no not at all the whole point in playing games is to have fun, if people derive their fun on their map by switching between two modes so what
You. Stop. The only reason we need against your flawed reasoning is that the game is not meant to be played that way or it would've been made available AGES ago. This is also why they're making it available just now through a function labeled as CHEATING on PC. No freaking **** the point of playing the game is to have fun, that's the point of EVERY GAME EVER, but EVERY GAME also happens to have a set of rules, rules which are put in place to keep the game fun. making the switch available would essentially be like adding a god mode cheat in any other game, and when said cheat is enabled, the game loses its entertainment value ridiculously fast and people will stop playing which happens to be the polar opposite of what 4J is probably aiming for.
Your stupid, unthought out, childish, invalid, flawed, fallacy-filled argument of "well you guys don't have to use that feature" is just plain ignorant. You haven't even listed a legitimate defense for it because there isn't one, you've only stated it over and over and over and over and attempted to explain it, even though we already understand it, through poor analogies. Well here is exactly why it's wrong, even though i already pretty much explained above: It is in human nature to do something as simply and quickly as possible, nobody thinks "well here's this short, easy way to do this, but here's this incredibly time-consuming way to do it and both accomplish the same exact same thing... Let's take the long way!!" Because of this, people will use the feature, a pretty good chunk of people too, and it'll make the game boring 50x faster than playing it normally which will make people stop playing (spoiler alert!: that's not what the devs want). The devs are fully aware of this; if they weren't it would've been put in the game LONG ago, shortly after creative was implemented, and it wouldn't be labeled as CHEATS when it was implemented.
You. Stop. The only reason we need against your flawed reasoning is that the game is not meant to be played that way or it would've been made available AGES ago. This is also why they're making it available just now through a function labeled as CHEATING on PC. No freaking **** the point of playing the game is to have fun, that's the point of EVERY GAME EVER, but EVERY GAME also happens to have a set of rules, rules which are put in place to keep the game fun. making the switch available would essentially be like adding a god mode cheat in any other game, and when said cheat is enabled, the game loses its entertainment value ridiculously fast and people will stop playing which happens to be the polar opposite of what 4J is probably aiming for.
Your stupid, unthought out, childish, invalid, flawed, fallacy-filled argument of "well you guys don't have to use that feature" is just plain dumb. You haven't even listed a legitimate defense for it because there isn't one, you've only stated it over and over and over and over and attempted to explain it, even though we already understand it, through poor analogies. Well here is exactly why it's wrong, even though i already pretty much explained above: It is in human nature to do something as simply and quickly as possible, nobody thinks "well here's this short, easy way to do this, but here's this incredibly time-consuming way to do it and both accomplish the same exact thing... Let's take the long way!!" Because of this, people will use the feature, a pretty good chunk of people too, and it'll make the game boring 50x faster than playing it normally which will make people stop playing (spoiler alert!: that's not what the devs want). The devs are fully aware of this; if they weren't it would've been put in the game LONG ago, shortly after creative was implemented, and it wouldn't be labeled as CHEATS when it was implemented.
So what is wrong with a cheat mode? Countless games have cheats. And your argument about losing entertainment value with cheats and god mode, my friends and my many hours wasted using cheats in GTA 4 would have to disagree with that. I have listed plenty of legitimate uses for it. And for me personally I would only use it for the reasons I listed above. You cannot argue against that. And since (I assume) you wouldn't use it anyway, your arguments have absolutely no impact on you in any way, unless you play on a server that would use it, in which case I am sure there would be plenty that don't.
Look at the pc. All those hunger games, spleef, puzzles, and custom maps wouldnt be in the game if that option to switch wasnt in their. Do those games make minecraft 100x more boring. Its your choice to do stuff like giving yourself diamonds and that stuff
4J has said they are looking into and thinking about having the ability to switch maps from Creative to Survival and vice versa.
That's all anyone knows.
You do get how that would be abused right? It would let people get whattever they wanted without having to work for it anymore. What would be the need to go chop down trees when you could just switch to creative, give yourself tons of wood, then switch back to survival?
