OMG. Finally. You think just like me, that mods are for cheap people, and that they have little or no influence on Notch's To-do list. Thank You!!!
Actually, I have to disagree with this - mods aren't for cheap people, they are for people who want to use them, and that in no way makes them cheap.
I agree that Notch should focus on making Minecraft as bug-free as possible, and only add things he wants to see in the game, instead of creating as much content as possible just because people want to have something new every other day without thinking whether adding it is plausible or not. It also means that I think he should let himself be influenced by people and only add mods' content to the game if he thinks they are good (I'm really glad that he's trying to incorporate rewrite created for the "Optimine" mod, because it enhances performance and some people really have problems with it, but I prefer to only add additional content when I wish to, instead of being forced to have some things present in mods), instead of adding every possible thing just to please people who like to have as much as possible even if they aren't using it.
That being said, I really don't understand why are people only capable of thinking that either Notch or modders are useful, instead of admitting that both Notch and modding community do a great job - are humans built of RS latches or something, because I can't find any other explanation for that.
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It would be great if you also cooled down a little - there's no need to bash people who prefer to use mods, just because they do, and it certainly isn't nice to do so.
Notch is not crappy, but that doesn't mean modders are, let alone people who use their mods, so please keep it in mind and try to convince people that Notch does a good job instead of trying to convince them that modders don't.
I don't think modders do a bad job, I'm just saying that they tend to get annoying when thy want their stuff actually IN the game. That's all. I also MEANT to say that the only cheap people are the people that can't except the game as it is and use or make a bunch of mods to completely change what they do and look at in the game (and sometimes make it as easy as crap to get to the top, and potentially take the fun away). I hope you get me now.
Modders have been completely out-doing Notch in updates. Modders, single individuals, without any other help, have made dozens of MOBs. MOBs that you can ride, and actually WANT to ride. MOBs in the water. They have made paints, months before Notch even planned to. They have made dozens of new crafting recipes, new blocks, and new ores. They have made the Nether actually worth a damn to visit.
Heres a list of fully-functioning, non-buggy mods:
A Minimap
Birds
Ogres
Tower dungeons
Dyes/Paints
Fixing snow
Boomerangs
Ambient Occulsion
Fixes For HD Textures
Lions
Bears
Handheld torches
Humans
Dragons
Wolves
Horses
Ogres that break blocks
WEREWOLVES
Herobrine
Rogues
Elves
Hunters
Wanderers
Archers
Knights
The list goes on.
Notch, on the other hand, who has an entire office full of programmers, artists, marketers, etc. has given us in the last two months:
*a custom deadmau5 skin (only for deadmau5)
*capes
*(hopefully) a water mob
*(hopefully) paints
*throwing an egg can maybe get you a chicken
*leaf decay
*a ****-ton of bugs
Notch needs to actually DO something with his damn game, cause these modders are making him out to be pretty damn lazy.
And now, I guess I wait for the ****-storm of Notch-Defenders telling me if I don't like the game to not play it.
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lions make no sense on forested islands
Notch WILL fix the snow
if the world has no other humans but you, there can't be any of the last stuff
if notch was not selective with what he puts into the game, people will rant on him a TON
i dont mind mods; only the crappy ones that make the game no fun or take the whole concept of the game and replace it with garbage annoy me
give Notch some breathing room, he has a lot to do
dragons would be over-powered
tower dungeons would be the easiest thing to find, next to grass
i should also send a PM to notch with the link to this thread :wink.gif:
Oh yeah, I forgot. Most modders make mods because they love the community, and NOT want to make millions off of computer codes. They want to add to the community, so the people of the community of minecraft can decide how they want to play it. Just don't make crappy things or rant/complain and I'm cool. :smile.gif:
If there was never a Notch, There would have been no minecraft. Thus no modders to work on it.
Now that there is minecraft, There doesnt have to be a Notch. He could stop working on the game today and forver after, Idc.
@Tyber13
Modders arent sitting on millions of dollars to create and bugfix their mod, Form a buisness, and fill their bathtubs with green.
Which imo, they deserve. Given the number of things they add and give to the game. Not to mention that when they release a version of their mod. [The quality folk that is] It isnt full of slap you in the face bugs.
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Y'know, just cuz your rich doesnt mean stuff just magically happens. What, do you want him to wave that 1-mill in front of his computer screen and say 'CODES!' and millions of lines of code will appear?
DERP
and they dont really 'deserve' millions of dollars. all they did was alter the work notch did. Which, obviously, does not take as much time or skill as making an entire game. Not that im anti-mod, i use mods as well, but they arent nearly as good as the full game itself.
Mo'creatures, no, this one just seems over the top, horses are great but the ogres looked way to over powered, and notch could probably add a bunch of random mobs if he wanted to but useless and/or boring is not good
BetterLight, I love how an opinion is the name of this mod. I don't think it is better at all, in fact it made the game just look more fake. I loved the smooth shading but you end up with shadows in places that shadows should not be where as the current system lights those spots up. Lighting system needs a tweak, this isn't it. IMHO
All the ores and tools I've seen are usually over powered, like obsidian tools that break blocks instantly. The biome code does admittedly need a lot of tweeking but this is not game breaking at all and just goes onto the "polish later" pile.
As for the minimap mod, it is Over-powered. This is medieval, not super high tech items that can somehow gather an overhead image of the world without actually existing.
and can you shove dirt on an arrow, shoot the arrows a few times, and expect a floating walkway of dirt?
lol, these mods are game-breaking. you might as well play a FPS with godmode on, and a strategy game with infinite resources.
