Yes, same as Norway, where i am from.
I believe Minecraft is based more or less on Sweden, witch will be about the same as Norway and Finland.
Some areas on the world may have better light from the moon at night time, but usually it is rather dark up here in the cold countries in the north of Europe.
Just to add that in a night WITH A MOON, we can actually see the colors and our shadow. and we ca see really far. When it is actually PITCH BLACK, you have to be in a forest or under clouds. Otherwise, if there's a full moon (like in this game), the darkness displayed is too dark.
add me in the "too dark" group. As in...can't see anything at all, save for contrast between the sky and terrain. I usually just mine at the night cycle, all you can do.
but giving it a little more light so you can...I dunno...walk from point a to point b at night would be nice. And how does it change anything? You'll actually be able to see the thing chopping you to peices, as opposed to not able to tell whats hitting you from where?
Spend some time outside for petes sake, under a full moon you can do yardwork, hell...ever hear of the harvest moon? That's why it was called that, because they freaking worked all night in the fields! Under a new moon, yes...it gets very dark. But last I checked, minecraft has a full moon floating in the sky, and we should at least be navigate, if not work. (With monsters!)
And before you get all "calibrate your monitor", I'm a graphic artist, both print and web. I keep two monitors on hand, one with a warm light, one cool light, just so I can see how things will display for people with different monitors. These monitors are properly calibrated (Or as properly as is possible) and the cool lcd display has a brightness of 300 cc/m2. On neither of these monitors can you see ANYTHING outside without torches. You cannot navigate from point a to point b, unless you can see torches at the destination. (In which case, you are still going to get caught up on terrain, and jump like a blind fool trying to navigate your way to that light source, since you can't tell if you are walking on dirt, rock, or about to walk into water, or a hole in the ground. It's flat out stupid dark, and I agree, it detracts from the game as a whole.
It should be dark, but dark is not pitch black.
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I'm begining to think there is something funky going on here. People saying they can see the shadow of a tree at night? Dark being the bottom of a cave with no torches? For me the only difference between the cave with no torches and night time is that I can see stars. Nothing is illuminated at ALL. pitch black.
On the supposition that this is a graphics card issue, I'm on ATI 4850, latest drivers.
I propose we list if we can see or not, and list what brand card we are using. See if there is a correlation there.
Yeah, it's too dark, can't see more than 4 or 5 blocks from me in a cave, so I have to continuously put torches. I've been seeing videos, and they can see a creeper coming their way from 20+ blocks D:
Yeah, it's too dark, can't see more than 4 or 5 blocks from me in a cave, so I have to continuously put torches. I've been seeing videos, and they can see a creeper coming their way from 20+ blocks D:
That doesnt make any sense... you still view the video on your own monitor. So unless they have hacked the client or something, you should be able to see just as much when you play the game yourself.
Try downloading the exe, and running it in full screen.
Or try resetting your monitors every setting, back to fabric settings.
You could also try lowering the red and blue colors to about 85%, while leaving the green at 100%, might work with red as well.
If its too dark, up your gamma settings. Every monitor I use leaves the brightness at 0% because it makes things look gross, and I have no problem navigating at night. Everyone complaining about the night being TOO dark (note: those complaining about darkness in general may have valid points) just didn't realize they had a problem with their display settings until now.
If you accidentally hit 'F' at some time, it may have changed your render distance cutoff. This happened to me, and the moon stopped putting out light.
Hitting 'F' a couple more times fixed it for me. Of course, this might not be your problem, but if you are getting no light at all, then it probably is.
If its too dark, up your gamma settings. Every monitor I use leaves the brightness at 0% because it makes things look gross, and I have no problem navigating at night. Everyone complaining about the night being TOO dark (note: those complaining about darkness in general may have valid points) just didn't realize they had a problem with their display settings until now.
No. There's nothing wrong with my display settings. They're exactly how I want them. If anything they're a little too bright. I tried turning the brightness down just so my eyes wouldn't strain. This was fine on my computer, and in other games, but the moment I went in Minecraft and saw night-time I reverted it, because it made night time pitch black and basically unplayable when night time came around.
Other than just increasing brightness during night-time, how about a little more creative solution?
