have you seen some of the places people have built on survival .. difference being that buildings in survival have purpose and would be used ..
creation is well you just create .. there are differences.. but each to their own.. i look forward to survival personally. i'm not gonna frown on people who use creative mode it's part of the game and we have seen some stunning creations so far ..
Exactly my point, there is a difference like you say. However, some want to argue survival and creation are equal or the same.
I want to know who put you in charge of setting these "guidelines". I will argue that I can be creative in Survival due to the fact that you sit there and tell me that it is impossible. What is there possibly that can put a halt to my creativity? I also want to know about "gravity" you speak of in Minecraft, because last I checked, gravity wasn't a binding law, especially if I can punch a tree at the base, and the rest still stands when I collect it.
The restrictions and guidelines are determined by the developers. Gravity has an effect on the character, sand, gravel, other items, and mobs. There is a certain type of gravity in minecraft... you can't argue that there isn't.
(you opened this flood gate) This here is completely opinion. By this simple paragraph, you have just limited how people should "paint". Art is a form of expression, if people want to stand on there head and paint doesn't mean they are obstructing their selves. It just means they are challenging themselves. There is nothing "practical" about being creative...if that's the case, then a lot of art styles and types would be "wrong". You wouldn't have pointlisim, cubisim, pop-art, impressionism, expressionism, and so forth! All paintings would be the same, there would be nothing abstract, would all be straight forward when viewing art itself. The question here isn't "so why obstruct yourself?" the true question is "why not?"
The same reason an artist wouldn't deliberately cut off their hands and try to paint.
What of your friend dumped lava on you? What if you spawned underwater? What if Herobrine raped you and decapitated you? Not much of a good job surviving right?
My argument didn't mention multiplayer. Also, Herobrine? Really? Where?
This thread is not about duping. I explain my opinion about survival vs. creative all throughout the thread. Minecraft as it stands right now on 360 has an overrated survival mode. What is so juvenile about that? As long as you are willing to intelligently discuss the difference between survival and creativity, you should have no problem with this thread. Maybe you don't feel like thinking about the game in detail or how you choose to play. So don't post. You just end up flaming or trolling.
For you I'll explain slower. Creativity is SUBJECTIVE! Every post you have made in your thread has been to bash survival or to argue a nonsensical point about what is creative. You can't judge what is creative for it is subjective and different for each person. To say survival is overrated is fine that's your judgement but to say those who play it aren't inspired is childish. I would also point out that it is about duping since the only way you can have a creative mode on 360 at this time is by duping. Unless your talking about peaceful mode and if you are than you should say peaceful mode vs survival not creative vs survival. What makes peaceful mode no monsters. What makes creative mode unlimited resources and no monsters.
I'm so glad you weren't a minecraft player without an imagination 2 years ago when they put minecraft survival in there or else you would've killed it a couple years ago.
For you I'll explain slower. Creativity is SUBJECTIVE! Every post you have made in your thread has been to bash survival or to argue a nonsensical point about what is creative. You can't judge what is creative for it is subjective and different for each person. To say survival is overrated is fine that's your judgement but to say those who play it aren't inspired is childish. I would also point out that it is about duping since the only way you can have a creative mode on 360 at this time is by duping. Unless your talking about peaceful mode and if you are than you should say peaceful mode vs survival not creative vs survival. What makes peaceful mode no monsters. What makes creative mode unlimited resources and no monsters.
Things created in Minecraft are only subjective to the ones that create it. To everyone else, they are seen objectively
This entire thread is nothing but opinion. That makes this petty arguing completely pointless.
Stating that this thread is filled with petty arguing is merely your opinion. That would be to say that every opinion here is petty as well and has no merit. I believe judging others and flat our bashing their attempt act explaining their opinion doesn't bode well for your cause, sir. I would really like to know why you might think survival in Minecraft is so special. Glad you could add to the discussion.
No. That is incorrect. I am stating that I feel it is overrated as a lot of people feel they have something to brag about when "surviving". I state my opinion as many have stated their opinion about creative mode.
I read the majority of the thread, you've said basically nothing of any value, you prefer creative... You make a lot of long winded points trying to belittle people who play differently to you. How does other people liking survival infringe on your enjoyment of the game? Honestly, this whole thread is redundant.
