I like the idea, but am concerned about the life expectancy of such a contest. I've wanted to start "Build Challenges" for the community but apparently picked a difficult one to start. (http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1468254-build-challenge-grass-art/ - After an hour, even I have up trying that). Would something like this work better being combined with other challenges besides redstone? I only ask because I'd love to see more community involvement and so many people are "afraid" of redstone. I planned on posting a new Build Challenge Wed eve, which will hopefully draw more interest.
I think snyders self building/unbuilding house is like sasquatch...he keeps saying he's seen it, but no one else has
Actually I had 1 friend see it before it corrupted, he's not on the forums though. His mom doesn't like that stuff but Nah, today I get my xbox back and I'll be able to re create it. First i'll make the regular (easy ) then the rest, the only problem is the roof, so basically you have to either destroy the roof or have redstone exposed above ground. I won't finish till Saturday probably because I ain't got time to dig out a 25x25x15 box.
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Religion, has actually convinced people, that there's an invisible man, living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of the day, and the invisible man has a special list. Of 10 things he doesn't want you to do. And if you do ANY of these ten things he has a special place, full of fire, and smoke, and burning, and torture, and will send you there to suffer and choke and scream for all of eternity... But he still loves you.
This sounds like tons of fun. Sadly the coolest things I've done so far came from YouTube, but I do have a few things I've done that are original, (as in put together from my own knowledge, not exactly unique.) I would love to be included in the competition.
I like the idea, but am concerned about the life expectancy of such a contest. I've wanted to start "Build Challenges" for the community but apparently picked a difficult one to start. (http://www.minecraft...enge-grass-art/ - After an hour, even I have up trying that). Would something like this work better being combined with other challenges besides redstone? I only ask because I'd love to see more community involvement and so many people are "afraid" of redstone. I planned on posting a new Build Challenge Wed eve, which will hopefully draw more interest.
Well, no offense, but grass art just sounds lame. I mean, for all I know, it could look freakin' amazing, but who really does that? Redstone is something a lot of people are interested in and, on MCXBLA, most people I've seen are on a pretty level playing field. I'm not going to allow non-redstone builds because that doesn't make sense, that's a completely different genre. That would be like having a painting contest and allowing people to submit ice sculptures as well, there's just no fair way to judge that.
This sounds like tons of fun. Sadly the coolest things I've done so far came from YouTube, but I do have a few things I've done that are original, (as in put together from my own knowledge, not exactly unique.) I would love to be included in the competition.
If I were you, I would submit the original work. Anybody who copies a tutorial, or someone else's work, will have penalties applied to their score. If you build a 1x2 Jeb door by your own design, you will score higher than someone who followed a tutorial to build a 5x5 piston door.
You can use someone else's design for individual components in a complex system. Monostable, edge detector, flip flop, logic designs, etc. from the Wiki or elsewhere are all fair game if you know how they work. You should also know how they work together to make your machine operational.
Just as an idea that may allow some longevity to the competition:
Start with just general "redstone creations", but as the contest catches on, maybe narrow the scope to specific creations (doors, day/night detectors, rail stations/systems, etc) or specific "stipulations" (most compact, largest fully opening door [4x4, 5x5, etc], just freakin' HUGE, etc) and of course, you could do the always fun "Rube-Goldberg devices" that do the most complicated way possible to perform a simple task.
Just something to mix things up so it doesn't get stale.
Just as an idea that may allow some longevity to the competition:
Start with just general "redstone creations", but as the contest catches on, maybe narrow the scope to specific creations (doors, day/night detectors, rail stations/systems, etc) or specific "stipulations" (most compact, largest fully opening door [4x4, 5x5, etc], just freakin' HUGE, etc) and of course, you could do the always fun "Rube-Goldberg devices" that do the most complicated way possible to perform a simple task.
Just something to mix things up so it doesn't get stale.
