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This thread is mainly in reply to all of these 'Notch doesn't care!', 'I'm entitled to X', etc. threads. I'm splitting it up into sections, some being small and some being larger.
The Blog
To start, I'd like to address everyone complaining about Notch's blog having personal things on it. It is his personal blog, and clearly states that: "This is my personal blog, but it's like 95% about Minecraft development." A Minecraft-specific blog is in the works, and will be built-in to the new version of the launcher which is in the works, and will likely also be on a web page somewhere.
The 'New Game'/Notch 'not working on Minecraft'
The 'new game' isn't being developed by Notch. It's mainly being made by JahKob, and Junkboy is helping with the art/graphical section of it(and iirc, they're still searching for another developer to help out with it). More information on this game is coming soon, likely within the next few weeks. This hasn't hindered Notch's development of Minecraft in any way, and it won't. Notch & Jeb's main focus is Minecraft.
Notch/Mojang 'goof off' instead of working on Minecraft
I've seen quite a lot of people being angry/frustrated about Notch/Mojang 'goofing off' instead of working on Minecraft. I don't see any problem with Mojang playing games(example being Civ V in most complaint posts) or playing games in the office(nerf guns). The people at Mojang like to have fun, just as anyone. Like most of the people who frequent these forums, they often play video games and things like that.
I see how it can be taken as they're doing things such as that instead of working on Minecraft, but anyone who truly believes that, I mean no offense to you, but you're just a complete idiot. They work on Minecraft/the other game more than they play games. During breaks, after-hours, etc. is when they usually would do these things. Work gets stressful, and a good work environment makes it all the better. I absolutely hated it when I had to work jobs in a terrible environment where we never got to do anything fun. I was overall less productive, and generally worked slower.
Now, my point being here is basically that Notch and the rest of Mojang playing games and having fun does not slow development of either of the games.
'I'm entitled to X!'
To start, I completely understand anyone who makes this argument, but I have to say that you are wrong. I, much like a lot of you, had this mindset for a day. I just wasn't having a good day in general, and needed somewhere to vent some anger(place being Notch). Older members of the community will remember this, and I'd rather not get into details for those of you who don't.
Now, to start, you legally are entitled to nothing. The terms and conditions clearly states "When you purchase the game, you pay for it as it is right now. Future updates are an added bonus." The fact that this may or may not have been added in at a later date is irrelevant. By playing the game after the terms and conditions are changed, you agree to the new terms and conditions. Mojang holds the right to stop development at any time. This does not mean that they will, however. This is something to due with legal issues in the event something bad happens or an event happens that makes development come to a halt. This will most likely never happen.
Mojang never updates Minecraft! / I never get help with my support issues!
This has to be the thing I'm most angry about. Most of you do not realize how many things are going on at once for Notch and everyone at Mojang. They've just finished setting up a company and moving into an office(which is still being renovated), and things take time. Minecraft still gets regular updates, and the speed will increase now that both Notch and jeb are working on Minecraft together. The business-side of things will be ironed out and things in that sense will speed up soon, also increasing the speed of development.
I'd also like to point out how new this is to Notch and many people at Mojang. This was originally a small side-project for Notch to see if he'd be able to earn any money off of developing games(and you can see that he can), and it grew quite quickly to something he did not expect. He's learning how to deal with problems that come with this, one of the major things being support. Mojang now has an official bug-tracker set up, which organizes common problems, questions, and ideas. The support side of things is slowly being improved, and will also become much faster. People sending irrelevant e-mails to the wrong address also makes Mojang spend time going through e-mails which have no valid information, wasting their time.
What I'm trying to say here is that development speed is increasing, as is support. Mojang is working their hardest to improve on all areas, and it just takes time.
In conclusion...
All of these complaints are not only making Mojang work slower(by having to go through them), but they are also demoralizing Mojang. With this, you are all also (a) making this community look terrible and unfriendly, (:cool.gif: ruining these forums, making it harder for the moderators and administrators, and (c) being selfish and not looking at both sides of something.
There are a few things I'd like to say, as well, but most of which would likely get me into some trouble on these forums and I'd like to keep things civil. That's all I've really got to say, and I'll edit this post if I have anything more to add. Be sure to follow what I have said in the top of this thread, or your post will be reported and dealt with accordingly.
TL;DR
Im sure its something along the lines of notch doesnt owe you anything
you bought as is
notch is god he made this game in 7 days
stop qqing
you call us self intitled look at you and this whine fest of a thread the games broken get over it NDF away
what are you are NDF captain ??
A well thought out reply to the biggest problem our community has ever faced: Entitlement issues. Thank you for putting the right words to what most intelligent users were thinking.