I think you have read most of these comments with an angry tone in mind. I am not trying to "belittle" anyone's opinion... but merely challenging the definition of survival in Minecraft due to the fact that a lot of people say that creative mode cheapens the game.
I suggest you go read your own thread, the whole first page is you calling survivalists unimaginative, hole digging dribblers...
I did, and I have edited my OP quite a bit. I believe to simply succeed in surviving in minecraft you have a few options.
1.Dig a hole and cover up.
2.Sleep in a bed. (to avoid the night terrors)
3.Turn on peaceful mode.
4.Don't jump off cliffs or fall in lava. (number 1 can take care of this.)
The same reason an artist wouldn't deliberately cut off their hands and try to paint.
You're talking about an entirely different thing now. You went from one extreme suggestion to the next with not relation between the two. That's common sense about chopping hands off. This is also irrelevant to what I replied with.
To humor you though...i suggest taking a look at these:
Doug Landis
Doug has no hands, so he draws with a pencil held in his teeth. One picture takes Doug anywhere from 40 to 400 hours, depending on the amount of detail and size of the picture. Doug says that all the images for his paintings come to him out of his head. At night, when he can not sleep, he “draws” the imaging in his mind with his hands, which in reality he does not have.
The restrictions and guidelines are determined by the developers. Gravity has an effect on the character, sand, gravel, other items, and mobs. There is a certain type of gravity in minecraft... you can't argue that there isn't.
The guidelines you feel that are imposed are your misinterpretation of what the use of the word "Survival" in the game style. No where does 4J or Mojang say that we can not be creative in Survival, nor have they told us that the only way to play the game is to live in a hole.
The discussion fails when people choose to detract from the subject at hand and bring up irrelevant nonsense. Again, I haven't said anything about flying or being invincible or glitches... etc. And to me it seems you are willing to bash the functions of creative mode.
I'm arguing about about how you use the word gravity in this response. You switch back from real life to minecraft issues with a blink of an eye and no clear line is pointed out when you start to discuss either. For the most part, gravity...or should I say physics do not apply for the most part in minecraft. Water should always flow out and down, but it shouldn't infinitely flow either. If you build up three blocks with dirt, and knock out the bottom two, dirt shouldn't "magically" float there forever. The only actual physically correct use of gravity comes from the player, mobs, sand, and gravel. (i forgot mine carts and boats as well)
Since you're going to bring up gravity of our characters, that brings us back to the point in creative where you can fly, which means our characters lose the binding to gravity. You know...since gravity, in your words, is an imposed guideline in survival.
Which now, since you brought it up, does that now mean that in order to be creative, we have to be allowed to fly/move freely in our worlds? Again...this isn't a limit, this is a convenience.
using "complicated" words doesn't make you look smart, it makes you look like someone who wants to look smart and learned these words yesterday and hopes that people don't understand them because you didn't before yesterday.
I have nothing to say on the topic at hand, but rather, the quote above caught my attention. "Complicated" words are there to be used. I get accused of this sometimes. I take an interest in words, and the flavor they add. I use BIG words. Just because a person uses lesser known words, is no reason to accuse someone of trying to impress with their vocab. No biggie, Just caught my eye.
Since you're going to bring up gravity of our characters, that brings us back to the point in creative where you can fly, which means our characters lose the binding to gravity. You know...since gravity, in your words, is an imposed guideline in survival.
The only reason I brought up gravity is because I was pointing out the fact that there are rules and laws in survival which I refer to as guidelines or boundaries that were put in place by the developers for this mode in order to restrict the player of total 100% freedom and holding the player back from being fully creative. Why would it even be called creative mode if it didn't mean just that?
The bigger reason of this thread was to point out how simple the act of survival in minecraft is and how it is overblown by many as a great feat. I find being creative is a bigger feat than simply surviving.
using "complicated" words doesn't make you look smart, it makes you look like someone who wants to look smart and learned these words yesterday and hopes that people don't understand them because you didn't before yesterday.
