I started playing Minecraft back in May for the very first time, and I was immediatley drawn to the creative aspect that this game carries that no other game does quite the same. I immediatley started drawing out plans, marking territories, boarders. I took my time carefully because I wanted my World to ressemble how I thought things should be.
I spent 3-Months plotting and adding massive amounts of land in the middle of the ocean, I wanted to make a man-made island worthy of nice buildings. I tried to isolate my island away from the majoritivley snow generated seed that I was given upon seed generation.
But lastnight, something happened. After several attempts to play in the new 'Creative Mode' having my Xbox freeze up over and over, I finally entered the game correctly. I took a neat 'fly-over' of my man-made island to witness an unjst, godly act of internal griefing. IT WAS SNOWING ON MY ISLAND!! The Island that I purposely constructed AWAY from the snow biome, was now covered in snow! My map has been FULLY-EXPLORED for months! They told me I wasn't going to have the newly-added biomes since my World had been totally explored. So why on Earth would they randomly add snow?
Don't they realize Players spend time and effort creating what they want, adding biomes to unexplored seeds makes sense, it adds to the game, but WHY would they have added snow to my map? It doesn't even make sense. Take a player like me for example, I spent months and months getting everything how I saw fit, I play roughly 8-10 hours a day and really enjoy the game. And now I have to suffer because I made my World months ago? That's not right. I've spent countless hours that I'll never have returned to me to play a game I enjoy.
I don't care why, I don't care how, I don't know who I'll have to contact or what the number is, but I DEMAND this problem to be fixed. I'm hoping it's a sick glitch/bug otherwise Mojand griefed me worse than any 12-year old angry child could have ever. The fact you added snow to an already explored World is beyond me. There must be other players out there that are in the same position as I am! It's ridiculous!
Luckily, I saved the game right before the 'illegal snow' fell in the hundreds around my island. But If anyone could assist me as to where to take this problem, please help me out. I literally can't play or it will load the snow chunks as soon as I spawn in.
If this problem can't be resolved, then you lost a dedicated player for good! I would never 'deal with it' or make a new map, never ever. Thats alot of time and effort and it's unfair to ask that of anyone. If the adding problem is unresolved I demand a total refund of my money. Nothing about adding biomes was ever discussed for explored worlds, ever. It's not my fault, it shouldn't be my problem!
What did you guys do, rush putting the update out? Your one of the smaller, privatized video-game companies that I've ever played for, if you can't consider problems players are facing and resolve them to keep customer based, then no one will. I'm so freaking mad!
-MarkyD
There's the generated biomes, such as mountains, plains, oceans, etc. which cannot change. Then there's the weather biomes, that can change.
Also, you may be able to go to the height limit and place glass up there to stop rain and snow, if it bothers you so much. Water though, you'll have to light it up well unless you want it to freeze.
I'm sorry, I stopped reading after the second paragraph.
All I am going to say is........go back and play Minecraft again.
Don't offer advice if you chose not to hear the problem.
Never ever will I ever spend another minute rebuilding unless the problem is corrected.
I wish I could go play rightnow, there's many things I'd have liked to build with Creative, but all my work has been ruined. I really hope it's a glitch
There's the generated biomes, such as mountains, plains, oceans, etc. which cannot change. Then there's the weather biomes, that can change.
Also, you may be able to go to the height limit and place glass up there to stop rain and snow, if it bothers you so much. Water though, you'll have to light it up well unless you want it to freeze.
Also, Mojang doesn't work on the X360E.
They added a different weather biome to an already fully-explored map though ! I literally spent months of my time building according to the biomes I had! Is it my fault that I've been playing for months and should be penalized for it? If the problem persists it's almost exactly what it would be saying.. "Sorry, you sholdn't have played until this update came? Ridiculously unfair
I'm sorry you never got this information - in today's world people naturally presume that everyone reads the forums for their games and will get important information.
