I loved it. I thought I was decent at shipbuilding, but with your tips I might could become great at shipbuilding. Kudos to ya, and contrats on a fabulous wall of text.
Looking good Gaz. Glad to see that building it with the ribs made it a bit easier to get a good hull shape. It's a shame about the lack of editing tools. I'm pretty sure that's taken you longer than any of my hulls have taken, because with World Edit I don't have to worry about the water and I can build one side and then copy and paste. Perhaps your pirates have taken a good haul and their ship's low in the water because of all the booty?
Thanks mate. This really helped alot in being able to make own ships, by giving basic tools on how to build certain parts and not making it a block-by-block tutorial. Definitely the most comprehensive and detailed ship building guide I've ever seen on the net.
Thanks!
Cheers. It's nice to hear that because that's the idea I was going for. I figure that if I'd just produced some Ikea ship instructions then people would be able to build it - but they wouldn't learn anything about building ships. They'd just follow the instructions and put each block where they were told.
This way - so long as I've got the balance right - there should be good enough information for even a novice to build something that looks good while learning about how to do things and why. It's the knowing why and having to think about things that will make somebody into a good shipbuilder.
I've updated the first post. I realised it was so long that the headings needed to be a bit bigger and bolder to break it up! Some general refining, and some images of one of my larger ships in the hull section to hopefully show some of the standard hull features a bit more clearly than they appear on the frigate.
Beautiful guide... I hadn't even thought about the tumblehome before... it's actually a great way to maximize interior space, too! My ships are rarely deep enough to have more than two decks, so I'll have to get used to that... and my first attempt at rigging looks like... well, like a first attempt. XD Your guide has definately given me some new ideas to work with!
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...actually, created is a bit much.... Thought of. That's more accurate.
Beautiful guide... I hadn't even thought about the tumblehome before... it's actually a great way to maximize interior space, too! My ships are rarely deep enough to have more than two decks, so I'll have to get used to that... and my first attempt at rigging looks like... well, like a first attempt. XD Your guide has definately given me some new ideas to work with!
Giving new ideas is just what I wanted to do. Good to hear that they're useful!
I will link your tutorial in my creative building tutorial.
I just had a look, I like your thread. We seem to have followed the same philosophy of teaching people to build rather than giving out block by block instructions. I wish more people would do it this way.
I'm flattered that you've linked to this tutorial.
I finally finished my ship. :3 I wont bother you anymore xD
You weren't bothering me - this is the first time I've noticed that anybody's been posting in the thread recently. It's looking good, and I'm glad that I could help.
As for putting more details in... I've gone back and done that many times already! It's hard to tell from my point of view just how much information people need to follow this. And like I've said before I'm not particularly bothered if people can't copy my exact ship - because I'm more interested in showing people how to build ships rather than simply copying mine. The methods can be used to build any sailing ship, and hopefully somebody who follows this through will be able to have a stab at other types of ship.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Tips on design?
I suppose for a river boat the main differences are that they don't need to be constructed as sturdily as ocean-going vessels and that they will usually have a shallow draught so they can sail in shallow channels. That would often mean a fairly flat bottom of the hull and keel.
It's a little bit difficult for me to follow tutorials without either a direct explanation (i.e: first place 7 block, then go up two yada yada yada)
Whoops, messed up and didn't finish. As I was saying, it's a little bit difficult for me to follow tutorials without either a direct explanation (i.e: first place 7 block, then go up two yada yada yada) or a video/picture tutorial. Could you please post a video tutorial? Ich kann nicht folgen Spiegeln Führung ohne Umklappen Video / Spiegeln Bild Führung ARGH!!!
In reply, I don't have any screen recording software installed, and I don't have much free time right now, so I'm afraid I won't be doing a video.
And as to exact instructions, I prefer not to do that. If I give flatpack furniture style instructions, people will just build my exact ship. Folks would end up with good looking ships, but wouldn't learn much about actually building ships. They'd just copy without thinking about anything, and I wouldn't call that a tutorial. That's IKEA instructions. I want people to think about what they're building and why they're building it. Hopefully they should come out with something similar to my ship, but most importantly they should have a good idea of how to build ships.
hey, I have been building ships for a lil while, and I have seen some really mice work, but if you want to use a mod on it. make smaller ships. wha I mean is to have less blocks on the ship.
plus I have a challenge for you, you have to build a ship known as HMS Sovereign of the Seas ( Royal Sovereign ) that was built in the 17th centry, and was actually the first ship ever to have 4 sails on a mast and also the first to have three gun decks. heres the pic of the hull.
