Griefer = Garbage human being. These people are trash not only in Minecraft, but IRL too. There isn't a single one who is a good person in anyway, shape, or form. If I found one IRL, I would beat them to death. No bull.
Well, I suppose even though I am a straight A student, have a girlfriend of 2 years, volunteer at the library and animal shelter, but I grief a bit, I am a bad person despite all of the things I do away from Minecraft. Just take me out back and put me down.
I've never heard of people not playing Minecraft because their world was griefed. Everybody I griefed exited without saving. Maybe your son has a different feeling about not playing Minecraft. Maybe he got too bored of it because the game was too "blocky" and looks outdated. I'm only 12, but I have to say that it's pretty hard to understand 15 year olds.
Yes I'm twelve years old. Your intelligent brains outsmarted me. I'm sound even more stupid now that you know my age. You win...
I also want to add that all griefers all not bullies. All girefers want to be bullies. But, they don't awlays succeed. This can also be applied to the real world. Let's say I grief someone, and the person I grief exits without saving. That person is happy and I'm not a bully since no one got hurt in any way.
Someone please lock this thread! I don't want anymore hate! :'(
No he stopped from that and went to back other games... he spent a allot of time on the map and was very proud of the world and had all his dogs named
Well, I suppose even though I am a straight A student, have a girlfriend of 2 years, volunteer at the library and animal shelter, but I grief a bit, I am a bad person despite all of the things I do away from Minecraft. Just take me out back and put me down.
The ENRON executives were also model citizens on the outside. But just like griefers they were broken as human beings. u r welcome to join our discussion group. if u prefer there is a pizza hut also.
edit: i don't know how old some of u kids are but if are under 25 I may be your daddy so show some respect.
Well, I suppose even though I am a straight A student, have a girlfriend of 2 years, volunteer at the library and animal shelter, but I grief a bit, I am a bad person despite all of the things I do away from Minecraft. Just take me out back and put me down.
Well, I suppose even though I am a straight A student, have a girlfriend of 2 years, volunteer at the library and animal shelter, but I grief a bit, I am a bad person despite all of the things I do away from Minecraft. Just take me out back and put me down.
When you're griefing people and causing them pain... yes, that makes you a person who is behaving badly. Whatever else you do just doesn't negate that.
Well, I suppose even though I am a straight A student, have a girlfriend of 2 years, volunteer at the library and animal shelter, but I grief a bit, I am a bad person despite all of the things I do away from Minecraft. Just take me out back and put me down.
GUESS who in the 1930's was instrumental and/or supported:
1- was a vegetarian
2- created the 'interstate' highway system
3- created the people's car (volkswagen)
4- was an enviromentalist
5- supported gun control
6- was a pioneer in missile technology that lead to space exploration
and I'll bet even he would not be a griefer today.
Exodus 22:1-31
“If a man steals an ox or a sheep, and kills it or sells it, he shall repay five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. If a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no bloodguilt for him, but if the sun has risen on him, there shall be bloodguilt for him. He shall surely pay. If he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. If the stolen beast is found alive in his possession, whether it is an ox or a donkey or a sheep, he shall pay double. “If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed over, or lets his beast loose and it feeds in another man's field, he shall make restitution from the best in his own field and in his own vineyard. ...
Sigh. You guys are missing the point in what I said. I wasn't posting that to try and appear better than everyone else, I was simply putting that what you do in a game doesn't too terribly affect what happens IRL. I also don't grief for sport, I only do it when friends get me upset, or when they grief me. I don't join random people and blow up their stuff. Also, why are you all comparing me to terrible people in history? They were doing totally different things than screwing with people over a video game. If you were to look closer at my post as well, I wasn't saying this to support griefing, I was replying to the butthurt guy saying everyone who griefed was a terrible person and should be beaten.
Sigh. You guys are missing the point in what I said. I wasn't posting that to try and appear better than everyone else, I was simply putting that what you do in a game doesn't too terribly affect what happens IRL. I also don't grief for sport, I only do it when friends get me upset, or when they grief me. I don't join random people and blow up their stuff. Also, why are you all comparing me to terrible people in history? They were doing totally different things than screwing with people over a video game. If you were to look closer at my post as well, I wasn't saying this to support griefing, I was replying to the butthurt guy saying everyone who griefed was a terrible person and should be beaten.
I still have nightmares over things I have witnessed. So waking up from sweat soaked sheets to see my map has been griefed. And that stuff was more than ten years ago. If you are a griefer over 18 and want to grief me I would like to talk to you about that. I live in Leland NC, USA etc. I can give you more specifics but nobody has shown up yet so not interested in traveling too far.
