We all know how to make an infinite water source. 2x2x1 hole, put 2 buckets of water in 2 corners opposite of one another. But this doesn't work with lava, as I'm sure we all are aware of.
But why? What is different about Water to Lava in minecraft? They seem to both have the same characteristics, the only thing lava differs from water is not being able to make it an infinite source block.
1.) The colour/texture
2.) Distance they travel
3.) Speed they travel that distance
4.) Water can be used to transport items, lava can be used to dispose of items.
There's quite a few differences however I still don't understand why we cant have unlimited lava sources, the same as water.
Ty Captin Obvious, but I don't mean the physical or cosmetic differences.
Its because Lava is more valuable of a resource than water. Lava can be used to smelt and to make obsidian, so if they let it re-source itself, it would mean easy infinate Obsidian and smelting of ore.
Steve (?, might have been dinnerbone) has even said that if MCXBLA ever becomes competitive, they'll need to figure out how to plug the obsidian dup bug to ensure it's fair....
Lava may not be infinite (other than resetting the nether) but it may as well be. There is so much of it that I can't imagine ever running out. It's not just that there are seas of it in the nether. (There is that.) If you do any mining deep down at all, you'll run into huge amounts of it. Many lakes. I created a storage area which consists of 6-high pillars of lava source blocks separated by glass pillars and ladders on stone pillars (so I can walk through the empty storage sections). I've been expanding it for weeks, and it's growing fast. I've been collecting it in buckets and dumping it into the storage. Even so, I keep running into the scorching stuff every few mining branches. I've stored up hundreds of blocks, and I'm getting tired of it. I have no earthly use for that much lava. I just felt wasteful filling it in with sand while mining (which destroys it). But enough is enough. Back to filling it in with sand after I use up what's left of my storage volume. I'm not expanding it any more.
Ty Captin Obvious, but I don't mean the physical or cosmetic differences.
you said their are no differences. they pointed out there are quite a few.to add to the list it sets things on fired and an infinite lava source could end in a world covered with obsidian by accident. also imagine trying to get rid of lava underground with all infinite source blocks. there are a few reasons when you think about it, 1 its a commodity 2. its dangerous. lets not even bring up the field day griefers could have with infinite lava. .
To be fair, getting rid of lava lakes underground is accomplished the same way as getting rid of water lakes underground (or anywhere): fill them in with sand or gravel, then scoop it back out if you want the hole intact. The infinite-ness of water when scooped one bucket at a time out of lakes doesn't stop this approach from working.
I never thought of lava being finite because of griefing potential. Frankly, it still has plenty of use as that, for truly mischievous minds.
Lava doesn't need to be infinite.
Infinite lava springs would allow unlimited smelting and this rending Coal and Blaze Rods useless for such tasks.
And as said before, it could be used in the same way as water: create a right angle and flood a heap of stuff--way too griefy.
This^^^ - I also think there may be much more lava in worlds upon generation if right angles were all that was required to make infinite source blocks initially generate.
To be fair, getting rid of lava lakes underground is accomplished the same way as getting rid of water lakes underground (or anywhere): fill them in with sand or gravel, then scoop it back out if you want the hole intact. The infinite-ness of water when scooped one bucket at a time out of lakes doesn't stop this approach from working.
I never thought of lava being finite because of griefing potential. Frankly, it still has plenty of use as that, for truly mischievous minds.
yea until you dig out the sand and it starts refilling itself because you missed a few blocks that where under walls. when this happens with water you just swim up pop some blocks in the holes.... when this happens with lava you die a fiery horrific death. but yea it wouldn't have much affect on the fill technique but it could still make some problems. but the amount of lava underground could be drastically increased if it could generate source blocks
Forgot you can smelt with blaze rods...
Is coal still the best smelting resource or does
blaze rod beat it?
Your choice:
Blaze rods do 12 items each, coal does 8
The supply of blaze rods is endless, coal is non-renewable.
Killing blazes gives more XP than mining coal
Blazes can be found without moving around looking for them and are readily killed once you build your blaze trap. Coal, on the other hand, doesn't normally shoot fire balls at you or fight back.
Blaze rods do 12 items each, coal does 8
The supply of blaze rods is endless, coal is non-renewable.
Killing blazes gives more XP than mining coal
Blazes can be found without moving around looking for them and are readily killed once you build your blaze trap. Coal, on the other hand, doesn't normally shoot fire balls at you or fight back.
I was never the greatest blaze slayer...A trap huh? Well how effective is a blaze trap?
