Yeah but plasma Tv. Have a heavy risk of burn in if you play more than 1h of anything. I have seen scores for football games burnt into plasma tvs. It would be like if you bought a car with 4 wheels and said why do I need mister dealer I never have a flat. Then 220 miles later you run over a nail and the blame the dealer because you do not have a spare tire.
Plasma is great but not for games with static huds. You know turn down your gamma till patch 1.0.0 if your. Really worried about it.
this is such a simple fix that can be intergrated, thus avoiding having to buy a new tv. you would not buy a new tv for 1 single game.
so shh.
You shouldn't buy a TV known for screen burn for gaming either. I don't see why you idiots complain about this ****...I mean seriously, if a company needs to implement a feature to fix your shitty "gaming" TV problems then obviously they aren't the ones at fault. Do you know why they are designing it for other TV's? Because the technology is more suitable for it. Why would they go out of their way and slow development on more important things to add something that "helps" the plasma TV owners. Maybe they'll lose some profit but hey what do they care? They already know they are practically on top. I can't have any sympathy for people who'd buy a TV that can burn images onto itself if its stationary for too long
Lol, the burn in would seem to disagree! But seriously I just recently did some shopping around on TVs and I noticed most big boxstores (Fred Meyer, Walmart, Best Buy) were discounting plasmas. There are some great prices in the 55-65 inch range out there. However, combined with the lack of selection offered it would seem plasma is on it's way out and probably for good reason.
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We have added in a few features to the Bug fix Title Update
Added an Interface Opacity slider in the settings for plasma screen users.
Added an option in the settings menu to enable/disable tooltips
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Plasma is terrible for gaming. Always has been. Any kind of internet research will tell you that. Getting eggy at the only people on here who are trying to give you some advice won't change it. It isn't my TV that will suffer from burn in, afterall, it's yours. I took my own time to post in your thread and educate you, and educate others about the risks of gaming and Plasma TV's, but if you wanna ignore that, your choice. I never even said I was against 4J adding in features that catered to plasma users, but you can not expect all the resonsibilty to be down to them to fix something like this when people themselves must understand the risks when gaming on one.
I really do appreciate your effort in trying to "educate" me on the risk of plasma burn ins, but didnt i make it clear in in my first post that im WELL AWARE of the risk of burn in? Hence why i came on these forums to drop a suggetion that could help out every plasma owner. That in itselft is taking responsibility, so please save me the lecture, ok?
Mind you, any kind of internet research will also tell you that actual "plasma burn in" is a rare occurance with modern plasmas, and should not be confused with image ghosting. Many plasmas have anti burn in technology like pixel shifting and what not. So there perfectly fine to game on, and to this day ive not had any issue with burn in, im just taking precaution!
Believe me when i say no ones getting eggy here except the arrogant people that say "go buy a new tv" or "you should of known that plasmas are terrible for gaming" Its completley counter productive to the cause of this thread.
I am pretty sure...sub par qaulity of the picture you get from them
your right! larger viewing angles, wider color gamut, superior black levels, and better contrast ratio's are subpar!... you have no idea what your talking about. Im pretty sure you should do yourself a huge favor and at least do some research before you start spewing random imaginary knowledge that you dug up from the back of your head.
You simply dont see as many plasma's anymore because their becoming too expensive to make, completley different tech beheind a plasma when compared to lcd and led.
Go into any major TV sales room and they will tell you not to buy a plasma if your going to be playing games on it infact buying a new tv today everyone there instantly said stay away from plasma screens.
I am pretty sure there slowly removing them from sale due to the low demand for them and sub par qaulity of the picture you get from them
That's just plain wrong, the picture on plasma TVs will be much better compared to a LCD of the same size and cost. The thing is you have to be in a somewhat dark room to take advantage of it. Stores are really brightly lit and LCDs will always look better there. Bottom line is if you are going to be mostly watching in the dark then plasma is better, if it is going to be in the light then LCD will be better.
The microsoft HDMI cables are like 20$ lol, even though theres no difference between them. What a ripoff, i cant imagine anyone being fooled into buying them.
Not entirely accurate. I have a 50" plasma and play a lot of games, never had an issue with ghosting. Plasma's used to be really bad for it, that's for sure, but nowaday's not so much. Of course the lower the cost the older the components used (to keep said cost down). They aren't all created equal.
Mind you I do own a high end plasma which could account for my situation. I have a Pioneer Elite which was not cheap.
Thanks for your productive response! Im not sure if you know anything on this topic, but both plasma's and LCD's have incredibly high refresh rates, making them both ideal choices for gaming So you must have absolutly no idea what your talking about.
Sorry man but high refresh rates doesn't mean **** when you have a Plasma.
All phosphor based display systems such as CRT's and rear view Plasma are susceptible to image retention. (Ghosting/screen burn-in) This is due to physical properties phosphor and how it reacts to light and electric impulses.
The only LCD's you will see that have burn in's are the first generation models as they were rear projected. My LED-LCD doesn'thave burn it once so ever and it has a 2ms response rate which is fast for an LCD tv.