So does greifing hurt anyone? Come see me and we will talk about it.
I still have nightmares over things I have witnessed. So waking up from sweat soaked sheets to see my map has been griefed. And that stuff was more than ten years ago. If you are a griefer over 18 and want to grief me I would like to talk to you about that. I live in Leland NC, USA etc. I can give you more specifics but nobody has shown up yet so not interested in traveling too far.
So does greifing hurt anyone? Come see me and we will talk about it.
Why do you keep repeating that same thing? I don't think you didn't have some bad things happen to you, but I was saying I don't support griefing, that I was just giving an example to one person, not all of you. I don't see why you keep telling people to meet you, a random stranger, at a McDonald's to talk about something as childish as griefing. No one is going to get together with a random stranger they have never met in a McDonald's to discuss griefing.
I will admit that I have griefed, but usually I only do it to my friends, where we know each other as just playing tricks on one another.
This is exactly how I am when it comes to griefing. I would never grief a random stranger. I'll admit I've had a lot of problems, not only in Minecraft with people griefing me, but in school. I used to be bullied every day back in primary school. The worst part about it was the people who did it were the ones I called "friends". It wasn't so bad when that one kid who bullied everyone called me fat or a nerd, but it broke my heart when my closest friends did it. For a while, I really hated myself, because I felt worthless, because everything I'd try to do to impress those guys, they'd laugh at me and pass me off. Needless to say, now that I am in middle school, I have found real friends.
The point of the entire sob story is this. I know how victims of griefing feel. I can relate, and I dare a single person to say that what happened to someone else was worse than what happened to me or someone else. Even though you are probably right, that doesn't mean other people aren't allowed to have problems. When little kids who play Minecraft get griefed, it probably breaks their hearts, because it was probably done by a big brother, or some of his friends, because their opinion mattered to him the little kid.
What this all is leading up to, is that griefing does hurt people's feelings, so that is why I ONLY do it with friends and we are goofing around, and I would never do it to a random person.
TL;DR : Griefing hurts feelings, and I can relate to that, so that is why I don't grief and neither should others.
GUESS who in the 1930's was instrumental and/or supported:
1- was a vegetarian
2- created the 'interstate' highway system
3- created the people's car (volkswagen)
4- was an enviromentalist
5- supported gun control
6- was a pioneer in missile technology that lead to space exploration
and I'll bet even he would not be a griefer today.
Exodus 22:1-31
“If a man steals an ox or a sheep, and kills it or sells it, he shall repay five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. If a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no bloodguilt for him, but if the sun has risen on him, there shall be bloodguilt for him. He shall surely pay. If he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. If the stolen beast is found alive in his possession, whether it is an ox or a donkey or a sheep, he shall pay double. “If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed over, or lets his beast loose and it feeds in another man's field, he shall make restitution from the best in his own field and in his own vineyard. ...
2 - Dr. Porsche designed the car for Adolf Hitler, I sat at the table during the dinner parties as they talked about it and we sat silent, back then children were seen and not heard and a table knife across the top of the hand corrected bad manors.. this can all so be confirmed in history as well, and his name is attached to the whole line of cars from Germany to now.
These discussions would go on late in to the night, If Hitler only had this and that..
5- NRA support the first Gun control laws in 1930
6- We gave all the German scientist immunity for their war crimes in exchange for their knowledge and help to advance the missile and space programs, this made Russia angry later due to a broken exchange of information agreement "George Patton" would say later lets not stop here lets take Russia as well with good reason "I can not quote him as this would draw and infraction for his glossy use of profanity at times". He would later be assonated with the second attempt being successful.
discussion is about griefing. u r incidental at best.
The ENRON executives were also model citizens on the outside. But just like griefers they were broken as human beings. u r welcome to join our discussion group.
I remember ENRON they ate part of my 401K and sat in hot tubs with the part of it as well, they never had to make good on it either...
The world has come to griefing, bulling, trolling, stealing and me first forget the rest. I wonder just how many came out of retirement, how many kid will never make it to collage now as a result of the "ME FIRST"
I am quickly getting to the point of "live and let die" if there were not a law for failing to render assistance I would start now, I think I am just about here now.