Depending on how you make in it could be very effective. as a xp farm and blaze rod farm, since blazes only drop rods when killed by the player. I would recommend a farm by ethoslabs for a rather large, but effective farm. on the flip side if you are going for speed(in building only) then look up generikB's "geto" farm
Question regarding infinite lava, can you make a lava pool that constantly regenerates itself and if so how many blocks are needed (i.e. 8x8 filled with all Lava Source blocks).
Question regarding infinite lava, can you make a lava pool that constantly regenerates itself and if so how many blocks are needed (i.e. 8x8 filled with all Lava Source blocks).
Ummm... you haven't actually read this thread, have you? The answer to your question is right in the title. No, you cannot. The OP is aksing "Why not?"
Ummm... you haven't actually read this thread, have you? The answer to your question is right in the title. No, you cannot. The OP is aksing "Why not?"
Ummmmm I have. Before you sprout obnoxious posts, sit back and think about the question and whats implied. The OP asked about creating an infinite lava source using the cross method that works with water. Again, you come across as obnoxious, maybe you should think before you post.
Anyways, for the more mature readers: a lava lake is an infinite source of Lava correct? My question is basically asking, how much lava does it take to make a lava lake?
Ummmmm I have. Before you sprout obnoxious posts, sit back and think about the question and whats implied. The OP asked about creating an infinite lava source using the cross method that works with water. Again, you come across as obnoxious, maybe you should think before you post.
Anyways, for the more mature readers: a lava lake is an infinite source of Lava correct? My question is basically asking, how much lava does it take to make a lava lake?
umm. no the op is asking why cant we make an infinite lava pool period. he just mentioned the method used for water wondering what the differences between the 2 were. perhaps you should work on your comprehension before calling someone else obnoxious
and to point out no "lava lake" is infinite no mater how many source blocks there are, they are always finite.
But why? What is different about Water to Lava in minecraft? They seem to both have the same characteristics, the only thing lava differs from water is not being able to make it an infinite source block.
Ty Captin Obvious, but I don't mean the physical or cosmetic differences.
It's the infinite water trick that's a bug (that they decided to leave in).
Infinite lava springs would allow unlimited smelting and this rending Coal and Blaze Rods useless for such tasks.
And as said before, it could be used in the same way as water: create a right angle and flood a heap of stuff--way too griefy.
Stay fluffy~
you said their are no differences. they pointed out there are quite a few.to add to the list it sets things on fired and an infinite lava source could end in a world covered with obsidian by accident. also imagine trying to get rid of lava underground with all infinite source blocks. there are a few reasons when you think about it, 1 its a commodity 2. its dangerous. lets not even bring up the field day griefers could have with infinite lava. .
I never thought of lava being finite because of griefing potential. Frankly, it still has plenty of use as that, for truly mischievous minds.
This^^^ - I also think there may be much more lava in worlds upon generation if right angles were all that was required to make infinite source blocks initially generate.
yea until you dig out the sand and it starts refilling itself because you missed a few blocks that where under walls. when this happens with water you just swim up pop some blocks in the holes.... when this happens with lava you die a fiery horrific death. but yea it wouldn't have much affect on the fill technique but it could still make some problems. but the amount of lava underground could be drastically increased if it could generate source blocks
Is coal still the best smelting resource or does
blaze rod beat it?
Your choice:
Blaze rods do 12 items each, coal does 8
The supply of blaze rods is endless, coal is non-renewable.
Killing blazes gives more XP than mining coal
Blazes can be found without moving around looking for them and are readily killed once you build your blaze trap. Coal, on the other hand, doesn't normally shoot fire balls at you or fight back.
I was never the greatest blaze slayer...A trap huh? Well how effective is a blaze trap?
If you can understand that your awesome!
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Ummm... you haven't actually read this thread, have you? The answer to your question is right in the title. No, you cannot. The OP is aksing "Why not?"
Ummmmm I have. Before you sprout obnoxious posts, sit back and think about the question and whats implied. The OP asked about creating an infinite lava source using the cross method that works with water. Again, you come across as obnoxious, maybe you should think before you post.
Anyways, for the more mature readers: a lava lake is an infinite source of Lava correct? My question is basically asking, how much lava does it take to make a lava lake?
umm. no the op is asking why cant we make an infinite lava pool period. he just mentioned the method used for water wondering what the differences between the 2 were. perhaps you should work on your comprehension before calling someone else obnoxious
and to point out no "lava lake" is infinite no mater how many source blocks there are, they are always finite.