Everyone in the community has been INCREDIBLY PATIENT, waiting and hoping and praying that 4J will heed there words and actually spend some time on the things that everyone is asking for! And to me the mob cap issue is just another dagger in the back and even more proof of what i have said many many times over many threads on this forum. 4J doesn't give a hoot about What the community is asking for. This mob Cap issue has been brought up from day 1 and has popped up many times on many threads and has 4J ever done anything about it? NOPE, even though pretty much EVERYONE Has asked for this. They have proven over the past few years and especially this year that they Spend 95% of There Time ON MONEY ONLY Features/ AKA Skin,texture,mash up, packs.
And i am going to tell you all another thing i am sick of. The people on here that don't even try to understand why so many of us in the console community are upset. if your one of those people listen up! YES we Realize that we don't have to pay money for the actual game updates (the 1 we hopefully get every 12 months). But what you fail to understand is people are not stupid. EVERYONE including my self is constantly looking around and seeing all of these great things minecraft is doing on all the other platforms that are ran by mojang. you look at MCPE which only a few months ago Received a GAME CHANGING UPDATE for the MOBILE VERSION. They managed to add in a tremendous amount of really great and HIGHLY REQUESTED items from the community. Seriously click on this link and look at everything they managed to add. http://minecraftpocketedition.wikia.com/wiki/Update_0.12.1 now heres the best part. They Managed to Release 11.0 in june (a large update alone) then 12 in September (A GAME CHANGING UPDATE) and guess what! now as in RIGHT NOW, they just opened up the beta for testing of 13! which adds in THE REDSTONE MECHANICS BLOCKS AND FEATURES!. This is absolutely incredible work from mojang and really shows what a company can do when it isn't worried about making a ton of money on ENDLESS AND not NOT NEEDED packs of every kind.
Then there is PC which hasn't released updates as often as they used to. But DO NOT FORGET that the guys working on these updates are not just recoding existing material for another platform! These Guys are on the bleeding edge of minecraft! They don't have any written roads or rules to follow. They have to deal with making brand new content for the game that not only makes sense and is cool but also and most importantly wont ruin the game or deviate to far from what its known and loved for! so to me it's totally understandable that these updates wouldn't come out every few months. The Sad part is that even though they have to make all brand new content they still often release these major and game changing updates more often then 4J can recode the old content.
SO, Mojang can Re-code and make new updates about 4 x faster than 4J can while doing it for EVEN MORE platforms and devices that span the crazy world of Smart phones, Tablets, media players Etc. Again my hats are off to them for the awesome content of these updates and the amazing speed of them coming out.
For PC, again Mojang you guys are awesome. not only for introducing awesome new content but doing your best to make it fast, less buggy and and fitting for MineCraft. There is a genuine feel of concern to get things right and we appreciate that immensely.
And to 4J Studios i am not a mean and hateful person and i REALLY WANTED TO be a huge fan of yours but the Facts are undeniable. You fail to fix or put too little effort into fixing the most highly requested issues by the community. People have put SOO MUCH Hard Work and time in their worlds only for the world delete Glitch to claim victim after victim. That should have been Caught. The mob cap is another perfect example as said before. And the way you all go about updating the game is abysmal. You give 0 information, you don't release snap shots for us to help you test, and you certainly don't put very much man power behind this stuff as well. All your time is spent in PAID DLC. And i understand your a business enjoying making tons of money off us, just know that you go about your business in a very poor and unhealthy way. It breeds problems and uncertainty in the community and makes us feel like you don't give a Crud about us. Have you guys ever stopped to read the comments people leave on your twitter pages ect.? 1 out of every 2 is people begging for information on glitches getting fixed or if we will ever see another update and tons more.
The best way i can put it to you is like this. I and many others in the community see how green the grass is for The pc players and the Pocket edition players/windows 10. The problem you have 4J is that people are seeing all of the great things going on and happening for everyone else not on a console. and i know i am always asking myself Why are we ALWAYS the UGLY stepchild? How come Mojang Takes such awesome Care of its community While 4J just keeps sucking money out of our pockets For endless paid DLC? How come mojang address's serious issues faster than 4J can even notice them? Point is all people want here is to be treated with some respect and made to feel like you appreciate our business. I have bought Almost ALL of your DLC 4J and even though i continue to support you guys i feel like you could give a crap less about investing in our relationship. And doesn't it ever cross your guys minds that Even though you don't directly make money on the update itself, That you are INVESTING in your own products future! You will be making your product more and more interesting and entertaining which leads to more and more SALES OF THE GAME ITSELF!
Lastly- NO TROLLS ALLOWED.... This is a perfectly Honest Opinion and i am entitled to one just like you. If you disagree feel free to post back, but i don't want any thing like "your just a baby and have no patience". Be a Big Boy and give Reasoning and evidence to support your self. JUST LIKE I DID. Thanks
Fact: I never said the word EVERYONE. My title says "owners LIKE ME" which implies:( those that feel the same or similar to me).
I want 4J and people like you to wake up and smell the coffee. Things are as bleak as ever for console edition owners. 4J Needs to Change there Strategy and fast if they want to continue to have any happy customers at all. And i am pretty sure my above post indicates exactly and SPECIFICALLY why that is.
Lastly everyone deserves to know Just how awesome a job MOJANG is doing taking care of there respective communities. Why is it fair for the console community to get 4J shoved down our throats whether we like it or not? Why do we have to slug it out with some greedy company that only cares about making endless PAID DLC? Why is it that Everywhere i look in the world of minecraft it's almost entirely great news of all sort, While here on console it's either bad news or none at all? IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS WAY for only Console users. All you have to do is open your tunnel visioned eyes and see That when you compare Mojang's community and its treatment to 4J's .....There is no comparison.
and everyone being divided and standing alone wont get any change thats sorely needed. stand together and we have a much better shot at getting some of the respect we deserve as paying customers.
