
Firstly, your saplings are bunched too close together. While that arrangement will work eventually, you'll have a much faster growth rate with the following configuration:
Where = grass, = sapling and = torch. This will make sure each sapling has 8 open blocks around it, which almost guarantees no sapling will have it's light blocked by the foliage of a neighbor tree.
Secondly, the best tree farms grow in forest or rainforest biomes. Do yourself a favor and build your farm in a region where trees grow fast naturally.
Third, any indoor tree farm will grow slower than an outdoor, free-range one. The walls of an indoor tree farm reduce the number of possible tree sizes in the farm and, as such, the number of sprouted saplings per hour.
Fourth, underground tree farms almost NEVER grow. Even if all other growth criteria are met, the rate at which the trees grow will be so slow that you won't get any kind of real output from it.
So, to recap, for a fast-growing, high-output tree farm, build it outside (with no roof) in a forest or rainforest biome. These are the classic 'working' tree farms, where aesthetics are secondary to production. They tend not to be too pretty, but they crank out the logs at a fantastic rate.
An indoor tree farm will grow, but at a reduced rate due to the walls restricting the trees growth. You can ameliorate this somewhat by building it in a forest or rainforest biome (but still indoors), but it will never grow as fast as an outdoor farm in the same area.
An indoor tree farm that's underground is all but useless, and will grow so slowly you probably won't be able to bring yourself to cut any of the trees because they're so darn rare. Keep underground trees for decoration and bonemeal them into full growth. It'll be faster and a lot less frustrating.
I've been waiting like 10 minecraft days, I even let the computer stay on, and my trees still haven't grown.
Can someone tell me whats wrong with this layout??
An indoor tree farm that's underground is all but useless, and will grow so slowly you probably won't be able to bring yourself to cut any of the trees because they're so darn rare. Keep underground trees for decoration and bonemeal them into full growth. It'll be faster and a lot less frustrating.
are you for real? this is just not true, and i suggest testing it yourself.
these monsters grow VERY quickly:
typical yield is about 200 logs. i chop from the canopy down.
CheshireHead wrote:which almost guarantees no sapling will have it's light blocked by the foliage of a neighbor tree.
this is fallacious.
foliage doesn't block tree growth, only trunks do, even on fast.
I didn't say it blocked *growth*, I said it blocked *light*, which may stunt growth as leaf blocks may count as a 'ceiling' block and null the tree growth algorithm. Most people agree that saplings should have unrestricted light falling on them to maximize growth rates and this arrangement minimizes unintentional shading of unsprouted saplings.
are you for real? this is just not true, and i suggest testing it yourself.
Sigh.
Yes, I'm for real. And I've tested this myself, and these are the results I've gotten. If you can replicate different results, please feel free to post your methods so others can try them. It's certainly possible you know techniques that I don't.
are you for real? this is just not true, and i suggest testing it yourself.
Sigh.
Yes, I'm for real. And I've tested this myself, and these are the results I've gotten. If you can replicate different results, please feel free to post your methods so others can try them. It's certainly possible you know techniques that I don't.
shrug. you can see the sapling pattern i use and the approximate dimensions of the room. what else do you need?
shrug. you can see the sapling pattern i use and the approximate dimensions of the room. what else do you need?
Nothing, personally. I'm quite happy with my tree farm designs and approaches, and in sharing my experiences with those who ask for help. I only ask for the benefit of others, who may be interested in learning for themselves if your design is superior. It appeared to me that you were more interested in trolling me when I was trying to help someone who asked for assistance and I was trying to get the thread back on track.
Since you seem more interested in antagonizing me than in comparing designs, I'll drop the issue and let the OP decide for themselves.
I've been waiting like 10 minecraft days, I even let the computer stay on, and my trees still haven't grown.
Can someone tell me whats wrong with this layout??
Please be more specific. Thank you (:
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And they grew, but slowly. It would only sprout one or two trees at most every few days.
My current build I have an aboveground orchard with the trees space 5 blocks apart in each direction, and they all grow to full height in usually 2-3 days thanks to having light sources in between (buried pumpkins in this case)
are those sapling planted on farmland? should be on regular dirt instead
here's a pic of my underground tree farm after harvesting all but the last ring of trunks...leaves were all removed to collect saplings
this holds about 160 trees
No.
If you watch AA (Avidya's Adventures), at one point in time, he grew "Tube Trees", where the tree just grew in a 1*1 vertical pipe, leaving very little to no leaves behind.
I think the problem may be the fact that your trees are on tilled soil, which I don't think works. Use regular soil or grass instead, see if that fixes it.
EDIT: Just tested, saplings on tilled soil WILL NOT GROW! Tested with Bonemeal and a tree growing zone with no obstructions, which has reliably always produced a tree when not tilled. To account for room of error, I used an entire stack of bonemeal. Untilling the dirt allowed growing once again.
After all, when you mix these three, you get a cannon builder.
Otherwords,
No, there's NO WAY I just said that in the post right above yours.
After all, when you mix these three, you get a cannon builder.
Otherwords,
Where = grass, = sapling and = torch. This will make sure each sapling has 8 open blocks around it, which almost guarantees no sapling will have it's light blocked by the foliage of a neighbor tree.
Secondly, the best tree farms grow in forest or rainforest biomes. Do yourself a favor and build your farm in a region where trees grow fast naturally.
Third, any indoor tree farm will grow slower than an outdoor, free-range one. The walls of an indoor tree farm reduce the number of possible tree sizes in the farm and, as such, the number of sprouted saplings per hour.
Fourth, underground tree farms almost NEVER grow. Even if all other growth criteria are met, the rate at which the trees grow will be so slow that you won't get any kind of real output from it.
So, to recap, for a fast-growing, high-output tree farm, build it outside (with no roof) in a forest or rainforest biome. These are the classic 'working' tree farms, where aesthetics are secondary to production. They tend not to be too pretty, but they crank out the logs at a fantastic rate.
An indoor tree farm will grow, but at a reduced rate due to the walls restricting the trees growth. You can ameliorate this somewhat by building it in a forest or rainforest biome (but still indoors), but it will never grow as fast as an outdoor farm in the same area.
An indoor tree farm that's underground is all but useless, and will grow so slowly you probably won't be able to bring yourself to cut any of the trees because they're so darn rare. Keep underground trees for decoration and bonemeal them into full growth. It'll be faster and a lot less frustrating.
hehe..interesting one
this is fallacious.
foliage doesn't block tree growth, only trunks do, even on fast.
are you for real? this is just not true, and i suggest testing it yourself.
these monsters grow VERY quickly:
typical yield is about 200 logs. i chop from the canopy down.
I didn't say it blocked *growth*, I said it blocked *light*, which may stunt growth as leaf blocks may count as a 'ceiling' block and null the tree growth algorithm. Most people agree that saplings should have unrestricted light falling on them to maximize growth rates and this arrangement minimizes unintentional shading of unsprouted saplings.
Sigh.
Yes, I'm for real. And I've tested this myself, and these are the results I've gotten. If you can replicate different results, please feel free to post your methods so others can try them. It's certainly possible you know techniques that I don't.
shrug. you can see the sapling pattern i use and the approximate dimensions of the room. what else do you need?
Nothing, personally. I'm quite happy with my tree farm designs and approaches, and in sharing my experiences with those who ask for help. I only ask for the benefit of others, who may be interested in learning for themselves if your design is superior. It appeared to me that you were more interested in trolling me when I was trying to help someone who asked for assistance and I was trying to get the thread back on track.
Since you seem more interested in antagonizing me than in comparing designs, I'll drop the issue and let the OP decide for themselves.