I agree, I hate the new face of the Minecraft community. Instead of trying to milk out everything out of your hefty ~15$ investment to this game, look back at the likely countless hours you've spent playing this game, and all the enjoyment that's come from it. I want to assume that those who complain, complain because they care enough about the game, but of course there will be trolls who argue for the sake of arguing. To those former people described, just be grateful that you are even able to play Minecraft.. some 2009'ers originally saw this game as nothing but a lego simulator with a few blocks, and it's now come so far from that. There are things that I wish Notch would do sure, but I'm not going to scream out on these forums that he's never updated, there was **** that had to be done in the past, and he's dealt with that; there's **** that has to be dealt with now, and he'll deal with that, at his/Mojang's own pace.
I think people are mainly mad because Notch usually doesn't say much about the game in his tweets or blogs. All we usually hear is that hes playing other games or working on a secret game.
It would be nice to hear some Minecraft news, bug fixes, planned additions and such.
I remember playing this game back in 2009 soon after it was created, oh how I loved the community back then the people with how lovely and polite they were. . . Granted a few bad seeds floated here and there but as time went on I started seeing these people pop up, and starting to surge and crash these people were worse than the old lovely people, and now today they overshadow us completely horrible in nature. Selfish, ungrateful, belligerent, ignorant, and just plain idiotic.
These new folks constantly drone on about how Notch is X or cant do X, and yes areas he does falter but that is to be expected with his current situation and he could improvise with community additions/fixes. But the overall attitude that is being shown is horrendous and pitiful. Third party communities of notable size are easily more mature, respectful, and mostly intelligent than this one. . . So why aren't we mature? Its not hard to do, so why not do it?
I think people are mainly mad because Notch usually doesn't say much about the game in his tweets or blogs. All we usually hear is that hes playing other games or working on a secret game.
This blatant lie has already been exposed. He usually posts about the game, contrary tot he lies of the entitlement kids. I wish the entitlement kids would stop repeating this blatant lie.
It would be nice to hear some Minecraft news, bug fixes, planned additions and such.
You mean like one of the major recent updates outlining the current status, and the plan ahead?
I remember playing this game back in 2009 soon after it was created, oh how I loved the community back then the people with how lovely and polite they were. . . Granted a few bad seeds floated here and there but as time went on I started seeing these people pop up, and starting to surge and crash these people were worse than the old lovely people, and now today they overshadow us completely horrible in nature. Selfish, ungrateful, belligerent, ignorant, and just plain idiotic.
These new folks constantly drone on about how Notch is X or cant do X, and yes areas he does falter but that is to be expected with his current situation and he could improvise with community additions/fixes. But the overall attitude that is being shown is horrendous and pitiful. third party communities of notable size are easily more mature, respectful, and mostly intelligent than this one. . . So why aren't we mature? Its not hard to do, so why not do it?
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I remember playing this game back in 2009 soon after it was created, oh how I loved the community back then the people with how lovely and polite they were. . . Granted a few bad seeds floated here and there but as time went on I started seeing these people pop up, and starting to surge and crash these people were worse than the old lovely people, and now today they overshadow us completely horrible in nature. Selfish, ungrateful, belligerent, ignorant, and just plain idiotic.
These new folks constantly drone on about how Notch is X or cant do X, and yes areas he does falter but that is to be expected with his current situation and he could improvise with community additions/fixes. But the overall attitude that is being shown is horrendous and pitiful. third party communities of notable size are easily more mature, respectful, and mostly intelligent than this one. . . So why aren't we mature? Its not hard to do, so why not do it?
Animator gave me a simple equation a while back on what he thought /any/ community would go through.
That equation is:
As the popularity of a community increases over time, the quality decreases.
A simple enough statement, and one that can easily applied to Minecraft, which is an utter shame. Animator's retired now, but I'm sure he'd be troubled if he saw the state of the members of these forums.
I think people are mainly mad because Notch usually doesn't say much about the game in his tweets or blogs. All we usually hear is that hes playing other games or working on a secret game.
This blatant lie has already been exposed. He usually posts about the game, contrary tot he lies of the entitlement kids. I wish the entitlement kids would stop repeating this blatant lie.
It would be nice to hear some Minecraft news, bug fixes, planned additions and such.
You mean like one of the major recent updates outlining the current status, and the plan ahead?
If you go back and look at RECENT blog posts and tweets, what do you see? I see patch notes, server issues vacation, sleeping, launcher info. There really isn't anything related to future plans for Minecraft.
I think people are mainly mad because Notch usually doesn't say much about the game in his tweets or blogs. All we usually hear is that hes playing other games or working on a secret game.