Griefing in real life examples
Get a ticket for an unlawful stop while trying to help some one. "that's parking or coming to a complete stop on a highway side" police do that now to make extra money. Police officer does not render assistance wait what is this "to protect and serve". he served the town wallet and watched the broken down motorist to see if any one would stop and help. Then he called a city tow truck and had the person towed away 200 hook up that is not even the mileage or the yard fee, and daily storage fee. Total Troll grief ding 153 for me with court fees, I figure easy 500 to 600 to get the person car back. All the officer had to say was he was not interested am I aware of what I did wrong..
so see griefing goes on in real life as well.
So people play games like mine craft to relax and have fun not to get trolled, griefed, stolen from or have an ender pearl thrown with a dash board exit to crash a persons game just as it goes in to save.
Yet people find it so easy to grief on other people every day and yet people think it is their give right to do so because they have a XBLA GOLD account
Why do you keep repeating that same thing? I don't think you didn't have some bad things happen to you, but I was saying I don't support griefing, that I was just giving an example to one person, not all of you. I don't see why you keep telling people to meet you, a random stranger, at a McDonald's to talk about something as childish as griefing. No one is going to get together with a random stranger they have never met in a McDonald's to discuss griefing.
This is exactly how I am when it comes to griefing. I would never grief a random stranger. I'll admit I've had a lot of problems, not only in Minecraft with people griefing me, but in school. I used to be bullied every day back in primary school. The worst part about it was the people who did it were the ones I called "friends". It wasn't so bad when that one kid who bullied everyone called me fat or a nerd, but it broke my heart when my closest friends did it. For a while, I really hated myself, because I felt worthless, because everything I'd try to do to impress those guys, they'd laugh at me and pass me off. Needless to say, now that I am in middle school, I have found real friends.
The point of the entire sob story is this. I know how victims of griefing feel. I can relate, and I dare a single person to say that what happened to someone else was worse than what happened to me or someone else. Even though you are probably right, that doesn't mean other people aren't allowed to have problems. When little kids who play Minecraft get griefed, it probably breaks their hearts, because it was probably done by a big brother, or some of his friends, because their opinion mattered to him the little kid.
What this all is leading up to, is that griefing does hurt people's feelings, so that is why I ONLY do it with friends and we are goofing around, and I would never do it to a random person.
TL;DR : Griefing hurts feelings, and I can relate to that, so that is why I don't grief and neither should others.
Kiori's original point, however, is that agreed upon mutual pranking among friends isn't griefing. You yourself also go on to say that the bullying that made you feel the worst about yourself came from "friends" - people you thought you could trust and then they broke that trust.
The term "griefing" implies the intent of the griefer to cause other people grief (i.e. emotional pain). It doesn't really matter whether or not they succeed in their quest, the intent is what defines the action. If they do fail to cause someone the pain they intended (e.g. the victim exits the game without saving and just goes on), then that just makes the griefer a lousy griefer... but still a griefer nonetheless. Because their intent was to cause someone pain, many just go on to seek out another victim... because they do it for the "lols" / jollies and they get their jollies out of causing other people pain. Bottomline... they're sadistic.
I agree with you the JSpringy's post was a little strong. "Garbage human being" is not a term I would call anyone, let alone someone (a child really) whose current extent of bullying may be limited to griefing in a video game. The problem is though that, left unchecked, griefing in a game can and frequently does escalate into more extreme forms of IRL bullying and acts of vandalism. No matter how insignificant it seems to you, the idea of taking pleasure from someone else's pain is just plain wrong. Nothing else you do in your life would change that fact if causing pain is your intent when you grief even a friend. Anyone who takes pleasure from causing someone else pain is, in that moment, a bully... nothing more... not even worth arguing with really. Their victims, however, totally worth fighting for.
Be a terrorist? No! Gaming won't affect my life in any way other than remembering good times.
Edit: You guys dedicated a whole page to hating on me! What an accomplishment!
No I don't think any one has dedicated a whole page to hating on you, what I do see is a very lost early teen, who is proud of harming people and how you can inflict harm on people looking at your picture you probably sit out side on the steps some were early in the school yard or some other off site location smoking burning up your lungs thing this is cool as well. if your smoking your not only grieving your grieving your lungs and you will pay for it in lost health
The ultimate grief is what your doing to your self as you push others away, and you will see as no one will want to have any thing to do with you in life as you move forward. You will lie to yourself and say you have friends and one day the cell phone will stop ringing because they got wise to you. School is not just about the learning it is about the people and the life time connections you make moving forward. You will use those people to find jobs in your community or as references, or as travel work visa references to secure jobs over seas.
