I don't even see why noclip is necessary for anything except for griefing. It doesn't help with anything except for cheating. WoM should have really thought this out before they created the hacks.
It has a few applications, but this is one of very few instances where I say the potential for griefing outweighs the small amount of good it could do.
Here is how useful each hack is to griefers, imho: noclip > speed > flight > minimap/compass
A good griefer would use a minimap to make sure he wasn't being watched or followed, as well as to make sure no-one was too close to him before he starts smashing.
im fine with speed hack and flying hack, but there should definately be some sort of server detection to make sure players arent going through blocks. that would stop noclip, block replacement, AND sand hack.
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there is no noclip in the newest versions of the wom hacks. that means they can't get out of spawn jail.
I think it's time for people to stop complaining about hacks
Noclip has helped me in the past, but considering how I have options to do what I did through alternate means, then the helpfulness of it is moot. Unlike flying and speed which are just as good as they are abused, noclip has not helped terribly much for the harm it has done. Still this point is moot as noclip now only works on WoM servers. That is, until somebody else makes a noclip hack independent of WoM.
As I stated somewhere else on this forum, people are always going to cheat/hack. Its human nature to take the easy path sometimes. Blizzard has spent millions developing Warden, has teams of programmers combating the new hacks as they appear, and still people are hacking. Same is said for Sony with Everquest. You are not going to stop the hackers so you best option is to make it so people don't need to hack. I use the WoM client because I enjoy flying, full screen play, and the run speed boost. So why not add those ingame? Disabling hacks won't stop the griefers, proper anti griefing tools will, at least, lower the amount of it. Allow the hacks, but also allow the server owner to turn on/off particular ones. Using myself as an example, if I ever did want to play on a public server, odds are that after logging into that server and seeing I can't do certain things, I doubt I'm gonna log out just to enable WoM cheats and come back to play. Most likely if some of them cheats are enabled, I'd just stay in the game.
It seems it's possible to actually hack the wrapper itself and override that stuff. I witnessed someone with a client that does this on Underd0g's custom server just a couple days ago (not naming any names, though). O.o;
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It has a few applications, but this is one of very few instances where I say the potential for griefing outweighs the small amount of good it could do.
Here is how useful each hack is to griefers, imho: noclip > speed > flight > minimap/compass
Quality of output = Skill * Effort
A good griefer would use a minimap to make sure he wasn't being watched or followed, as well as to make sure no-one was too close to him before he starts smashing.
Some maps can take several minutes to traverse. Not torture, but why put yourself through it when you can be there near instantly?
I think it's time for people to stop complaining about hacks
also maybe get OPs or Admins "Wings" giving them the ability to fly without a hack
I asked notch about adding a 'fetch' ability, he said he isn't going to add it.
Former #minecraft channel operator.
OP's hack only? Bananas!. Just monitor your server and you'll be alright. We both know you just want hacks and are making a reason to get them.
Run? You are running. It's a regular block guy, remember?
No-noclip? Meh. Perhaps No-noclip in Admin-Blocks.
Speed? For things like opening spawns? Get another account- run it in a different tab. Set a spawn point using return. You know. That one by ".
wth is sand hack?!
Minimap isn't a big deal. That's like saying that no fog would ruin the game.
Yes. I went up the page and bashed this discussion.
Stop fearing griefers. Watch the spawn jail.
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Everything else I agree with, except No-Noclip. Noclip has no creative use, we don't need it.
Quality of output = Skill * Effort
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