So no. It doesn't matter that your plasma tv has a high refresh rate because it's a phosphorus based TV. So no, Plasma tv's are NOT ideal for gaming. If they were then more people would be using them but they aren't.
Sorry man but high refresh rates doesn't mean **** when you have a Plasma.
All phosphor based display systems such as CRT's and rear view Plasma are susceptible to image retention. (Ghosting/screen burn-in) This is due to physical properties phosphor and how it reacts to light and electric impulses.
The only LCD's you will see that have burn in's are the first generation models as they were rear projected. My LED-LCD doesn'thave burn it once so ever and it has a 2ms response rate which is fast for an LCD tv.
So no. It doesn't matter that your plasma tv has a high refresh rate because it's a phosphorus based TV. So no, Plasma tv's are NOT ideal for gaming. If they were then more people would be using them but they aren't.
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Pixel shift, pixel rotate, these features make burn in a rare occurance. Ive not had any burn in with my plasma, despite playing tons of games. People only seem to remember how plasma's were back when they launched years ago..
Not entirely accurate. I have a 50" plasma and play a lot of games, never had an issue with ghosting. Plasma's used to be really bad for it, that's for sure, but nowaday's not so much. Of course the lower the cost the older the components used (to keep said cost down). They aren't all created equal.
Mind you I do own a high end plasma which could account for my situation. I have a Pioneer Elite which was not cheap.
And you don't even really need to worry about it with the cheapest plasmas any more, mine is a few years old and was just an average one and it has no problems with 8 hour Minecraft sessions. Burn-in is a non-issue, has been for a while, but it was so prevalent in people's minds with the first plasmas that those not really knowing about TVs will just repeat it over and over.
Also people are confusing ghosting with burn-in, ghosting is temporary and burn-in is permanent. Ghosting does happen with Minecraft for me but after 10 minutes of watching something else it is gone.
No need to get angry, you obviosly dont have a plasma TV so it doesnt concern you,and If you did you'd probobly notice this issue and it would bug you, hence why it may be comming up on the forums so often. So take a deep breath and relax! It has nothing to do with the TV being bad, or old or whatever you may think. The health and items do infact ghost onto the screen after many hours of play despite the inventory menu popping up for a few brief seconds every now and then, so please get off my ass for trying to suggest a fix to something that apparantly concerns many people.
You said that know one ever explains why these things happen. The fact is that it does happen,and if you want to know why then google it.
I'm just saying. I have had many family/friends who have plasma TVs and have never had burn in/ghost images on their screen no matter what they do. Not saying they've played Minecraft but I'm sure they have been in those situations where a ghost/burn in could be possible. It just seems like if the problem is there, its most likely the quality of the TV. It may not be, I'm not a huge TV geek, but thats just the way it seems. If its a Vizio then theres your problem. Vizios at least from what I've seen are known for leaving ghost images on some of the more expensive TVs actually which is weird but whatever.
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I play on a plasma, (mind you what i'm about to say is simply my experience, i'm not throwing blame at anyone or complaining) and i've never had any sort of screen retention/burn-in issues with anything until now, with minecraft. I'm afraid I do have some burn-in already but it's not anything too terribly bad, you only really notice it when there's something plain white over where the HUD usually is, but i've been limiting my time playing minecraft because i don't want it to get any worse. I'm glad to see 4J got on it.
Any static image will burn into the older plasma tv's if it's displayed for hours at a time.
This applies to any color, but white is the worse, black the least.
Simply don't play so long at one time (change the display)- play another game or watch regular tv once in a while.
Just did a search for this topic after noticing some ghosting on my screen. Thanks 4J for listening to concerns and implementing a fix.
I'm sad to say I read through this entire thread though. Where are you non-plasma owners getting your information from? Amazon reviews? Try reading the AVS forums.
LCD and plasma both have some advantages for gaming/tv viewing, that's why one of them hasn't disappeared.
There's plenty of reasons to buy a plasma for gaming, here's mine:
Burn in occurred on some of the earliest plasmas. Now plasmas only get image retention, which isn't permanent, just annoying.
Plasma has the deepest black levels.
Plasma has a native 600hz refresh rate. This is a big benefit for fast motion (ie quick camera panning) and was the ultimate deciding factor for me.
You can look up LCD advantages for yourself, but these factors contributed to my tv buying decision. Acting like LCD is better because that is what you have is foolish.
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Plasma is great but not for games with static huds. You know turn down your gamma till patch 1.0.0 if your. Really worried about it.