Wait you have it all under control you don't need any of that you like grieving so much you have got a good start on that now, you grief the any adult you can and any passer bye and any gamer that for sure.
People are trying to help you here, you entered the thread of your own free will and got more then you wanted, straight forward answers on how people felt and reacted to grievers
You kind of remind me of this kid working down the street at BK for the last two years after leaving school with no diploma, same time my oldest graduated. This kid a girl friend no future a 1 year old made other peoples lives miserable yes that what he did the whole time.
Here is the kicker I could get him in to a refinery, fact he has not changed I would not endanger any ones life getting him in there, this person is a danger to him self and others. I know the money would help them out. I am sure they are on WIC and food stamps, I would rather that then have dead people on my hands.
What does my oldest do he works at a refinery making 35 an hour that's at age 20 works with welders and tool pushers, and supervisors all day long.
You can say I am wrong to yourself, and say I am making this up if it makes you feel better in side. You will just be grieving your self.
You have six years to make good grades, good connections in school and on Xbox take advantage of it and use it to your advantage.
Am I picking on you no I am calling as I see it, I don't hate you, I think your a little miss guided.
I have helped at least 50 people on XBL get jobs in the oil industry who have been sitting home jobless for a year or better, some worked out some failed the "DOT CFR Part 40" before they ever got started. I am not so quick to help any one any more as a result now.
it is your choice what you do and it is up to you, no one is picking on you.
Did I really read some of this crap? Someone stating that they would beat a griefer to death? Trying to say griefing could make one suicidal? Mental issues cause one to go suicidal, not griefing. Think before you post people. Jesus christ....
Note that the programming options for countering griefing mentioned in this article are not, as yet anyway, available on the Xbox. Many of them originated with mods and mods are not compatible with the Xbox and it is pretty much forbidden to discuss them in detail on this site. However, it would be nice if 4J did find ways to make improvements that would allow hosts to reverse the damage done to a map specifically by griefers while maintaining the progress others made in the map at the same time it was being griefed.
Did I really read some of this crap? Someone stating that they would beat a griefer to death? Trying to say griefing could make one suicidal? Mental issues cause one to go suicidal, not griefing. Think before you post people. Jesus christ....
One of the most common rationalizations presented by posters who admit to griefing is that it doesn't have an effect on their victims. However, it can and it does and the griefers just usually don't want to recognize that part of it. Furthermore, whether or not it does or does not in any given instance does not excuse the intent of the griefer to cause their victims to react to being griefed (e.g. rage quit the game). I agree that it would not be the griefing alone that would likely cause a suicide; but really should it have to cause such a dire situation before it should be considered just plain wrong?
Did I really read some of this crap? Someone stating that they would beat a griefer to death? Trying to say griefing could make one suicidal? Mental issues cause one to go suicidal, not griefing. Think before you post people. Jesus christ....
It has been my life experience that people reveal who they really are in the little things. A thief is a thief whether they take 10 Euros or 10,000,000 Euros. Same for liars. Same for griefers. How you minecraft is a mirror image into your own soul. So someone that takes pleasure in griefing has the same sadistic seeds of darkness harbored in the hearts of someone that would microwave a live cat.
The only currency in this world that we can not retrieve is time. A griefer is stealing your time, amoung other things, and should be punished accordingly. Jail time in the real world or prisoner trash pickup on the road side would teach griefers a valuable lesson in the real world. It's not just a video game it is a window to the soul. If you take pleasure in griefing others you have no part in a civilized world.
No he stopped from that and went to back other games... he spent a allot of time on the map and was very proud of the world and had all his dogs named
Project Aztec Server Stats: Rage Quits - 132 Deaths - 311 Survivors - 13, 11:36
discussion is about griefing. u r incidental at best.
I live in leland NC (USA). There is a mcdonalds at the bypass interchange. If u r over 18 I would love to discuss this matter in person.
The ENRON executives were also model citizens on the outside. But just like griefers they were broken as human beings. u r welcome to join our discussion group. if u prefer there is a pizza hut also.
edit: i don't know how old some of u kids are but if are under 25 I may be your daddy so show some respect.
The point is that it is NOT fun for your victims, so you're having your fun at their expense... which is bullying.
When you're griefing people and causing them pain... yes, that makes you a person who is behaving badly. Whatever else you do just doesn't negate that.
GUESS who in the 1930's was instrumental and/or supported:
1- was a vegetarian
2- created the 'interstate' highway system
3- created the people's car (volkswagen)
4- was an enviromentalist
5- supported gun control
6- was a pioneer in missile technology that lead to space exploration
and I'll bet even he would not be a griefer today.