If they do make it to where you can switch back and forth, there needs to be restrictions. You shouldn't be allowed to transfer resources when you switch between the two modes. You should only be allowed to build, then switch to survival with no resources just like you're playing normally.
I agree. It's completely unfair and it seems very cheap while others work hard to get there resources. I don't care how people play the game but why even bother playing MC and complain about not having Creative yet? Why not just play one of the shitty rip-offs where they already give you everything. I just don't get why people want to be lazy and have unlimited resources from the get go. Just play w/some Lego's or some **** if you can't work for it. Just my opinion but people need to chill out w/that ****. I don't want the MC that I fell in love with to be stripped away because some kids want to fly,build and have unlimited resources w/out lifting a ****ing finger . Speaking of I want hardcore mode but I doubt that will come because of all the posts of people complaining about a hunger bar,xp bar etc. Just shut the **** up and stop bitching you'll get Creative mode but don't ruin it for the rest of us
I agree. It's completely unfair and it seems very cheap while others work hard to get there resources. I don't care how people play the game but why even bother playing MC and complain about not having Creative yet? Why not just play one of the shitty rip-offs where they already give you everything. I just don't get why people want to be lazy and have unlimited resources from the get go. Just play w/some Lego's or some **** if you can't work for it. Just my opinion but people need to chill out w/that ****. I don't want the MC that I fell in love with to be stripped away because some kids want to fly,build and have unlimited resources w/out lifting a ****ing finger . Speaking of I want hardcore mode but I doubt that will come because of all the posts of people complaining about a hunger bar,xp bar etc. Just shut the **** up and stop bitching you'll get Creative mode but don't ruin it for the rest of us
If you truly don't care how others play the game, let server owners have their ability to switch if they need to. If it upsets you, don't do and don't play with people who do. No sense denying those who would properly use the feature the privilege.
If you truly don't care how others play the game, let server owners have their ability to switch if they need to. If it upsets you, don't do and don't play with people who do. No sense denying those who would properly use the feature the privilege.
No I'm not denying anyone anything and I don't care how people play the game I myself am worried that way too many people are complaining about the hunger bar,xpbar and other things that have to do w/MC. if people want to play Creative that's fine I just don't want to see the entirety of MC changed to Creative because a few kids wanna fly and have unlimited resources. That's what I'm worried about. Go back and look at earlier threads about MC and and how so many people want Creative mode and they don't want this or that. There's literally hundreds of threads on here like that and I don't want 4J to do something drastic like say completely change MC into a construction simulator where there are no mobs, no hunger bar,nothing can hurt you and you have every resource available w/out earning it plus the ability to fly. That's what worries me. If people want Creative that's fine I'm cool w/that but when I see numerous complaints about how they don't want this or that and how MC should be able to let us switch between Creative and SUrvival thats what pisses me off. if you like Creative good for you. Play it to your hearts content but don't try to complain about **** that I want in the game and ask for them to be taken out.
If 4J decided to remove elements such as the Hunger Bar, that would be a complete separation from what Minecraft truly is. I do not believe we have any reason to fear our survival elements being stolen from us.
If 4J decided to remove elements such as the Hunger Bar, that would be a complete separation from what Minecraft truly is. I do not believe we have any reason to fear our survival elements being stolen from us.
I seriously hope you're right Xavier because I'll be honest w/you....looking at past threads and topics it seems like the majority don't want it in the game and MC is a community driven game right? What if 4J decides to listen to the people against it and basically turns MC into a 16bit interactive lego game?
People will just need to adapt, much like people did when 1.8 came out on the PC. The hunger bar, new mobs and all these new features are now integral to the game. I believe that 4J knows that and will not disappoint, no matter how many newbs complain.
People will just need to adapt, much like people did when 1.8 came out on the PC. The hunger bar, new mobs and all these new features are now integral to the game. I believe that 4J knows that and will not disappoint, no matter how many newbs complain.
That's what i want 4J to do and I want to keep MC just like the PC but there are way too many people complaining and the fact that most Creative fans want to switch back and forth between Survival and Creative drives me crazy. I just want to know what the point? Like why even play?
As long as PC/Console games run off code and basically only understand 1's and 0's... there will always be variables... and there will always be rules.