I can't help it if we don't share the same vocabulary. I'm not here to teach you.
we all have our own opinions why dont we all have a big game of minecraft and get on with life i mean minecraft is the whole point of this argument why dont we just stop taking all damn day arguing and play the damn thing
Your goal is not simply to survive, but to thrive. I can't even believe someone posted something like this...
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Take a mansion that looks amazing. Now WorldEdit it into diamond blocks. It looks horrible now, yet some people still say it's amazing. I don't get it.
Try to read the entire discussion throughout his thread before placing quick judgment on others.
Exactly my point, there is a difference like you say. However, some want to argue survival and creation are equal or the same.
The restrictions and guidelines are determined by the developers. Gravity has an effect on the character, sand, gravel, other items, and mobs. There is a certain type of gravity in minecraft... you can't argue that there isn't.
Herobrine exists because we let him exist.
Herobrine exists because we let him exist.
Herobrine exists because we let him exist.
For you I'll explain slower. Creativity is SUBJECTIVE! Every post you have made in your thread has been to bash survival or to argue a nonsensical point about what is creative. You can't judge what is creative for it is subjective and different for each person. To say survival is overrated is fine that's your judgement but to say those who play it aren't inspired is childish. I would also point out that it is about duping since the only way you can have a creative mode on 360 at this time is by duping. Unless your talking about peaceful mode and if you are than you should say peaceful mode vs survival not creative vs survival. What makes peaceful mode no monsters. What makes creative mode unlimited resources and no monsters.
Herobrine exists because we let him exist.
Herobrine exists because we let him exist.
I think you have read most of these comments with an angry tone in mind. I am not trying to "belittle" anyone's opinion... but merely challenging the definition of survival in Minecraft due to the fact that a lot of people say that creative mode cheapens the game.
Herobrine exists because we let him exist.
1.Dig a hole and cover up.
2.Sleep in a bed. (to avoid the night terrors)
3.Turn on peaceful mode.
4.Don't jump off cliffs or fall in lava. (number 1 can take care of this.)
Simple enough.
Herobrine exists because we let him exist.
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Forum AdminTo humor you though...i suggest taking a look at these:
Doug has no hands, so he draws with a pencil held in his teeth. One picture takes Doug anywhere from 40 to 400 hours, depending on the amount of detail and size of the picture. Doug says that all the images for his paintings come to him out of his head. At night, when he can not sleep, he “draws” the imaging in his mind with his hands, which in reality he does not have.
The guidelines you feel that are imposed are your misinterpretation of what the use of the word "Survival" in the game style. No where does 4J or Mojang say that we can not be creative in Survival, nor have they told us that the only way to play the game is to live in a hole.
Here are your direct words from earlier:
I'm arguing about about how you use the word gravity in this response. You switch back from real life to minecraft issues with a blink of an eye and no clear line is pointed out when you start to discuss either. For the most part, gravity...or should I say physics do not apply for the most part in minecraft. Water should always flow out and down, but it shouldn't infinitely flow either. If you build up three blocks with dirt, and knock out the bottom two, dirt shouldn't "magically" float there forever. The only actual physically correct use of gravity comes from the player, mobs, sand, and gravel. (i forgot mine carts and boats as well)
Since you're going to bring up gravity of our characters, that brings us back to the point in creative where you can fly, which means our characters lose the binding to gravity. You know...since gravity, in your words, is an imposed guideline in survival.
Which now, since you brought it up, does that now mean that in order to be creative, we have to be allowed to fly/move freely in our worlds? Again...this isn't a limit, this is a convenience.
I have nothing to say on the topic at hand, but rather, the quote above caught my attention. "Complicated" words are there to be used. I get accused of this sometimes. I take an interest in words, and the flavor they add. I use BIG words. Just because a person uses lesser known words, is no reason to accuse someone of trying to impress with their vocab. No biggie, Just caught my eye.
The bigger reason of this thread was to point out how simple the act of survival in minecraft is and how it is overblown by many as a great feat. I find being creative is a bigger feat than simply surviving.
I can't help it if we don't share the same vocabulary. I'm not here to teach you.
The only trolls here are the ones detracting from the topic at hand. Something it appears you have no trouble doing.Never said that. Just find it overrated. I will still play it and enjoy it.
Herobrine exists because we let him exist.