I figured you were old enough to come to conclusions on your own, and that i could avoid spelling it out. Silly me.
Having millions allows you to obtain assets faster then say someone without millions laying around.
If that isnt clear enough, waving that one mil at a talented programmer makes lines of code, Hell he could wave it at 10 of them and have money to spare.
DERP
But its good to know Notch will easily make another few mil from his next game. He has enough blind followers it could be complete crap and he would still profit.
That aside, Notch should work more, or stop being so vauge when talking about what hes done.
Ohai, may i direct you to the lrn2troll page, or can you find it yourself?
That was the saddest excuse for a flame i have ever seen. 100% flame with no reasoning behind it. Not at all. You just flamed me, thus proving my point that your an ignorant, oblivious kid.
P.S: on ignore list now, i see no point in trying to reason with a kid.
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You are now reading this. You just lost the game.
You have just read this. You are also manually breathing.
Ohai, may i direct you to the lrn2troll page, or can you find it yourself?
That was the saddest excuse for a flame i have ever seen. 100% flame with no reasoning behind it. Not at all. You just flamed me, thus proving my point that your an ignorant, oblivious kid.
Call it a flame instead of make a point, What an adult. Not to say im behaving like one myself.
after all, "DERP" is such a comment phrase used by the elders of the net aint it.
Forums, Fun for all ages.
Silly me.
Having millions allows you to obtain assets faster then say someone without millions laying around.
If that isnt clear enough, waving that one mil at a talented programmer makes lines of code, Hell he could wave it at 10 of them and have money to spare.
no not really, too many cooks ruin the broth ring any bells?
and as someone possibly said in another thread modders are just reusing notchs ingame mechanics to make there things (ill link the post later when i find it), with a few exceptions naturally
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Now that there is minecraft, There doesnt have to be a Notch. He could stop working on the game today and forver after, Idc.
could you perhaps point me to the mod that made water mobs available to the game? that were released before the update?
Whilst i agree to some degree with op you have to hand it to notch to make such a great game that is loved by so many people. And the greatest thing is its just so simple that you just have to love it.
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PLEASE CLICK THE EGG AND YOU WILL HELP A BABY DRAGON NOT DIE
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I agree that it would be nice if Notch could add more stuff instead of saying he's going to but he also has to make sure that the game works and that there aren't any weird bugs like rain underwater for instance.(No really that happened to me today I have pics to prove it.)
Well think about this he has to think of what to put into this game, an indy game, so he doesnt make more than that and well there is more of us than them. Plus we just put whatever into the game as mods and like it or not, but he has to make it so all of us like it and did I mention it is an indy game?
No, with money, you hire coderS ( yeah, you can have more than 1, big news I know ) who code line after line... that is if you don't move them to another project....
So yeah, money can make minecraft devellope faster.
Stop it. This thread was old when it died, don't keep it going with stuff that's already been said.
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This forum ticked me off so much I went to random.org and set my password to something I'll never be able to remember, then switched my password reset to a throwaway.
I don't think modders do a bad job, I'm just saying that they tend to get annoying when thy want their stuff actually IN the game. That's all. I also MEANT to say that the only cheap people are the people that can't except the game as it is and use or make a bunch of mods to completely change what they do and look at in the game (and sometimes make it as easy as crap to get to the top, and potentially take the fun away). I hope you get me now.
O wow i just typed a whole slew of stuff and then my computer froze
In review from what was supposed to come up:
lions make no sense on forested islands
Notch WILL fix the snow
if the world has no other humans but you, there can't be any of the last stuff
if notch was not selective with what he puts into the game, people will rant on him a TON
i dont mind mods; only the crappy ones that make the game no fun or take the whole concept of the game and replace it with garbage annoy me
give Notch some breathing room, he has a lot to do
dragons would be over-powered
tower dungeons would be the easiest thing to find, next to grass
i should also send a PM to notch with the link to this thread :wink.gif:
all in all, thats it (that was anti-climatic)
P.S. I appreciate that. Thanks :biggrin.gif:
I figured you were old enough to come to conclusions on your own, and that i could avoid spelling it out. Silly me.
Having millions allows you to obtain assets faster then say someone without millions laying around.
If that isnt clear enough, waving that one mil at a talented programmer makes lines of code, Hell he could wave it at 10 of them and have money to spare.
DERP
But its good to know Notch will easily make another few mil from his next game. He has enough blind followers it could be complete crap and he would still profit.
That aside, Notch should work more, or stop being so vauge when talking about what hes done.
That was the saddest excuse for a flame i have ever seen. 100% flame with no reasoning behind it. Not at all. You just flamed me, thus proving my point that your an ignorant, oblivious kid.
P.S: on ignore list now, i see no point in trying to reason with a kid.
You have just read this. You are also manually breathing.
Call it a flame instead of make a point, What an adult. Not to say im behaving like one myself.
after all, "DERP" is such a comment phrase used by the elders of the net aint it.
Forums, Fun for all ages.
no not really, too many cooks ruin the broth ring any bells?
and as someone possibly said in another thread modders are just reusing notchs ingame mechanics to make there things (ill link the post later when i find it), with a few exceptions naturally
could you perhaps point me to the mod that made water mobs available to the game? that were released before the update?
PLEASE CLICK THE EGG AND YOU WILL HELP A BABY DRAGON NOT DIE
Kudos and happy holidays from Javalavadingdong!
who did this?!
Stop it. This thread was old when it died, don't keep it going with stuff that's already been said.
Mojang needs to step it up N-N