Exodus 22:1-31
“If a man steals an ox or a sheep, and kills it or sells it, he shall repay five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. If a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no bloodguilt for him, but if the sun has risen on him, there shall be bloodguilt for him. He shall surely pay. If he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. If the stolen beast is found alive in his possession, whether it is an ox or a donkey or a sheep, he shall pay double. “If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed over, or lets his beast loose and it feeds in another man's field, he shall make restitution from the best in his own field and in his own vineyard. ...
I still have nightmares over things I have witnessed. So waking up from sweat soaked sheets to see my map has been griefed. And that stuff was more than ten years ago. If you are a griefer over 18 and want to grief me I would like to talk to you about that. I live in Leland NC, USA etc. I can give you more specifics but nobody has shown up yet so not interested in traveling too far.
So does greifing hurt anyone? Come see me and we will talk about it.
The point of the entire sob story is this. I know how victims of griefing feel. I can relate, and I dare a single person to say that what happened to someone else was worse than what happened to me or someone else. Even though you are probably right, that doesn't mean other people aren't allowed to have problems. When little kids who play Minecraft get griefed, it probably breaks their hearts, because it was probably done by a big brother, or some of his friends, because their opinion mattered to him the little kid.
What this all is leading up to, is that griefing does hurt people's feelings, so that is why I ONLY do it with friends and we are goofing around, and I would never do it to a random person.
TL;DR : Griefing hurts feelings, and I can relate to that, so that is why I don't grief and neither should others.
2 - Dr. Porsche designed the car for Adolf Hitler, I sat at the table during the dinner parties as they talked about it and we sat silent, back then children were seen and not heard and a table knife across the top of the hand corrected bad manors.. this can all so be confirmed in history as well, and his name is attached to the whole line of cars from Germany to now.
These discussions would go on late in to the night, If Hitler only had this and that..
5- NRA support the first Gun control laws in 1930
6- We gave all the German scientist immunity for their war crimes in exchange for their knowledge and help to advance the missile and space programs, this made Russia angry later due to a broken exchange of information agreement "George Patton" would say later lets not stop here lets take Russia as well with good reason "I can not quote him as this would draw and infraction for his glossy use of profanity at times". He would later be assonated with the second attempt being successful.
Not all one person can be attributed to all six
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I remember ENRON they ate part of my 401K and sat in hot tubs with the part of it as well, they never had to make good on it either...
The world has come to griefing, bulling, trolling, stealing and me first forget the rest. I wonder just how many came out of retirement, how many kid will never make it to collage now as a result of the "ME FIRST"
I am quickly getting to the point of "live and let die" if there were not a law for failing to render assistance I would start now, I think I am just about here now.
Griefing in real life examples
Get a ticket for an unlawful stop while trying to help some one. "that's parking or coming to a complete stop on a highway side" police do that now to make extra money. Police officer does not render assistance wait what is this "to protect and serve". he served the town wallet and watched the broken down motorist to see if any one would stop and help. Then he called a city tow truck and had the person towed away 200 hook up that is not even the mileage or the yard fee, and daily storage fee. Total Troll grief ding 153 for me with court fees, I figure easy 500 to 600 to get the person car back. All the officer had to say was he was not interested am I aware of what I did wrong..
so see griefing goes on in real life as well.
So people play games like mine craft to relax and have fun not to get trolled, griefed, stolen from or have an ender pearl thrown with a dash board exit to crash a persons game just as it goes in to save.
Yet people find it so easy to grief on other people every day and yet people think it is their give right to do so because they have a XBLA GOLD account
Project Aztec Server Stats: Rage Quits - 132 Deaths - 311 Survivors - 13, 11:36
so clueless.
Kiori's original point, however, is that agreed upon mutual pranking among friends isn't griefing. You yourself also go on to say that the bullying that made you feel the worst about yourself came from "friends" - people you thought you could trust and then they broke that trust.
The term "griefing" implies the intent of the griefer to cause other people grief (i.e. emotional pain). It doesn't really matter whether or not they succeed in their quest, the intent is what defines the action. If they do fail to cause someone the pain they intended (e.g. the victim exits the game without saving and just goes on), then that just makes the griefer a lousy griefer... but still a griefer nonetheless. Because their intent was to cause someone pain, many just go on to seek out another victim... because they do it for the "lols" / jollies and they get their jollies out of causing other people pain. Bottomline... they're sadistic.