Moon-phases. If there's a full moon it shouldn't be this dark, on a new moon it'd be probably as dark as it is now, and an added effect is that you couldn't tell what time it was at night by looking up at the moon.
No. There's nothing wrong with my display settings. They're exactly how I want them. If anything they're a little too bright.
Then stop complaining. You want your settings low, but don't want Minecraft dark. Find a graphics tunning program you can modify the gamma settings for on a application-by-application basis, and have it set Java's gamma settings higher. But don't go around saying the game is too dark because you intentionally have your monitor too dark.
It's somehow funny that some peoples say to stop "complaining" in a thread that are actually about a complain.
If your compter is great, GREAT!!! There's no problem with that.
Everything that will be said here does'nt eliminate the fact that some monitors just can't have a proper brightness. It's a fact. There's a huge variety of monitor in the market, with all different prices and quality. It's sure that some of them dont have the proper parameters, even if we set their brightness and their gamma at the top.
I'm sure everyone here agree with that. If not, it's probably that you can already see properly and you dont care about this.
Anyone thinking these people asking for a darkness adjustment are just "complainers" are morons. All monitors are slightly different and show "dark" or "blacks" differently. To readjust your entire monitor just to play 1 game is stupid. That's why just about every game made in the last 5 years I've played lets you adjust those settings. It's not unreasonable to ask for the adjustment.
It's not that peoples are asking to be able to do something for the game to be easyer. It seems that a large number of peoples dont have the same gameplay in the same game. Some peoples can see about 20 blocs, some can hardly see after 4 blocks. And the problem is not the game, it's the types of monitors. So a brightness bar is the most logic solution for the game to be the same in all monitor. Like that, eveyone will be satified.
In my honest opinion, I don't really care whether or not it's too dark. And besides, IRL people plant lights all around the city for a reason don't you think? There were places in spain where it's basically impossible to go through at night without having proper lighting, so I don't really think it's unrealistic at all.
Yes, I'm one of the people that place torches and eternally burning wood all around the place.
I've seen the game on different monitors. It's ridiculous. Some people can see far mountains at night. I can't see three squares. I went into my nVidia settings and turned up the gamma for the desktop settings, and now I can see ridiculously far. You can change your nVidia graphics to go from 2 blocks to seeing mountains. That's wrong.
Having had enough computer graphics in college, I can say, the lighting is done wrongly. It's tweaking the damned gamma up and down for night and day but gamma on different screens is very significantly different, LCDs will go completely dark under this scheme because typically the definition in the grays are weak. It needs to be consistent between all players. At night the mountains should not even be available for viewing. It shouldn't be that I just can't see two meters. It should be that something like ten meters away should be unable to be seen regardless what I turn my brightness to. The darkness should be like the fog. It should turn things black at a reasonable distance. It shouldn't tweak the contrast so one player can run home at night and another has to build a tower because two blocks away there could be a zombie and it wouldn't be seen.
If you have too much darkness, turn up your gamma. It's pathetic how far these people can see. It's like daylight at night. And they are claiming we're complaining too much. But it's 2 blocks max. Sure you navigated home at night, I can't tell if I'm facing up or down. There's as much information in night as in day, depending on your gamma correction. That's wrong. It's not that the game is too dark, it's that the game looks completely different for different people.
Yes, same as Norway, where i am from.
I believe Minecraft is based more or less on Sweden, witch will be about the same as Norway and Finland.
Some areas on the world may have better light from the moon at night time, but usually it is rather dark up here in the cold countries in the north of Europe.
but giving it a little more light so you can...I dunno...walk from point a to point b at night would be nice. And how does it change anything? You'll actually be able to see the thing chopping you to peices, as opposed to not able to tell whats hitting you from where?
Spend some time outside for petes sake, under a full moon you can do yardwork, hell...ever hear of the harvest moon? That's why it was called that, because they freaking worked all night in the fields! Under a new moon, yes...it gets very dark. But last I checked, minecraft has a full moon floating in the sky, and we should at least be navigate, if not work. (With monsters!)
