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Working on the snapshots for two packs at once:

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I was directed here and just have a quick question as I'm a little bit confused by the op:

Am I allowed to post stuff here for feedback without being a member of the union?

Welcome! I'm the guy that directed you here.

There is no more "union".
Ignore the post at the beginning of the thread. That was a long time ago, and this is more a casual texture artist hang-out.

If you are a minecraft texture artist, you can post here.

Posts with specific questions tend to get more replies.

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ACTUALLY
I am going to try this donation system https://ko-fi.com/
Microtransactions are all the rage and free-to-play games thrive on them. So maybe occasionally someone will feel like sending you a $3 tip.

AndI should definitely update on Curse and advertise more often. My pack is clearly more visible via PMC tho, and it's easier to use.

Oh, that's a neat idea. I think I'll definitely add that to my posts and see where it goes. Especially since I'm trying to get into the swing of updating a lot again.

I almost never update my Curse page. I go there, put the new downloads in, and scram. Then I post an update log on PMC and update my thread here, and between them get a few hundred downloads a week. I also was just recently pointed to http://www.votable.com/minecraft which is kind of like Reddit, but kind of not. I don't expect to see too much traffic from there, since it's a few years old now and still pretty slow. I'll probably update a few times, and forget it exists.

I've been given permission to continue Good Morning Craft, so guess what I've been doing all day today?

Prismarine blocks, sea lantern, and purpur. Not pictured: the 20 other blocks I did today. There are still a few more to go to get it updated to 1.9, and then comes the task of updating all the items. I didn't realise how far behind this pack had fallen until taking a look inside it.

This is gonna be a big challenge, to do a pack on 16x, while matching someone else's style. There are a few things I'm definitely going to be changing, now that I'm feeling a little more comfortable with it. But Sassgaard draws a lot of inspiration from this pack, so it's turning out to be not as tricky as I'd expected.

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I finally got it managed to make custom models work properly. It's actually harder than I expected... to think about a fitting texture that tiles well with other blocks. But it's fun tho.

Now there is nothing to stop me from texturing all stairs, fences and everything else that might come. >:}

Why they didn't just wholesale adopt the MCPatcher way of doing it, I'll never know. Every now and then, I get people complaining that my stairs don't randomise the way my bricks and cobble do. But each face would require something like 40 extra files, and nope. That's way too many files for a pack that already has problems running on slower machines.

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I've been given permission to continue Good Morning Craft,

Congradulations, that pack is a big deal!

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Every now and then, I get people complaining that my stairs don't randomise the way my bricks and cobble do. But each face would require something like 40 extra files, and nope. That's way too many files for a pack that already has problems running on slower machines.

I'm trying to imagine how you would need 40 files per face to apply 10 to 20 random textures, and I can't come close. Whatever you have in mind doesn't seem to be a very efficient method. Also additional .JSON files have a very minimal impact on the game speed in my experience. I don't see why you can't just reuse the existing textures for stairs.

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Congradulations, that pack is a big deal!



I'm trying to imagine how you would need 40 files per face to apply 10 to 20 random textures, and I can't come close. Whatever you have in mind doesn't seem to be a very efficient method. Also additional .JSON files have a very minimal impact on the game speed in my experience. I don't see why you can't just reuse the existing textures for stairs.

It's early, and I think I misspoke. I think it was 40 for each block, which is still a lot. Because the front, top, back, and sides all used different models (or did when I last tooked at it and noped out), so having the extra textures was going to be way too much work for something most people probably won't even notice.

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It's early, and I think I misspoke. I think it was 40 for each block, which is still a lot. Because the front, top, back, and sides all used different models (or did when I last tooked at it and noped out)

No, there are three models for a stair of any given material. One for a straight back, one for curving in, and one for curving out. They are rotated a lot-- those 3 models rotated in all the ways get 40 entries in the blockstate file, but they are all referenceing the same 3 models.

For the stairs that i've given alternates, I have 3 variants, so that means there's 9 model files, and 120 "model" entries in the blockstate file. But no additional textures-- which works with my pack, and should work for yours.

There's a bit of tedious copy/pasting and find/replacing, but I use an editor that can find/replace multiple files at once. There's no measurable hit to file-size or FPS.

And I'd note that for most textures types you rapidly hit diminishing returns for additional alternate textures. Three would be a lot better than none, and 10 only somewhat better than 3.

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No, there are three models for a stair of any given material. One for a straight back, one for curving in, and one for curving out. They are rotated a lot-- those 3 models rotated in all the ways get 40 entries in the blockstate file, but they are all referenceing the same 3 models.

For the stairs that i've given alternates, I have 3 variants, so that means there's 9 model files, and 120 "model" entries in the blockstate file. But no additional textures-- which works with my pack, and should work for yours.

There's a bit of tedious copy/pasting and find/replacing, but I use an editor that can find/replace multiple files at once. There's no measurable hit to file-size or FPS.

And I'd note that for most textures types you rapidly hit diminishing returns for additional alternate textures. Three would be a lot better than none, and 10 only somewhat better than 3.

Oh, maybe I will look back into it again. It does sound a bit different than it was before, but it's still something I'm probably going to put off until I've done everything else I want to do.