This blatant lie has already been exposed. He usually posts about the game, contrary tot he lies of the entitlement kids. I wish the entitlement kids would stop repeating this blatant lie.
It would be nice to hear some Minecraft news, bug fixes, planned additions and such.
You mean like one of the major recent updates outlining the current status, and the plan ahead?
If you go back and look at RECENT blog posts and tweets, what do you see? I see patch notes, server issues vacation, sleeping, launcher info. There really isn't anything related to future plans for Minecraft.
all of that minus the vacation and sleeping is related to future plans for Minecraft!
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I think people are mainly mad because Notch usually doesn't say much about the game in his tweets or blogs. All we usually hear is that hes playing other games or working on a secret game.
This blatant lie has already been exposed. He usually posts about the game, contrary tot he lies of the entitlement kids. I wish the entitlement kids would stop repeating this blatant lie.
It would be nice to hear some Minecraft news, bug fixes, planned additions and such.
You mean like one of the major recent updates outlining the current status, and the plan ahead?
If you go back and look at RECENT blog posts and tweets, what do you see? I see patch notes, server issues vacation, sleeping, launcher info. There really isn't anything related to future plans for Minecraft.
So improving on a work in progress product does not directly influence its future state and condition? wat.
I think people are mainly mad because Notch usually doesn't say much about the game in his tweets or blogs. All we usually hear is that hes playing other games or working on a secret game.
This blatant lie has already been exposed. He usually posts about the game, contrary tot he lies of the entitlement kids. I wish the entitlement kids would stop repeating this blatant lie.
It would be nice to hear some Minecraft news, bug fixes, planned additions and such.
You mean like one of the major recent updates outlining the current status, and the plan ahead?
If you go back and look at RECENT blog posts and tweets, what do you see? I see patch notes, server issues vacation, sleeping, launcher info. There really isn't anything related to future plans for Minecraft.
I addressed exactly that: Recent blog posts. Tweets? I see a bunch of random comments it's impossible to decipher the context from.
You clearly didn't even read the post I linked to. I specifically debunked the blatant lie that "there really isn't anything related to future plans for Minecraft". Seriously, are you this dishonest? The front page of his blog contains a post called "Information dump incoming!", which outlines the current status and future of Minecraft!
How are patch notes and server issues not related to Minecraft? There's that extreme dishonesty again...
Sleeping? Yes, he posted about sleeping due to exhaustion caused by work directly related to Minecraft!
And vacation? Oh my God! He takes some time off to celebrate his mother's 60th birthday! What a *******!
Thanks for proving once again just how dishonest entitlement kids are.
Not to sound rude, but you really don't understand what I'm trying to say. I don't know if you didn't read what I said or thought I was flaming but whatever.
The servers have nothing to do with the content of the game. I have no idea what they plan to put in the game, or what they're working on. They don't update us on anything they do really, that's related to the game itself. It would be nice to know that they know about bugs and stuff like that, and that they have plans of fixing them.
Not to sound rude, but you really don't understand what I'm trying to say. I don't know if you didn't read what I said or thought I was flaming but whatever.
No, I read you perfectly as far as I can tell. You were whining about recent blog posts, and listed a bunch of things you think don't relate to Minecraft.
The servers have nothing to do with the content of the game. I have no idea what they plan to put in the game, or what they're working on. They don't update us on anything they do really, that's related to the game itself. It would be nice to know that they know about bugs and stuff like that, and that they have plans of fixing them.
Stop whining. Stop lying. His blog is full of posts on Minecraft. Just because you don't think Minecraft related servers are relevant to Minecraft doesn't make it so. And again, there's a huge post on the front page of his blog listing the status and future plans. Those future plans, by the way, are not necessarily clear enough to even make more specific comments about it.
You are whining because he doesn't post exactly what you think he should be posting. At the same time, you are lying about what he's actually posting. I guess it sucks to be you.
This thread is mainly in reply to all of these 'Notch doesn't care!', 'I'm entitled to X', etc. threads. I'm splitting it up into sections, some being small and some being larger.
I see how it can be taken as they're doing things such as that instead of working on Minecraft, but anyone who truly believes that, I mean no offense to you, but you're just a complete idiot. They work on Minecraft/the other game more than they play games. During breaks, after-hours, etc. is when they usually would do these things. Work gets stressful, and a good work environment makes it all the better. I absolutely hated it when I had to work jobs in a terrible environment where we never got to do anything fun. I was overall less productive, and generally worked slower.
Now, my point being here is basically that Notch and the rest of Mojang playing games and having fun does not slow development of either of the games.