The short answer to your point is that this is neither a glitch nor a grief. It was a conscious decision made by Mojang back during the PC development. Because biome code is intergral to so much of what makes minecraft work, there is no way to "Fix" it. If you wish to keep playing , the best thing can do is put torches, jacko'lanterns, glowstone, lava or burning netherrack everywhere, this will keep the snow and ice melted. To stop the snowing, you can build a giant glass roof up near y=125 (you will need to occasionally go up and shovel it).
Edit - I got the wrong thread above.. I can't find the one I wanted to reference now.
Weather biomes can change, but already generated blocks cannot change. When 1.8 was released, a brand new generation system was introduced. While that system cannot change the blocks you've already explored, it can change the weather that affects those blocks. There's no way to "fix" this, unless you want to go to the height ceiling and place glass to stop the snowfall.
It sucks, but it's not unfair. It's the cost of getting new terrain and structures, some of the old stuff is broken but we have plenty of new stuff.
You can try my glass suggestion and remember to light up any water so it doesn't freeze, or you can start a new world and use creative to "quickly" rebuild what you've "lost".
If this is true, what I'm hearing, then I demand a refund of this game, I will never be interested in playing again, and its an awful feeling to have for a game I enjoyed playing. I cannot believe they would ever do that. Im speechless, you lost a faithful player for good 4J, tot
TL;DR It is frustrating but it is also just a game, look at it as an opporuntiy to start over and build something better or try expanding on what you have built by building a huge glass dome over it.
"Climate change" vs. "terrain generation" relative to 1.8.2 is something that has been discussed for a long time here on the 360 forum. It is something that also occurred when the PC version of this same update was introduced. I know I was hoping that 4J had found a better way around it than Mojang; but that obviously did not happen. I'm also a victim in that my previous builds don't suit the environment they now sit in. From the earlier discussion, I knew it was a possibility; but I have to admit that was clinging to the hope that my build world would be one of the lucky ones where the weather wouldn't change too drastically.
Unfortunately, there is no way that I'm aware of to undo the 1.8.2 weather. I've read some people suggesting clearing the system cache and going back to the previous version. However, I don't believe clearing your system cache will actually get a person to 1.7.3. It would probably take you back to the 1.6 version of game and then update you right past 1.7.3 through to 1.8.2 again the moment you opened the game. If you decline the updating, you won't be able to play Minecraft on XBox Live and you'll probably be stuck at 1.6 (which probably wouldn't be able to correctly read a world with 1.7.3 features in it either).
While I fully understand your disappointment, we probably just have to accept that Minecraft is "just a game" afterall and, as such, Minecraft worlds were just never really intended to be permanent builds.
Can't you just MCEdit your builds to a biome you like? You only have to pick a new place and since you only dislike like the snow biome you can place the builds somewhere else in the same world. Problem solved? But I can understand that it is quite frustrating.
Please note that MCEdit (or any other mod) is not available for legitimate use with the XBOX.
It may be "just a game" but at the end of the day it is a product you have purchased and having it forcibly changed for the worse once you own it is poor business sense.
Just the same as somebody would not accept a car company coming and ripping the leather interior out of their vehicle 4 months after they had purchased it...
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It may be "just a game" but at the end of the day it is a product you have purchased and having it forcibly changed for the worse once you own it is poor business sense.
Just the same as somebody would not accept a car company coming and ripping the leather interior out of their vehicle 4 months after they had purchased it...
However, let's compare games to games. A person would not be so upset if Halo decided to change all their base layouts between updates. Also, most children eventuallly dismantle their Leggos and move on. You have $20 invested in Minecraft; not the $30,000 or more that you would likely have invested in a new car with leather interior.
This seems like a joke. You want a refund.. because it's snowing? I'm sorry, but if your biggest concern in life is that it is snowing in Minecraft, then you've got a pretty good life. Build a glass roof, it isn't that hard. Also, you make it sound that Mojang personally went into your map, and added a snow biome. First of all, Mojang didn't even make MCXBLA. 4J did. Get over it, you aren't getting a refund.