You. Stop. The only reason we need against your flawed reasoning is that the game is not meant to be played that way or it would've been made available AGES ago.
SO in that case it isnt meant to be played with pistons, it isnnt meant to be played with jungle biomes or mushroom biomes or anything by that logic, they werent in "ages" ago either so thats a totally insane argument.
and all 'cheats' are in things like the PC version are, are options included in a different place by the designers after all.
My question is why do people care so much about what other people do in their worlds? Does it effect you personally? Does it change the fact that you will still enjoy mining and chopping and digging and smelting all your building materials to make your world? Minecraft to me is a game were the only limit is your imagination. It doesn't matter how you want to play just as long as your enjoy yourself. It's just silly. If they do add the feature...then don't use it. There I solved your problem. Though for the hunger bar issue if they made it a different setting (like hardcore mode in New Vegas) that would make everyone happy.
I like how so many people on here talk about the way the game is "meant to be played," like Minecraft isn't an open-world sandbox game of some sort.
every game has a way it's meant to be played, yes minecraft is a sandbox, do whatever you want game, but it has rules. in survival, you're not supposed to get all the resources you need in 2 minutes because that isn't how it's meant to be played, ithat's how creative is meant to be played
SO in that case it isnt meant to be played with pistons, it isnnt meant to be played with jungle biomes or mushroom biomes or anything by that logic, they werent in "ages" ago either so thats a totally insane argument.
you're taking one sentence of my entire argument and interpreting it out of context. You're like arguing with an overly-religious person, therefore, i am done here, we're not getting the ability to switch between the two any time soon IF we ever get it.
My question is why do people care so much about what other people do in their worlds? Does it effect you personally? Does it change the fact that you will still enjoy mining and chopping and digging and smelting all your building materials to make your world? Minecraft to me is a game were the only limit is your imagination. It doesn't matter how you want to play just as long as your enjoy yourself. It's just silly. If they do add the feature...then don't use it. There I solved your problem.
it's not, or shouldn't be, that WE care about how people play their game, but the developers. Adding the option to switch betwen the two modes in 1 game would be very similar to having 2 creative modes. People will get bored because they'll have everything they need at their finger tips, and you can be sure people will use it because simply because it's there and when they do, the purpose of survival is lost (reason why it's labled cheating on PC). Basically, the player is much more likely to get bored much faster with the game and stop playing.
also, keep in mind, this option on PC isn't even actually this option, this is just part of "allowing cheats." It unlocks single player commands.
it's not, or shouldn't be, that WE care about how people play their game, but the developers. Adding the option to switch betwen the two modes in 1 game would be very similar to having 2 creative modes. People will get bored because they'll have everything they need at their finger tips, and you can be sure people will use it because simply because it's there and when they do, the purpose of survival is lost (reason why it's labled "cheating" on PC), and the player is much more likely to get bored much faster with the game and stop playing.
So you are making assumptions about people getting bored. I guess you are right, I mean ever since the PC version has allowed cheats the player base has dropped of to next to nothing, hasn't it. I am sure the developers wouldn't really care that much if some people stopped playing anyway. They aren't charging for title updates, so they aren't losing money there, and they already have your money from when you bought the game.
You. Stop. The only reason we need against your flawed reasoning is that the game is not meant to be played that way or it would've been made available AGES ago. This is also why they're making it available just now through a function labeled as CHEATING on PC. No freaking **** the point of playing the game is to have fun, that's the point of EVERY GAME EVER, but EVERY GAME also happens to have a set of rules, rules which are put in place to keep the game fun. making the switch available would essentially be like adding a god mode cheat in any other game, and when said cheat is enabled, the game loses its entertainment value ridiculously fast and people will stop playing which happens to be the polar opposite of what 4J is probably aiming for.