If enough people hop on board I might consider it. I don't want to narrow it down so much that it discourages some players from competing though. I'm definitely thinking about Rube-Goldberg machines now though. They're entertaining and very simple to build, yet you can get as complicated as you want. Plus, no tutorials to copy all of the creations would be original.
I think day/night sensors are much too specific. I know very few people that have made one or are interested in making one. Plus, for most people, it would call for a tutorial since not everybody knows about the water quirk that makes the detector actually detect. Doing a contest for doors is a possibility, but not everyone likes making doors either. I, for one, don't even touch piston doors anymore, I just don't find them interesting. The main reason I would do a contest based on them is simply because everyone playing MCXBLA loves them.
Interesting fact about most tutorials on YouTube: the majority of them are from the pc version of MC. So they don't always work over on xbox. I would take that into consideration too. Or the combination of several designs that are integrated in a way that essentially evolves the contraption into a new design. But ultimately I agree with the lower amount of points if the design is wholly somebody else's.
If enough people hop on board I might consider it. I don't want to narrow it down so much that it discourages some players from competing though. I'm definitely thinking about Rube-Goldberg machines now though. They're entertaining and very simple to build, yet you can get as complicated as you want. Plus, no tutorials to copy all of the creations would be original.
I think day/night sensors are much too specific. I know very few people that have made one or are interested in making one. Plus, for most people, it would call for a tutorial since not everybody knows about the water quirk that makes the detector actually detect. Doing a contest for doors is a possibility, but not everyone likes making doors either. I, for one, don't even touch piston doors anymore, I just don't find them interesting. The main reason I would do a contest based on them is simply because everyone playing MCXBLA loves them.
Those were just examples. Obviously, you could make it digital scoreboards or adders or whatever, I just meant eventually, there MAY be a need for some narrowing of the scope to KEEP people interested.
Maybe YOU present a particular problem to be solved in the most creative/compact/ridiculously complicated way.
Interesting fact about most tutorials on YouTube: the majority of them are from the pc version of MC. So they don't always work over on xbox. I would take that into consideration too. Or the combination of several designs that are integrated in a way that essentially evolves the contraption into a new design. But ultimately I agree with the lower amount of points if the design is wholly somebody else's.
I've already stated using others' designs for specific components in a complex system is fine, as long as you still know how it works. I.e. you shouldn't build a calculator if you don't know how adders work.
EDIT: Someone can get some bonus points though for using their own design. Especially if it's just as good, or better, than most designs.
so who do we submit our work and to whom ? guess videos would be better ?
Since we can't share world files the best option is for me to join your world directly. I should be getting my gold account reactivated pretty soon, that's the only thing holding the contest back at the moment. If someone doesn't have gold, they can submit a video or screenshots. The main downfall to submitting photos is it's going to be a pain to explain how everything works, it's also more difficult to show components in great detail.
See, this would be fun if xbox redstone weren't retarded. Just yesterday I had some CRAZY happen, for example. I have this cobblestone generator, pushes the cobble straight up till it hits obsidian. Makes like a cobble-tree I harvest. The circuit is just a simple 4 repeater looping signal. No input device, (which is a mistake since those kinds of loops shut down everytime you log, ces't la vie) and a single wire leading to a single piston. I flip it on, and it starts working. I go break a few blocks of it to show a friend...then it stops. i go down to look at the wires and they ALL broke. Literally. All the redstone wiring popped off the blocks and was just floating there as dust.
i would love to do this pretty much all i do is redstone or big builds lmao the only sad thing is i cant do it for awhile as my xbox live is out right now.
See, this would be fun if xbox redstone weren't retarded. Just yesterday I had some CRAZY happen, for example. I have this cobblestone generator, pushes the cobble straight up till it hits obsidian. Makes like a cobble-tree I harvest. The circuit is just a simple 4 repeater looping signal. No input device, (which is a mistake since those kinds of loops shut down everytime you log, ces't la vie) and a single wire leading to a single piston. I flip it on, and it starts working. I go break a few blocks of it to show a friend...then it stops. i go down to look at the wires and they ALL broke. Literally. All the redstone wiring popped off the blocks and was just floating there as dust.