Hello! Yes, I do still exist. Sorry folks, I've been away from home for work for the last 6 months, which has meant I haven't been able to play any minecraft. And because I haven't been playing I haven't been checking the forums or keeping up with the news. So I haven't been ignoring anybody on purpose.
Sovereign of the Seas is a bit of a legendary ship among us afficionados. I think you're the second person who's suggested I build her. I might do so at some point, but at the moment I'm more interested in building ships from the dreadnought era. And when I get back to sailing ships, I've got a few in mind that I want to fit in with my fleet...
Hi ConfuseACat, thanks for the awesome guide, it has really helped me out! Just one thing I might be able to help with
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Good stuff. Yeah, I approached it with vectors because I've got an engineering/physics background rather than practical sailing. When I get around to it, I'll do a bit of an edit to put some or your information in - or maybe a suggestion to read your post for more info!
And thanks for the tip about using sand. That makes so much sense, and I'm a bit embarrassed that I didn't think of it!
I just recently returned home for good after being away for work, which gives me more time for shipbuilding again, and last night I was working on an early 20th century armoured cruiser, a replica of HMS Minotaur (1906)
Somebody over in my Shipyard thread asked me if I would consider expanding this tutorial with a dreadnought style ship, and I took plenty of screenshots as I went along. So I may well do another one of these tutorials for that. Would that be useful to people?
Cheers. It's nice to hear that because that's the idea I was going for. I figure that if I'd just produced some Ikea ship instructions then people would be able to build it - but they wouldn't learn anything about building ships. They'd just follow the instructions and put each block where they were told.
This way - so long as I've got the balance right - there should be good enough information for even a novice to build something that looks good while learning about how to do things and why. It's the knowing why and having to think about things that will make somebody into a good shipbuilder.
...actually, created is a bit much.... Thought of. That's more accurate.
Giving new ideas is just what I wanted to do. Good to hear that they're useful!
I just had a look, I like your thread. We seem to have followed the same philosophy of teaching people to build rather than giving out block by block instructions. I wish more people would do it this way.
I'm flattered that you've linked to this tutorial.
You weren't bothering me - this is the first time I've noticed that anybody's been posting in the thread recently. It's looking good, and I'm glad that I could help.
As for putting more details in... I've gone back and done that many times already! It's hard to tell from my point of view just how much information people need to follow this. And like I've said before I'm not particularly bothered if people can't copy my exact ship - because I'm more interested in showing people how to build ships rather than simply copying mine. The methods can be used to build any sailing ship, and hopefully somebody who follows this through will be able to have a stab at other types of ship.
I'm not a fan of vanilla myself, but here she is.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Tips on design?
I suppose for a river boat the main differences are that they don't need to be constructed as sturdily as ocean-going vessels and that they will usually have a shallow draught so they can sail in shallow channels. That would often mean a fairly flat bottom of the hull and keel.
I'm not sure what else I could say.
In reply, I don't have any screen recording software installed, and I don't have much free time right now, so I'm afraid I won't be doing a video.
And as to exact instructions, I prefer not to do that. If I give flatpack furniture style instructions, people will just build my exact ship. Folks would end up with good looking ships, but wouldn't learn much about actually building ships. They'd just copy without thinking about anything, and I wouldn't call that a tutorial. That's IKEA instructions. I want people to think about what they're building and why they're building it. Hopefully they should come out with something similar to my ship, but most importantly they should have a good idea of how to build ships.
Hello! Yes, I do still exist. Sorry folks, I've been away from home for work for the last 6 months, which has meant I haven't been able to play any minecraft. And because I haven't been playing I haven't been checking the forums or keeping up with the news. So I haven't been ignoring anybody on purpose.
Sovereign of the Seas is a bit of a legendary ship among us afficionados. I think you're the second person who's suggested I build her. I might do so at some point, but at the moment I'm more interested in building ships from the dreadnought era. And when I get back to sailing ships, I've got a few in mind that I want to fit in with my fleet...
Good stuff. Yeah, I approached it with vectors because I've got an engineering/physics background rather than practical sailing. When I get around to it, I'll do a bit of an edit to put some or your information in - or maybe a suggestion to read your post for more info!
And thanks for the tip about using sand. That makes so much sense, and I'm a bit embarrassed that I didn't think of it!
I just recently returned home for good after being away for work, which gives me more time for shipbuilding again, and last night I was working on an early 20th century armoured cruiser, a replica of HMS Minotaur (1906)
Somebody over in my Shipyard thread asked me if I would consider expanding this tutorial with a dreadnought style ship, and I took plenty of screenshots as I went along. So I may well do another one of these tutorials for that. Would that be useful to people?