I agree with you the JSpringy's post was a little strong. "Garbage human being" is not a term I would call anyone, let alone someone (a child really) whose current extent of bullying may be limited to griefing in a video game. The problem is though that, left unchecked, griefing in a game can and frequently does escalate into more extreme forms of IRL bullying and acts of vandalism. No matter how insignificant it seems to you, the idea of taking pleasure from someone else's pain is just plain wrong. Nothing else you do in your life would change that fact if causing pain is your intent when you grief even a friend. Anyone who takes pleasure from causing someone else pain is, in that moment, a bully... nothing more... not even worth arguing with really. Their victims, however, totally worth fighting for.
No I don't think any one has dedicated a whole page to hating on you, what I do see is a very lost early teen, who is proud of harming people and how you can inflict harm on people looking at your picture you probably sit out side on the steps some were early in the school yard or some other off site location smoking burning up your lungs thing this is cool as well. if your smoking your not only grieving your grieving your lungs and you will pay for it in lost health
The ultimate grief is what your doing to your self as you push others away, and you will see as no one will want to have any thing to do with you in life as you move forward. You will lie to yourself and say you have friends and one day the cell phone will stop ringing because they got wise to you. School is not just about the learning it is about the people and the life time connections you make moving forward. You will use those people to find jobs in your community or as references, or as travel work visa references to secure jobs over seas.
Wait you have it all under control you don't need any of that you like grieving so much you have got a good start on that now, you grief the any adult you can and any passer bye and any gamer that for sure.
People are trying to help you here, you entered the thread of your own free will and got more then you wanted, straight forward answers on how people felt and reacted to grievers
You kind of remind me of this kid working down the street at BK for the last two years after leaving school with no diploma, same time my oldest graduated. This kid a girl friend no future a 1 year old made other peoples lives miserable yes that what he did the whole time.
Here is the kicker I could get him in to a refinery, fact he has not changed I would not endanger any ones life getting him in there, this person is a danger to him self and others. I know the money would help them out. I am sure they are on WIC and food stamps, I would rather that then have dead people on my hands.
What does my oldest do he works at a refinery making 35 an hour that's at age 20 works with welders and tool pushers, and supervisors all day long.
You can say I am wrong to yourself, and say I am making this up if it makes you feel better in side. You will just be grieving your self.
You have six years to make good grades, good connections in school and on Xbox take advantage of it and use it to your advantage.
Am I picking on you no I am calling as I see it, I don't hate you, I think your a little miss guided.
I have helped at least 50 people on XBL get jobs in the oil industry who have been sitting home jobless for a year or better, some worked out some failed the "DOT CFR Part 40" before they ever got started. I am not so quick to help any one any more as a result now.
it is your choice what you do and it is up to you, no one is picking on you.
Project Aztec Server Stats: Rage Quits - 132 Deaths - 311 Survivors - 13, 11:36
Did I really read some of this crap? Someone stating that they would beat a griefer to death? Trying to say griefing could make one suicidal? Mental issues cause one to go suicidal, not griefing. Think before you post people. Jesus christ....
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Griefing
Note that the programming options for countering griefing mentioned in this article are not, as yet anyway, available on the Xbox. Many of them originated with mods and mods are not compatible with the Xbox and it is pretty much forbidden to discuss them in detail on this site. However, it would be nice if 4J did find ways to make improvements that would allow hosts to reverse the damage done to a map specifically by griefers while maintaining the progress others made in the map at the same time it was being griefed.
One of the most common rationalizations presented by posters who admit to griefing is that it doesn't have an effect on their victims. However, it can and it does and the griefers just usually don't want to recognize that part of it. Furthermore, whether or not it does or does not in any given instance does not excuse the intent of the griefer to cause their victims to react to being griefed (e.g. rage quit the game). I agree that it would not be the griefing alone that would likely cause a suicide; but really should it have to cause such a dire situation before it should be considered just plain wrong?
It has been my life experience that people reveal who they really are in the little things. A thief is a thief whether they take 10 Euros or 10,000,000 Euros. Same for liars. Same for griefers. How you minecraft is a mirror image into your own soul. So someone that takes pleasure in griefing has the same sadistic seeds of darkness harbored in the hearts of someone that would microwave a live cat.
The only currency in this world that we can not retrieve is time. A griefer is stealing your time, amoung other things, and should be punished accordingly. Jail time in the real world or prisoner trash pickup on the road side would teach griefers a valuable lesson in the real world. It's not just a video game it is a window to the soul. If you take pleasure in griefing others you have no part in a civilized world.