Today Xbox announced that Minecraft Xbox 360 Edition is coming to disc form, so now you don't have to download it. Link: http://playxbla.com/minecraftretail
That is how all video games work if you do not connect to Xbox Live. My Skyrim, Halo 4, Borderlands 2, etc, wouldn't get updates if I weren't connected to Xbox Live.
The disc is being made for people without Xbox Live.
This disc is made with TU9 because TU 9 has THE END in it. The game can be called complete in some sense because you need every major aspect to reach the end and when you finally make it to the end, you can say that you have reached the end of your long and main adventure of minecraft.
If minecraft 360 stopped getting updates after TU9 (im positive it wont), I wouldn't be too upset.
EDIT: but I also think that it should include all of the skins to make it a more complete version.
"Only the trees which you know are not trees for food you may destroy and cut down, to build siegeworks against the city that makes war with you, until it is subdued." (Deuteronomy 20:20 NKJV)
I'm not one to call B.S., but if there is infact a physical disc form being release soon, where is the update for XBLA? If they already have a planned release date, then the TU9 is done (or 99%) and being produced in disc form. You can't just throw it together in a week and distribute it like that. With 4J saying it hasn't even gone to cert testing yet, that would need time, then time to manufacture, then distribute to retailers.
So being already halfway through March, and with a claim of an April 30 release date on the disc form, I am willing to bet that the XBLA TU9 should be very soon. I just hope they aren't going to hold off on the TU9 update until April 30th to coincide with the disc form release date.
I'm not one to call B.S., but if there is infact a physical disc form being release soon, where is the update for XBLA? If they already have a planned release date, then the TU9 is done (or 99%) and being produced in disc form. You can't just throw it together in a week and distribute it like that. With 4J saying it hasn't even gone to cert testing yet, that would need time, then time to manufacture, then distribute to retailers.
So being already halfway through March, and with a claim of an April 30 release date on the disc form, I am willing to bet that the XBLA TU9 should be very soon. I just hope they aren't going to hold off on the TU9 update until April 30th to coincide with the disc form release date.
Considering that they're bug fixing TU9 right now, it will likely be out sometime within the next month.
I'm really having trouble wrapping my head around this.
IF you have an internet connection, wouldn't you hook up your xbox and get the free Silver account? If your xbox isn't hooked, you can't get updates. Can't you just, even temporarily, hook your xbox up and get it? Heaven forbid you don't have any internet. I guess you'd only hear about MC from word-of-mouth. I just picture a buyer of the disk as someone who's "heard" about MC, wants to try the game out, but knowing (or should) that there won't be any updates (WYSIWYG).
I think they'll sell a few, but I just can't see it a big seller.
I'm really having trouble wrapping my head around this.
IF you have an internet connection, wouldn't you hook up your xbox and get the free Silver account? If your xbox isn't hooked, you can't get updates. Can't you just, even temporarily, hook your xbox up and get it? Heaven forbid you don't have any internet. I guess you'd only hear about MC from word-of-mouth. I just picture a buyer of the disk as someone who's "heard" about MC, wants to try the game out, but knowing (or should) that there won't be any updates (WYSIWYG).
I think they'll sell a few, but I just can't see it a big seller.
The disc is being made for people without Xbox Live.
This is what I like most about this. What I see here is Microsoft catering to those that don't have / don't connect their Xbox to the internet, which means they acknowledge that they're there, and the rumors about the next Xbox requiring an internet connection to work will hopefully be false.
This is what I like most about this. What I see here is Microsoft catering to those that don't have / don't connect their Xbox to the internet, which means they acknowledge that they're there, and the rumors about the next Xbox requiring an internet connection to work will hopefully be false.
All reason, logic, and evidence would point to it not requiring xbox live.
If I have a spare 20 bucks lieing around I might buy it just to add to the collection of cases that I have lol... Though with Gears and Bioshock coming out these next two weeks it looks like my budget is eaten up for the next month
Wasn't it said that infinite worlds weren't possible because XBLA games have certain restrictions that full retail games don't? I'm going completely from memory here, but that was my first thought.
Wasn't it said that infinite worlds weren't possible because XBLA games have certain restrictions that full retail games don't? I'm going completely from memory here, but that was my first thought.
No, I believe it's just processing power of the 360 (or lack thereof)
No, I believe it's just processing power of the 360 (or lack thereof)
I don't think that is the case. Considering how all versions of Minecraft handle chunks, I believe the only limitation is storage. Otherwise it would be impossible to play an infinite block world game on a smartphone. I think even the MCPE dev team is considering infinite worlds.