Your stupid, unthought out, childish, invalid, flawed, fallacy-filled argument of "well you guys don't have to use that feature" is just plain ignorant. You haven't even listed a legitimate defense for it because there isn't one, you've only stated it over and over and over and over and attempted to explain it, even though we already understand it, through poor analogies. Well here is exactly why it's wrong, even though i already pretty much explained above: It is in human nature to do something as simply and quickly as possible, nobody thinks "well here's this short, easy way to do this, but here's this incredibly time-consuming way to do it and both accomplish the same exact same thing... Let's take the long way!!" Because of this, people will use the feature, a pretty good chunk of people too, and it'll make the game boring 50x faster than playing it normally which will make people stop playing (spoiler alert!: that's not what the devs want). The devs are fully aware of this; if they weren't it would've been put in the game LONG ago, shortly after creative was implemented, and it wouldn't be labeled as CHEATS when it was implemented.
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Retired StaffI agree. It's completely unfair and it seems very cheap while others work hard to get there resources. I don't care how people play the game but why even bother playing MC and complain about not having Creative yet? Why not just play one of the shitty rip-offs where they already give you everything. I just don't get why people want to be lazy and have unlimited resources from the get go. Just play w/some Lego's or some **** if you can't work for it. Just my opinion but people need to chill out w/that ****. I don't want the MC that I fell in love with to be stripped away because some kids want to fly,build and have unlimited resources w/out lifting a ****ing finger . Speaking of I want hardcore mode but I doubt that will come because of all the posts of people complaining about a hunger bar,xp bar etc. Just shut the **** up and stop bitching you'll get Creative mode but don't ruin it for the rest of us
i want it to make the enterprise with out it i cant do it
If you truly don't care how others play the game, let server owners have their ability to switch if they need to. If it upsets you, don't do and don't play with people who do. No sense denying those who would properly use the feature the privilege.
No I'm not denying anyone anything and I don't care how people play the game I myself am worried that way too many people are complaining about the hunger bar,xpbar and other things that have to do w/MC. if people want to play Creative that's fine I just don't want to see the entirety of MC changed to Creative because a few kids wanna fly and have unlimited resources. That's what I'm worried about. Go back and look at earlier threads about MC and and how so many people want Creative mode and they don't want this or that. There's literally hundreds of threads on here like that and I don't want 4J to do something drastic like say completely change MC into a construction simulator where there are no mobs, no hunger bar,nothing can hurt you and you have every resource available w/out earning it plus the ability to fly. That's what worries me. If people want Creative that's fine I'm cool w/that but when I see numerous complaints about how they don't want this or that and how MC should be able to let us switch between Creative and SUrvival thats what pisses me off. if you like Creative good for you. Play it to your hearts content but don't try to complain about **** that I want in the game and ask for them to be taken out.
I seriously hope you're right Xavier because I'll be honest w/you....looking at past threads and topics it seems like the majority don't want it in the game and MC is a community driven game right? What if 4J decides to listen to the people against it and basically turns MC into a 16bit interactive lego game?
That's what i want 4J to do and I want to keep MC just like the PC but there are way too many people complaining and the fact that most Creative fans want to switch back and forth between Survival and Creative drives me crazy. I just want to know what the point? Like why even play?
Herobrine exists because we let him exist.
As you so often do.
SO in that case it isnt meant to be played with pistons, it isnnt meant to be played with jungle biomes or mushroom biomes or anything by that logic, they werent in "ages" ago either so thats a totally insane argument.
and all 'cheats' are in things like the PC version are, are options included in a different place by the designers after all.
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every game has a way it's meant to be played, yes minecraft is a sandbox, do whatever you want game, but it has rules. in survival, you're not supposed to get all the resources you need in 2 minutes because that isn't how it's meant to be played, ithat's how creative is meant to be played
you're taking one sentence of my entire argument and interpreting it out of context. You're like arguing with an overly-religious person, therefore, i am done here, we're not getting the ability to switch between the two any time soon IF we ever get it.
it's not, or shouldn't be, that WE care about how people play their game, but the developers. Adding the option to switch betwen the two modes in 1 game would be very similar to having 2 creative modes. People will get bored because they'll have everything they need at their finger tips, and you can be sure people will use it because simply because it's there and when they do, the purpose of survival is lost (reason why it's labled cheating on PC). Basically, the player is much more likely to get bored much faster with the game and stop playing.
also, keep in mind, this option on PC isn't even actually this option, this is just part of "allowing cheats." It unlocks single player commands.
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