Now, to start, you legally are entitled to nothing. The terms and conditions clearly states "When you purchase the game, you pay for it as it is right now. Future updates are an added bonus." The fact that this may or may not have been added in at a later date is irrelevant. By playing the game after the terms and conditions are changed, you agree to the new terms and conditions. Mojang holds the right to stop development at any time. This does not mean that they will, however. This is something to due with legal issues in the event something bad happens or an event happens that makes development come to a halt. This will most likely never happen.
I'd also like to point out how new this is to Notch and many people at Mojang. This was originally a small side-project for Notch to see if he'd be able to earn any money off of developing games(and you can see that he can), and it grew quite quickly to something he did not expect. He's learning how to deal with problems that come with this, one of the major things being support. Mojang now has an official bug-tracker set up, which organizes common problems, questions, and ideas. The support side of things is slowly being improved, and will also become much faster. People sending irrelevant e-mails to the wrong address also makes Mojang spend time going through e-mails which have no valid information, wasting their time.
What I'm trying to say here is that development speed is increasing, as is support. Mojang is working their hardest to improve on all areas, and it just takes time.
There are a few things I'd like to say, as well, but most of which would likely get me into some trouble on these forums and I'd like to keep things civil. That's all I've really got to say, and I'll edit this post if I have anything more to add. Be sure to follow what I have said in the top of this thread, or your post will be reported and dealt with accordingly.
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Im sure its something along the lines of notch doesnt owe you anything
you bought as is
notch is god he made this game in 7 days
stop qqing
you call us self intitled look at you and this whine fest of a thread the games broken get over it NDF away
what are you are NDF captain ??
u love notch we know the games buster GTFOI
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So you didn't bother to read it, and yet you respond?
The absolute absurdity of users lately has grown so immensly both here, at the GS page, and obviously in the e-mail sector.
We need the users who understand whats going on to figure out a way to get this through new users heads.
It would be nice to hear some Minecraft news, bug fixes, planned additions and such.
These new folks constantly drone on about how Notch is X or cant do X, and yes areas he does falter but that is to be expected with his current situation and he could improvise with community additions/fixes. But the overall attitude that is being shown is horrendous and pitiful. Third party communities of notable size are easily more mature, respectful, and mostly intelligent than this one. . . So why aren't we mature? Its not hard to do, so why not do it?
This blatant lie has already been exposed. He usually posts about the game, contrary tot he lies of the entitlement kids. I wish the entitlement kids would stop repeating this blatant lie.
You mean like one of the major recent updates outlining the current status, and the plan ahead?
This.
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Animator gave me a simple equation a while back on what he thought /any/ community would go through.
That equation is:
As the popularity of a community increases over time, the quality decreases.
A simple enough statement, and one that can easily applied to Minecraft, which is an utter shame. Animator's retired now, but I'm sure he'd be troubled if he saw the state of the members of these forums.
If you go back and look at RECENT blog posts and tweets, what do you see? I see patch notes, server issues vacation, sleeping, launcher info. There really isn't anything related to future plans for Minecraft.
all of that minus the vacation and sleeping is related to future plans for Minecraft!
So improving on a work in progress product does not directly influence its future state and condition? wat.
I addressed exactly that: Recent blog posts. Tweets? I see a bunch of random comments it's impossible to decipher the context from.
You clearly didn't even read the post I linked to. I specifically debunked the blatant lie that "there really isn't anything related to future plans for Minecraft". Seriously, are you this dishonest? The front page of his blog contains a post called "Information dump incoming!", which outlines the current status and future of Minecraft!
How are patch notes and server issues not related to Minecraft? There's that extreme dishonesty again...
Sleeping? Yes, he posted about sleeping due to exhaustion caused by work directly related to Minecraft!
And vacation? Oh my God! He takes some time off to celebrate his mother's 60th birthday! What a *******!
Thanks for proving once again just how dishonest entitlement kids are.
The servers have nothing to do with the content of the game. I have no idea what they plan to put in the game, or what they're working on. They don't update us on anything they do really, that's related to the game itself. It would be nice to know that they know about bugs and stuff like that, and that they have plans of fixing them.
No, I read you perfectly as far as I can tell. You were whining about recent blog posts, and listed a bunch of things you think don't relate to Minecraft.
Stop whining. Stop lying. His blog is full of posts on Minecraft. Just because you don't think Minecraft related servers are relevant to Minecraft doesn't make it so. And again, there's a huge post on the front page of his blog listing the status and future plans. Those future plans, by the way, are not necessarily clear enough to even make more specific comments about it.
You are whining because he doesn't post exactly what you think he should be posting. At the same time, you are lying about what he's actually posting. I guess it sucks to be you.