O_O srsly? I must say, that is the craziest glitch I've ever heard of.
The judging will take place in the entrant's xbox world. But, if a video/screenshot is used as a submission, this isn't a bad idea at all.
Good points. If a video is submitted, the HUD opacity must not be completely transparent. As for screenshots... well that's a toughy. Is it possible to screencap the crafting menu?
i would love to do this pretty much all i do is redstone or big builds lmao the only sad thing is i cant do it for awhile as my xbox live is out right now.
and uhh no... how do you think big youtubers do msp and xbox live giveaways??
Yeah, I ended up finding out it's just an issue with forum rules. This thread was actually shut down for about an hour yesterday just for mentioning future prizes. I talked it out with the mod who deleted it and worked out a deal though, so it was resurrected and the mention of prizes in the OP was edited out.
I was just thinking it might be better to have users submit creations based on a few catagories. For example best redstone door, best auto farm, best calculator...etc and then have a best unique design catagory for inventions that don't fit in any of the other catagories. I think it would make the judging process a bit easier on you in the end. People could then submit to multiple catagories.
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I was just thinking it might be better to have users submit creations based on a few catagories. For example best redstone door, best auto farm, best calculator...etc and then have a best unique design catagory for inventions that don't fit in any of the other catagories. I think it would make the judging process a bit easier on you in the end. People could then submit to multiple catagories.
Somebody proposed something similar. I think it's a good idea, but it depends on how many entrants there are to determine if it would be practical. There's a lot of interest judging by this thread, but that doesn't necessarily mean there will be a lot of competitors. I think, at least for the first contest, it will just be a general redstone competition. All redstone creations are similar enough they can be grouped together. If this thing starts getting a rather large turnout in the future, I'll separate creations into categories judging by the principles they're based on. (Logic-based, piston-based, generic electric wiring, etc.)
Btw, I had you in mind for an additional judge if you're interested. (This would exempt you from competing.)
Somebody proposed something similar. I think it's a good idea, but it depends on how many entrants there are to determine if it would be practical. There's a lot of interest judging by this thread, but that doesn't necessarily mean there will be a lot of competitors. I think, at least for the first contest, it will just be a general redstone competition. All redstone creations are similar enough they can be grouped together. If this thing starts getting a rather large turnout in the future, I'll separate creations into categories judging by the principles they're based on. (Logic-based, piston-based, generic electric wiring, etc.)
Btw, I had you in mind for an additional judge if you're interested. (This would exempt you from competing.)
I was thinking more along the lines that most of us redstoners like to build multiple creations. With catagories even if there were few competitors there would be multiple entries from each person. A general competition only really allows for one creation from each competitor (their best work). I am just seeing it as:
general competition with 5 competitors = 5 entries to judge total
5 catagory competition with 5 competitors = up to 25 entries to judge total (possible 5 entries per catagory)
I was just thinking with catagories it would entice people to submit all or their creations instead of just their one best creation. lol I could be thinking about it the wrong way though. Just a suggestion.
As for wanting me to judge well... I wouldn't mind judging, although I am not quite up to par on all aspects of redstone. For example I've never decided to build a calculator or any 7 segment displays. I am capable of dissecting any creation and understanding how it works but I would be a little uneasy about judging something I have never got around to building myself.
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Retired StaffWell, no offense, but grass art just sounds lame. I mean, for all I know, it could look freakin' amazing, but who really does that? Redstone is something a lot of people are interested in and, on MCXBLA, most people I've seen are on a pretty level playing field. I'm not going to allow non-redstone builds because that doesn't make sense, that's a completely different genre. That would be like having a painting contest and allowing people to submit ice sculptures as well, there's just no fair way to judge that.
If I were you, I would submit the original work. Anybody who copies a tutorial, or someone else's work, will have penalties applied to their score. If you build a 1x2 Jeb door by your own design, you will score higher than someone who followed a tutorial to build a 5x5 piston door.