And before you get all "calibrate your monitor", I'm a graphic artist, both print and web. I keep two monitors on hand, one with a warm light, one cool light, just so I can see how things will display for people with different monitors. These monitors are properly calibrated (Or as properly as is possible) and the cool lcd display has a brightness of 300 cc/m2. On neither of these monitors can you see ANYTHING outside without torches. You cannot navigate from point a to point b, unless you can see torches at the destination. (In which case, you are still going to get caught up on terrain, and jump like a blind fool trying to navigate your way to that light source, since you can't tell if you are walking on dirt, rock, or about to walk into water, or a hole in the ground. It's flat out stupid dark, and I agree, it detracts from the game as a whole.
It should be dark, but dark is not pitch black.
edit:
I'm begining to think there is something funky going on here. People saying they can see the shadow of a tree at night? Dark being the bottom of a cave with no torches? For me the only difference between the cave with no torches and night time is that I can see stars. Nothing is illuminated at ALL. pitch black.
On the supposition that this is a graphics card issue, I'm on ATI 4850, latest drivers.
I propose we list if we can see or not, and list what brand card we are using. See if there is a correlation there.
That doesnt make any sense... you still view the video on your own monitor. So unless they have hacked the client or something, you should be able to see just as much when you play the game yourself.
Try downloading the exe, and running it in full screen.
Or try resetting your monitors every setting, back to fabric settings.
You could also try lowering the red and blue colors to about 85%, while leaving the green at 100%, might work with red as well.
I know that you said in the first post that turning up the brightness won't work for YOU, but It worked fine for me.
Hitting 'F' a couple more times fixed it for me. Of course, this might not be your problem, but if you are getting no light at all, then it probably is.
No. There's nothing wrong with my display settings. They're exactly how I want them. If anything they're a little too bright. I tried turning the brightness down just so my eyes wouldn't strain. This was fine on my computer, and in other games, but the moment I went in Minecraft and saw night-time I reverted it, because it made night time pitch black and basically unplayable when night time came around.
Other than just increasing brightness during night-time, how about a little more creative solution?
Moon-phases. If there's a full moon it shouldn't be this dark, on a new moon it'd be probably as dark as it is now, and an added effect is that you couldn't tell what time it was at night by looking up at the moon.
Just an idea.
Then stop complaining. You want your settings low, but don't want Minecraft dark. Find a graphics tunning program you can modify the gamma settings for on a application-by-application basis, and have it set Java's gamma settings higher. But don't go around saying the game is too dark because you intentionally have your monitor too dark.
If your compter is great, GREAT!!! There's no problem with that.
Everything that will be said here does'nt eliminate the fact that some monitors just can't have a proper brightness. It's a fact. There's a huge variety of monitor in the market, with all different prices and quality. It's sure that some of them dont have the proper parameters, even if we set their brightness and their gamma at the top.
I'm sure everyone here agree with that. If not, it's probably that you can already see properly and you dont care about this.
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I personally like it dark. Reminds me of everquest 1 lol
also if torches emitted light while being held it would also go a long way.
Yes, I'm one of the people that place torches and eternally burning wood all around the place.
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Having had enough computer graphics in college, I can say, the lighting is done wrongly. It's tweaking the damned gamma up and down for night and day but gamma on different screens is very significantly different, LCDs will go completely dark under this scheme because typically the definition in the grays are weak. It needs to be consistent between all players. At night the mountains should not even be available for viewing. It shouldn't be that I just can't see two meters. It should be that something like ten meters away should be unable to be seen regardless what I turn my brightness to. The darkness should be like the fog. It should turn things black at a reasonable distance. It shouldn't tweak the contrast so one player can run home at night and another has to build a tower because two blocks away there could be a zombie and it wouldn't be seen.
If you have too much darkness, turn up your gamma. It's pathetic how far these people can see. It's like daylight at night. And they are claiming we're complaining too much. But it's 2 blocks max. Sure you navigated home at night, I can't tell if I'm facing up or down. There's as much information in night as in day, depending on your gamma correction. That's wrong. It's not that the game is too dark, it's that the game looks completely different for different people.
//LCD 22 inch widescreen.
It does not matter if some people can see mountains while others can barely see what's in front of them.
You shouldn't be roaming about at night without torches, in case the monsters and lack of light didn't tip you off to that.
Unless you can't see WITH torches, the darkness doesn't matter.