I don't think that is the case. Considering how all versions of Minecraft handle chunks, I believe the only limitation is storage. Otherwise it would be impossible to play an infinite block world game on a smartphone. I think even the MCPE dev team is considering infinite worlds.
I see the "storage" myth is alive and well. The problem isn't storage, it's RAM.
Patty Burns: "The big problem on the Xbox 360 is memory. It's not that the console is lacking in some way, but it is a seven-year-old piece of hardware that is being made to run a three-year-old PC game. Minecraft may not look very advanced, but it's a really deceptively complex one. Even the Xbox 360 version's smaller maps feature more than 100,000 fully customizable chunks of world for your console to keep track of.
"I think the thing that people tend to overlook is, you can change absolutely everything in a world. So you may start off with a world that seems like a normal computer game map, but you can change everything in there. It's not the same as loading a world from a disc," Burns explained." http://www.g4tv.com/...nd-console-gap/
Probably not the game is only around 115MB. The whole game would be loaded to memory before the disc even got upto full speed most likely.
The downloadable file size isn't the problem either. It's not how big the program is, it's how much ram it uses. For instance, a program to calculate PI is very small, but if it calculates PI to very many places it quickly eats up all the RAM available. MC is the same way. There may be only a dozen lines of code telling the game to remember all the changes to the blocks in those chunks… but how much ram it takes to actually do that is a whole different story!
That is what I was thinking, doesn't make sense.
The disc will be TU9, the coming update. If you don't connect to live after that, you don't get anymore updates.
That is how all video games work if you do not connect to Xbox Live. My Skyrim, Halo 4, Borderlands 2, etc, wouldn't get updates if I weren't connected to Xbox Live.
The disc is being made for people without Xbox Live.
If minecraft 360 stopped getting updates after TU9 (im positive it wont), I wouldn't be too upset.
EDIT: but I also think that it should include all of the skins to make it a more complete version.
So being already halfway through March, and with a claim of an April 30 release date on the disc form, I am willing to bet that the XBLA TU9 should be very soon. I just hope they aren't going to hold off on the TU9 update until April 30th to coincide with the disc form release date.
IF you have an internet connection, wouldn't you hook up your xbox and get the free Silver account? If your xbox isn't hooked, you can't get updates. Can't you just, even temporarily, hook your xbox up and get it? Heaven forbid you don't have any internet. I guess you'd only hear about MC from word-of-mouth. I just picture a buyer of the disk as someone who's "heard" about MC, wants to try the game out, but knowing (or should) that there won't be any updates (WYSIWYG).
I think they'll sell a few, but I just can't see it a big seller.
Some people just don't have that option, man.
This is what I like most about this. What I see here is Microsoft catering to those that don't have / don't connect their Xbox to the internet, which means they acknowledge that they're there, and the rumors about the next Xbox requiring an internet connection to work will hopefully be false.
All reason, logic, and evidence would point to it not requiring xbox live.
If I have a spare 20 bucks lieing around I might buy it just to add to the collection of cases that I have lol... Though with Gears and Bioshock coming out these next two weeks it looks like my budget is eaten up for the next month
No, I believe it's just processing power of the 360 (or lack thereof)
I don't think that is the case. Considering how all versions of Minecraft handle chunks, I believe the only limitation is storage. Otherwise it would be impossible to play an infinite block world game on a smartphone. I think even the MCPE dev team is considering infinite worlds.
I see the "storage" myth is alive and well. The problem isn't storage, it's RAM.
Patty Burns: "The big problem on the Xbox 360 is memory. It's not that the console is lacking in some way, but it is a seven-year-old piece of hardware that is being made to run a three-year-old PC game. Minecraft may not look very advanced, but it's a really deceptively complex one. Even the Xbox 360 version's smaller maps feature more than 100,000 fully customizable chunks of world for your console to keep track of.
"I think the thing that people tend to overlook is, you can change absolutely everything in a world. So you may start off with a world that seems like a normal computer game map, but you can change everything in there. It's not the same as loading a world from a disc," Burns explained."
http://www.g4tv.com/...nd-console-gap/
The downloadable file size isn't the problem either. It's not how big the program is, it's how much ram it uses. For instance, a program to calculate PI is very small, but if it calculates PI to very many places it quickly eats up all the RAM available. MC is the same way. There may be only a dozen lines of code telling the game to remember all the changes to the blocks in those chunks… but how much ram it takes to actually do that is a whole different story!