It may be "just a game" but at the end of the day it is a product you have purchased and having it forcibly changed for the worse once you own it is poor business sense.
Just the same as somebody would not accept a car company coming and ripping the leather interior out of their vehicle 4 months after they had purchased it...
The information pertaining to the change of the biome code has been readily available for a period of years(?) now. It is a required change that will not be reverted. It happened on PC as well.
You could have just said there was snow on your island and there wasn't before. And stop complaining! It's just snow, I don't see how your world is ruined, just go build another dirt hut somewhere else.
However, let's compare games to games. A person would not be so upset if Halo decided to change all their base layouts between updates. Also, most children eventuallly dismantle their Leggos and move on. You have $20 invested in Minecraft; not the $30,000 or more that you would likely have invested in a car with leather interior.
You don't spend the time designing and building and creating in Halo as you do in Minecraft... Some people treat their Minecraft creations as a work of art, your comparison is negligable.
And the principle is the same, from a business stand point it is forcibly changing a product you have already sold AFTER the purchaser has spent time & effort making changes. If the update was optional it would be different, but it wasn't.
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I have lost all of my worlds, none would work on survival or creative. Granted its a pretty crappy thing to happen, it is also a game and nothing anyone can do about it, not even 4J themselves.
It comes down to you either quitting or saying screw it and continue to play as I and a lot of others have done since we have lost everything.
Life is life, **** happens, you move on as adults should.
Someone mentioned to me that in the PC version you might be able to 'change biomes' altogether. I've never played the PC version so I'm not sure about that claim at all, but if it is true, maybe it will be added to the xbox version in a year or so? If anyone is more familiar with the PC version, or has any information about being able to change biomes in the PC version, you might be able to educate me, and others like Princess_Zoe. Perhaps instead of a total relocation and mass re-build, i wouldn't mind the snow if it would someday in the future be able to 'turn it off'?
The information pertaining to the change of the biome code has been readily available for a period of years(?) now. It is a required change that will not be reverted. It happened on PC as well.
They stated it would not affect existing worlds.
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I spent 3-Months plotting and adding massive amounts of land in the middle of the ocean, I wanted to make a man-made island worthy of nice buildings. I tried to isolate my island away from the majoritivley snow generated seed that I was given upon seed generation.
But lastnight, something happened. After several attempts to play in the new 'Creative Mode' having my Xbox freeze up over and over, I finally entered the game correctly. I took a neat 'fly-over' of my man-made island to witness an unjst, godly act of internal griefing. IT WAS SNOWING ON MY ISLAND!! The Island that I purposely constructed AWAY from the snow biome, was now covered in snow! My map has been FULLY-EXPLORED for months! They told me I wasn't going to have the newly-added biomes since my World had been totally explored. So why on Earth would they randomly add snow?
Don't they realize Players spend time and effort creating what they want, adding biomes to unexplored seeds makes sense, it adds to the game, but WHY would they have added snow to my map? It doesn't even make sense. Take a player like me for example, I spent months and months getting everything how I saw fit, I play roughly 8-10 hours a day and really enjoy the game. And now I have to suffer because I made my World months ago? That's not right. I've spent countless hours that I'll never have returned to me to play a game I enjoy.
I don't care why, I don't care how, I don't know who I'll have to contact or what the number is, but I DEMAND this problem to be fixed. I'm hoping it's a sick glitch/bug otherwise Mojand griefed me worse than any 12-year old angry child could have ever. The fact you added snow to an already explored World is beyond me. There must be other players out there that are in the same position as I am! It's ridiculous!
Luckily, I saved the game right before the 'illegal snow' fell in the hundreds around my island. But If anyone could assist me as to where to take this problem, please help me out. I literally can't play or it will load the snow chunks as soon as I spawn in.