You shouldn't buy a TV known for screen burn for gaming either. I don't see why you idiots complain about this ****...I mean seriously, if a company needs to implement a feature to fix your shitty "gaming" TV problems then obviously they aren't the ones at fault. Do you know why they are designing it for other TV's? Because the technology is more suitable for it. Why would they go out of their way and slow development on more important things to add something that "helps" the plasma TV owners. Maybe they'll lose some profit but hey what do they care? They already know they are practically on top. I can't have any sympathy for people who'd buy a TV that can burn images onto itself if its stationary for too long
Lol, the burn in would seem to disagree! But seriously I just recently did some shopping around on TVs and I noticed most big boxstores (Fred Meyer, Walmart, Best Buy) were discounting plasmas. There are some great prices in the 55-65 inch range out there. However, combined with the lack of selection offered it would seem plasma is on it's way out and probably for good reason.
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I really do appreciate your effort in trying to "educate" me on the risk of plasma burn ins, but didnt i make it clear in in my first post that im WELL AWARE of the risk of burn in? Hence why i came on these forums to drop a suggetion that could help out every plasma owner. That in itselft is taking responsibility, so please save me the lecture, ok?
Mind you, any kind of internet research will also tell you that actual "plasma burn in" is a rare occurance with modern plasmas, and should not be confused with image ghosting. Many plasmas have anti burn in technology like pixel shifting and what not. So there perfectly fine to game on, and to this day ive not had any issue with burn in, im just taking precaution!
Believe me when i say no ones getting eggy here except the arrogant people that say "go buy a new tv" or "you should of known that plasmas are terrible for gaming" Its completley counter productive to the cause of this thread.
Thanks again 4J, its really great to see this issue has been given some attention.
your right! larger viewing angles, wider color gamut, superior black levels, and better contrast ratio's are subpar!... you have no idea what your talking about. Im pretty sure you should do yourself a huge favor and at least do some research before you start spewing random imaginary knowledge that you dug up from the back of your head.
You simply dont see as many plasma's anymore because their becoming too expensive to make, completley different tech beheind a plasma when compared to lcd and led.
That's just plain wrong, the picture on plasma TVs will be much better compared to a LCD of the same size and cost. The thing is you have to be in a somewhat dark room to take advantage of it. Stores are really brightly lit and LCDs will always look better there. Bottom line is if you are going to be mostly watching in the dark then plasma is better, if it is going to be in the light then LCD will be better.
well im going to get 3D tv and open 3D minecraft take the goggles on and play minecraaaaaaaaaaaft in 3...DDDD!
The microsoft HDMI cables are like 20$ lol, even though theres no difference between them. What a ripoff, i cant imagine anyone being fooled into buying them.
Not entirely accurate. I have a 50" plasma and play a lot of games, never had an issue with ghosting. Plasma's used to be really bad for it, that's for sure, but nowaday's not so much. Of course the lower the cost the older the components used (to keep said cost down). They aren't all created equal.
Mind you I do own a high end plasma which could account for my situation. I have a Pioneer Elite which was not cheap.
Sorry man but high refresh rates doesn't mean **** when you have a Plasma.
All phosphor based display systems such as CRT's and rear view Plasma are susceptible to image retention. (Ghosting/screen burn-in) This is due to physical properties phosphor and how it reacts to light and electric impulses.
The only LCD's you will see that have burn in's are the first generation models as they were rear projected. My LED-LCD doesn'thave burn it once so ever and it has a 2ms response rate which is fast for an LCD tv.
So no. It doesn't matter that your plasma tv has a high refresh rate because it's a phosphorus based TV. So no, Plasma tv's are NOT ideal for gaming. If they were then more people would be using them but they aren't.
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Pixel shift, pixel rotate, these features make burn in a rare occurance. Ive not had any burn in with my plasma, despite playing tons of games. People only seem to remember how plasma's were back when they launched years ago..
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hit the nail on the head with this
Also people are confusing ghosting with burn-in, ghosting is temporary and burn-in is permanent. Ghosting does happen with Minecraft for me but after 10 minutes of watching something else it is gone.
I'm just saying. I have had many family/friends who have plasma TVs and have never had burn in/ghost images on their screen no matter what they do. Not saying they've played Minecraft but I'm sure they have been in those situations where a ghost/burn in could be possible. It just seems like if the problem is there, its most likely the quality of the TV. It may not be, I'm not a huge TV geek, but thats just the way it seems. If its a Vizio then theres your problem. Vizios at least from what I've seen are known for leaving ghost images on some of the more expensive TVs actually which is weird but whatever.
This applies to any color, but white is the worse, black the least.
Simply don't play so long at one time (change the display)- play another game or watch regular tv once in a while.
I'm sad to say I read through this entire thread though. Where are you non-plasma owners getting your information from? Amazon reviews? Try reading the AVS forums.
LCD and plasma both have some advantages for gaming/tv viewing, that's why one of them hasn't disappeared.
There's plenty of reasons to buy a plasma for gaming, here's mine:
Burn in occurred on some of the earliest plasmas. Now plasmas only get image retention, which isn't permanent, just annoying.
Plasma has the deepest black levels.
Plasma has a native 600hz refresh rate. This is a big benefit for fast motion (ie quick camera panning) and was the ultimate deciding factor for me.
You can look up LCD advantages for yourself, but these factors contributed to my tv buying decision. Acting like LCD is better because that is what you have is foolish.