You can use someone else's design for individual components in a complex system. Monostable, edge detector, flip flop, logic designs, etc. from the Wiki or elsewhere are all fair game if you know how they work. You should also know how they work together to make your machine operational.
Start with just general "redstone creations", but as the contest catches on, maybe narrow the scope to specific creations (doors, day/night detectors, rail stations/systems, etc) or specific "stipulations" (most compact, largest fully opening door [4x4, 5x5, etc], just freakin' HUGE, etc) and of course, you could do the always fun "Rube-Goldberg devices" that do the most complicated way possible to perform a simple task.
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Retired StaffIf enough people hop on board I might consider it. I don't want to narrow it down so much that it discourages some players from competing though. I'm definitely thinking about Rube-Goldberg machines now though. They're entertaining and very simple to build, yet you can get as complicated as you want. Plus, no tutorials to copy
I think day/night sensors are much too specific. I know very few people that have made one or are interested in making one. Plus, for most people, it would call for a tutorial since not everybody knows about the water quirk that makes the detector actually detect. Doing a contest for doors is a possibility, but not everyone likes making doors either. I, for one, don't even touch piston doors anymore, I just don't find them interesting. The main reason I would do a contest based on them is simply because everyone playing MCXBLA loves them.
Those were just examples. Obviously, you could make it digital scoreboards or adders or whatever, I just meant eventually, there MAY be a need for some narrowing of the scope to KEEP people interested.
Maybe YOU present a particular problem to be solved in the most creative/compact/ridiculously complicated way.
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Retired StaffI've already stated using others' designs for specific components in a complex system is fine, as long as you still know how it works. I.e. you shouldn't build a calculator if you don't know how adders work.
EDIT: Someone can get some bonus points though for using their own design. Especially if it's just as good, or better, than most designs.
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Retired StaffSince we can't share world files the best option is for me to join your world directly. I should be getting my gold account reactivated pretty soon, that's the only thing holding the contest back at the moment. If someone doesn't have gold, they can submit a video or screenshots. The main downfall to submitting photos is it's going to be a pain to explain how everything works, it's also more difficult to show components in great detail.
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Retired StaffO_O srsly? I must say, that is the craziest glitch I've ever heard of.
Good points. If a video is submitted, the HUD opacity must not be completely transparent. As for screenshots... well that's a toughy. Is it possible to screencap the crafting menu?
Yeah, I ended up finding out it's just an issue with forum rules. This thread was actually shut down for about an hour yesterday just for mentioning future prizes. I talked it out with the mod who deleted it and worked out a deal though, so it was resurrected and the mention of prizes in the OP was edited out.
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Retired StaffSomebody proposed something similar. I think it's a good idea, but it depends on how many entrants there are to determine if it would be practical. There's a lot of interest judging by this thread, but that doesn't necessarily mean there will be a lot of competitors. I think, at least for the first contest, it will just be a general redstone competition. All redstone creations are similar enough they can be grouped together. If this thing starts getting a rather large turnout in the future, I'll separate creations into categories judging by the principles they're based on. (Logic-based, piston-based, generic electric wiring, etc.)
Btw, I had you in mind for an additional judge if you're interested.
I was thinking more along the lines that most of us redstoners like to build multiple creations. With catagories even if there were few competitors there would be multiple entries from each person. A general competition only really allows for one creation from each competitor (their best work). I am just seeing it as:
general competition with 5 competitors = 5 entries to judge total
5 catagory competition with 5 competitors = up to 25 entries to judge total (possible 5 entries per catagory)
I was just thinking with catagories it would entice people to submit all or their creations instead of just their one best creation. lol I could be thinking about it the wrong way though. Just a suggestion.
As for wanting me to judge well... I wouldn't mind judging, although I am not quite up to par on all aspects of redstone. For example I've never decided to build a calculator or any 7 segment displays. I am capable of dissecting any creation and understanding how it works but I would be a little uneasy about judging something I have never got around to building myself.
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