Needs more SHOUTING and Random capitalization. I doubt your sincerity.
YES we Realize that we don't have to pay money for the actual game updates (the 1 we hopefully get every 12 months).
Also known as, 11 updates since January 2015.
Bizarre formatting and hyperbole aside, the small nugget of a point is reasonable. It is mildly irritating to see several skin packs and mashups in a row, when the console version is about 3 point releases behind PC. That said, I know enough to understand that the add-on pack devs are likely a separate team from the core game devs, and so serialization of releases is not required. That is, 4J isn't working on add-ons instead of core updates, but likely in addition to. So...mildly irritating; not worth wearing out my caps-lock key.
I am happy with things so far but definitely excited about the next update. And yes, addmitedly a little impatient. Still we should be at 1.8 which is great and hopefully makes up for the long wait.
Secretly still hoping for some sort of world expansion to accompany the update. I have left areas unexplored but we keep creeping out just a little further every time. If the update is too much longer we might not have much unexplored area left.
OT I know how you feel. These threads keep popping up about how dissatisfacory the recent updates have been. The big question here is what do
you expect will change? None of the devs come here just 4Jsteve and that user has had a ton of bashing already. But what really honestly can
change? If console caught up with pc tomorrow, how much of a difference would it really make?
I know a bunch of people don't even want the update because they have invested so much time on a seed that will become null when tu31 releases.
I also know plenty of people do not really care about what is missing. You really think adding in x amount of features will actually make the game any
more interesting? Like it will somehow restore the entertainment experience? For how long? How many times will you cut down an acacia tree before
it becomes just another tree? How many times can you skip across a ice spikes biome before it is just another biome?
As for mob cap, it will not happen until 4J stop updating pre-gen consoles and I can tell you, porting Java to C++ is not by any means easy. Then you also
have ps3 and vita with whatever out of date OS those systems use. I don't know what type of OS PS4 uses but coding must be pretty difficult as well.
The major key thing here is that 4J is restricted to the amount of features in each update, as much as I hate saying it. 4J is bound by an agreement with
Microsoft is looking to make that investment back with mobile versions MCPE and the one specific to blackberry thus the reason why it has seen a recent
jumpstart in updates. People knew what they were missing so Mojang started to oblige in the interest of Microsoft. Not that this is a bad thing. Just for casual gamers minecraft PE becomes a game played during down time while pc remains the top dog. Console version was simply to milk the investment.
But that does not mean console gamers go without... entirely. The objective is to drive players to PE or PC. That is the unfortunate truth.
How many times can a brush spread paint across a canvas before all the possible creativity is used up?
It's the second time you use this argument, and I thought I should speak up about it. The sandbox has near-infinite possibilities. Running out of creative ideas is not going to be an issue.
As for your tech arguments, I agree that keeping the old-gen versions in lockstep with the new is a problem. They really need to separate at some point. But once a world is fleshed out, it doesn't matter if the seed generator changes. That won't change an existing, fully explored world. Not even the biomes will be affected anymore, since they are now saved with their worlds. (They should have been from the beginning.) If a player wants to take a world in separate directions without having to go through the seed generator, he can always copy his world to other files before modifying it.
The PS4 and the XONE are very nearly the same system. They use the same double-Jaguar CPU/GPU X86 architecture. The PS4 has faster memory and 50% more compute units in the GPU. The XONE has 10% faster CPU speed and an extra small static-memory cache embedded on the chip to speed some things along. It's perfectly possible to use the same programming code on both, before system-specific optimizations and limit pushing.
For all practical purposes, Mojang is Microsoft now. They are wholly owned by MS. They were allowed to stay in Stockholm and keep their company culture to try to preserve the magic presumably worth $2.5 billion US. But make no mistake about it: they are an arm, and Microsoft is the brain.
The console versions of Minecraft, beginning with the 360's, were deals between an independent Mojang and 4J. Microsoft was all too happy to cozy up to them once the 360 version succeeded beyond anyone's imagination.
If it's the mob cap issue, what would be your desired limits for Mob Caps, what you would like to see?
Are you more concerned with Passive or Hostile? What would be your new limits?
Without being judgmental with against your argument, you really have suggested nothing, other than to say they need to be increased.
Secondly, updates, as you are aware, or should be 4j are working on the next "big" update, which based on the released screenshots should put Minecraft console on par with PC (albeit once 1.9 comes out there will be a gap again.), so would you like to see console exclusives? What else would you like to see, give us some details.
The brush and canvas already exist. Question is, if you are already bored with painting then how can you expect further inspiration by adding a few more colors? I understand that one can simply map out an entire world to prevent changes in the biomes but with the cloud malfunctioning and deleting saves or corrupting them, based on what I have read. I know a bunch of us are upset with the updates but it seems a:there is really nothing we can do about it. b: We are getting at least a few 1.8 features and a handful of 1.7 features based on what has been confirmed. and c:I do know for a fact that Microsoft is looking to make back their investment largely through MCPE which means they have to try to drive gamers to that platform. Many may not even own a smartphone or tablet which is where that extra bit of marketing comes in.
As far as the rest is concerned it just feels pointless to keep digging at it. We have the game and that is all. That is the amount of control we have as an entire community. Beyond that, there is nothing we can do. That much has become evident to me. As for console exclusives, it will never happen. Console only has a few small exclusives and the big one was already ported to PC which was the ender dragon battle. The only useable exclusive console has
is the automatic crafting and Mojang had already said that they want to port that over as well.
Exclusives will remain on PC and PE as a marketing gimmick and considering PE is only about $7, who would pass that up? Not to mention all the awesome updates as well.