If this problem can't be resolved, then you lost a dedicated player for good! I would never 'deal with it' or make a new map, never ever. Thats alot of time and effort and it's unfair to ask that of anyone. If the adding problem is unresolved I demand a total refund of my money. Nothing about adding biomes was ever discussed for explored worlds, ever. It's not my fault, it shouldn't be my problem!
What did you guys do, rush putting the update out? Your one of the smaller, privatized video-game companies that I've ever played for, if you can't consider problems players are facing and resolve them to keep customer based, then no one will. I'm so freaking mad!
-MarkyD
All I am going to say is........go back and play Minecraft again.
Also, you may be able to go to the height limit and place glass up there to stop rain and snow, if it bothers you so much. Water though, you'll have to light it up well unless you want it to freeze.
Also, Mojang doesn't work on the X360E.
Don't offer advice if you chose not to hear the problem.
Never ever will I ever spend another minute rebuilding unless the problem is corrected.
I wish I could go play rightnow, there's many things I'd have liked to build with Creative, but all my work has been ruined. I really hope it's a glitch
They added a different weather biome to an already fully-explored map though ! I literally spent months of my time building according to the biomes I had! Is it my fault that I've been playing for months and should be penalized for it? If the problem persists it's almost exactly what it would be saying.. "Sorry, you sholdn't have played until this update came? Ridiculously unfair
I'm sorry you never got this information - in today's world people naturally presume that everyone reads the forums for their games and will get important information.
The short answer to your point is that this is neither a glitch nor a grief. It was a conscious decision made by Mojang back during the PC development. Because biome code is intergral to so much of what makes minecraft work, there is no way to "Fix" it. If you wish to keep playing , the best thing can do is put torches, jacko'lanterns, glowstone, lava or burning netherrack everywhere, this will keep the snow and ice melted. To stop the snowing, you can build a giant glass roof up near y=125 (you will need to occasionally go up and shovel it).
Edit - I got the wrong thread above.. I can't find the one I wanted to reference now.
It sucks, but it's not unfair. It's the cost of getting new terrain and structures, some of the old stuff is broken but we have plenty of new stuff.
You can try my glass suggestion and remember to light up any water so it doesn't freeze, or you can start a new world and use creative to "quickly" rebuild what you've "lost".
Unfortunately, there is no way that I'm aware of to undo the 1.8.2 weather. I've read some people suggesting clearing the system cache and going back to the previous version. However, I don't believe clearing your system cache will actually get a person to 1.7.3. It would probably take you back to the 1.6 version of game and then update you right past 1.7.3 through to 1.8.2 again the moment you opened the game. If you decline the updating, you won't be able to play Minecraft on XBox Live and you'll probably be stuck at 1.6 (which probably wouldn't be able to correctly read a world with 1.7.3 features in it either).
While I fully understand your disappointment, we probably just have to accept that Minecraft is "just a game" afterall and, as such, Minecraft worlds were just never really intended to be permanent builds.
Please note that MCEdit (or any other mod) is not available for legitimate use with the XBOX.
Just the same as somebody would not accept a car company coming and ripping the leather interior out of their vehicle 4 months after they had purchased it...
However, let's compare games to games. A person would not be so upset if Halo decided to change all their base layouts between updates. Also, most children eventuallly dismantle their Leggos and move on. You have $20 invested in Minecraft; not the $30,000 or more that you would likely have invested in a new car with leather interior.
TL;DR - It's snow.
The information pertaining to the change of the biome code has been readily available for a period of years(?) now. It is a required change that will not be reverted. It happened on PC as well.
You don't spend the time designing and building and creating in Halo as you do in Minecraft... Some people treat their Minecraft creations as a work of art, your comparison is negligable.
And the principle is the same, from a business stand point it is forcibly changing a product you have already sold AFTER the purchaser has spent time & effort making changes. If the update was optional it would be different, but it wasn't.
It comes down to you either quitting or saying screw it and continue to play as I and a lot of others have done since we have lost everything.
Life is life, **** happens, you move on as adults should.
They stated it would not affect existing worlds.